VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1961

Matt from TN · 10-11-2005, 10:40 AM

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results,
1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results,
1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results,
1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results,
1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash)

No players were elected to the RL HOF by the BBWAA in 1961, but Max Carey and Billy Hamilton were elected by the VC.

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1961 (retired after 1955 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max.

PLEASE NOTE:
Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII

Note: OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras.

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

189 - Woody Woodson
166 - Dark Horse Allen
163 - Jason Tedford
159 - Whitey Kohse
158 - Oscar Vancini
152 - Jed Burke
152 - Patrick Seifried
149 - Genaro Nunez
148 - Whiskey Allen
145 - Blake Crocitto
141 - Ben Baum
141 - Tee Carver
140 - Bud Breckenridge
140 - John Falise
140 - Ray Brown
140 - Scott Podlasek
140 - Dale Lamberty
140 - Bobby Martin
138 - Tyrell Chestnut
137 - Kid Fite
137 - Will Miller
137 - Steven Bussell
136 - Harry Cohan
136 - Jared Jarry
135 - John Klehammer
135 - Jimmy Ditty
134 - Carl Kahle
133 - Slap Hertzog
133 - Flaky Arsenault
133 - Roy Hobbs
133 - Dave Arkless
132 - Adolf Greisbach
132 - John Schmieder
130 - Sunny Davie
129 - Tom Turley
129 - George Ward
129 - Ping Hung
129 - Herman Dunkel
127 - Campbell Ditty
126 - Bull Zegri
124 - Levi Walls
123 - Dale Reneau
123 - Alan Liao
122 - Sam Kass
122 - Sal Rossi
121 - Quenton Misisca
120 - Ervin Skjerly
118 - Gus Kahle
110 - David McAuliffe

Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 557
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 1962
R: 2004
SB: 1297

Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS
OPS+: 114
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 4
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 1
Career Top 25: Runs (23), Hits (23)

Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS
OPS+: 127
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: 2B (6), HR (6), RBI (14), BB (15)

Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44
1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS
OPS+: 102
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 10
Pennants: 7
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2
Career Top 25: SB (14)

Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 57
2510 H, 541 2B, 68 HR, 888 RBI, 1352 R, 648 K, 514 BB, 657 SB, .318 AVG, .816 OPS
WWII
OPS+: 120
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1928
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 2
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1, Runs 3
Career Top 25: 2B (14), SB (12)

Ted Stuart, SS, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 31
1800 H, 258 2B, 45 HR, 757 RBI, 797 R, 631 K, 547 BB, 31 SB, .296 AVG, .749 OPS
OPS+: 110
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 9
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE

Dewey Mickelsen, LF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50
2560 H, 329 2B, 335 HR, 1322 RBI, 1431 R, 589 K, 1138 BB, 17 SB, .294 AVG, .857 OPS
OPS+: 139
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: HR (6)

Al Arsenault, LF, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 47
2359 H, 557 2B, 285 HR, 1458 RBI, 1341 R, 414 K, 941 BB, 129 SB, .287 AVG, .854 OPS
OPS+: 135
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 2, 3B 1, RBI 1
Career Top 25: HR (16), RBI (22), 2B (10)

Maurice Misisca, 3B, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 34
1657 H, 214 2B, 233 HR, 944 RBI, 849 R, 453 K, 674 BB, 68 SB, .291 AVG, .835 OPS
OPS+: 137
BOY Award: 1943, 1944, 1946
ROY Award: 1931
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 2, SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 2, RBI 1
Career Top 25: NONE

Jonny Perly, 2B/SS, Last Season: 1954, HOF Standard: 48
2336 H, 339 2B, 123 HR, 946 RBI, 1622 R, 1098 K, 1324 BB, 1297 SB, .268 AVG, .760 OPS
OPS+: 114
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 3
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 1, Runs 3, BB 1, SB 13
Career Top 25: Runs (19), SB (1), BB (24)

Genarito Nunez, 3B, Last Season: 1954, HOF Standard: 49
2432 H, 425 2B, 144 HR, 1151 RBI, 1159 R, 554 K, 567 BB, 141 SB, .314 AVG, .816 OPS
WWII - 2 Yrs
OPS+: 127
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 1
Career Top 25: NONE

NEW

Peaches Badeau, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 58
2677 H, 325 2B, 150 HR, 1138 RBI, 1367 R, 760 K, 1089 BB, 81 SB, .341 AVG, .882 OPS
WWII - 1 Yr
OPS+: 146
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: 3
Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2
Career Top 25: AVG (10)

Chuck Rauch, C, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 49
2038 H, 342 2B, 314 HR, 1281 RBI, 1089 R, 898 K, 955 BB, 6 SB, .281 AVG, .828 OPS
OPS+: 131
BOY Award: 1950
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 9
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 4
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: HR (20)

Frankie Bowers, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 38
1306 H, 207 2B, 137 HR, 749 RBI, 606 R, 457 K, 282 BB, 4 SB, .308 AVG, .822 OPS
WWII - 2 Yrs
OPS+: 128
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE

Artie Albrecht, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 29
1866 H, 348 2B, 131 HR, 838 RBI, 978 R, 896 K, 762 BB, 97 SB, .283 AVG, .776 OPS
WWII - 1 Yr
OPS+: 117
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2
Career Top 25: NONE

Bud Moore, C, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 35
1822 H, 324 2B, 107 HR, 896 RBI, 774 R, 665 K, 608 BB, 8 SB, .292 AVG, .757 OPS
WWII - 3 Yrs
OPS+: 111
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE

Pitchers

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 446
K: 3407
CG: 601
SHO: 95

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

210 - Andrew Murphy
163 - Frank Smith
162 - Tim Lopresto
161 - Raymond Gindler
158 - Allen Albertini
157 - Jethro Lee
157 - Cecil Tan
145 - Punchy Cote
145 - Howard Adams
144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton
138 - Dave McBean
137 - Mark Krosser
137 - Johnny Swinson
136 - Bowie Castellon
134 - Otto Kahle
134 - Scott Fenner
133 - Jassen Nelson
131 - Remmy Paul
131 - Luke Riley
131 - Tobe Palmer
129 - David Wiskersham
124 - Bourbon Allen
124 - Art Booth
121 - Ahrend Nagel

Terry Schukraft, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 49
332-255, 56.6%, 3.73 ERA, 5516.2 IP, 1764 BB, 2056 K, 428 CG, 39 SHO, 1.27 WHIP
ERA+: 120
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 4
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: IP 1, CG 2, SHO 1
Career Top 25: Wins (10), K (21), CG (14)

Mark Ponfick, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55
334-252, 57.0%, 3.82 ERA, 5596 IP, 1184 BB, 2505 K, 463 CG, 41 SHO, 1.22 WHIP
ERA+: 115
POY Award: 1944
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: WHIP 2, Wins 1
Career Top 25: Wins (9), K's (5), CG (5), SHO (25)

NEW

Scottie Allen, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 27
189-190, 49.9%, 3.29 ERA, 3694 IP, 959 BB, 1847 K, 140 CG, 34 SHO, 1.22 WHIP
WWII - 1 1/2 Yrs
ERA+: 131
POY Award: 1950
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 2, WHIP 1, SHO 1
Career Top 25: NONE

Matt from TN · 10-11-2005, 10:41 AM

The photos will be up once the TWB site gets straightened out.

canadiancreed · 10-11-2005, 10:45 AM

hmmm thin crop of newbies

jeheinz72 · 10-11-2005, 10:49 AM

I'll vote for

Dewey Mickelsen
Maurice Misisca
Peaches Badeau
Scottie Allen

Vris · 10-11-2005, 11:10 AM

Vote Scottie Allen!

I'll vote later tonight. Just wanted to get that out there.

tward13 · 10-11-2005, 11:23 AM

Minzey
Kinnear
Mickelson
Badeau
Schukraft
Ponfick

fvamos · 10-11-2005, 11:33 AM

Rauch
Kinnear
Stuart
Nunez

fhomess · 10-11-2005, 11:59 AM

3B Troy Kinnear
LF Dewey Mickelsen
CF Peaches Badeau

jdw · 10-11-2005, 12:04 PM

> hmmm thin crop of newbies

Yeah... Peaches and Rauch suck. One of the best catchers of all-time and one of the best OF's of the Live Era.

John

jdw · 10-11-2005, 12:05 PM

Peaches Badeau
Dewey Mickelsen
Maurice Misisca
Jonny Perly
Chuck Rauch
Terry Schukraft
Ted Stuart

John

jdw · 10-11-2005, 12:07 PM

I'm surprised by the lack of votes for Rauch. Just 2 of the 5 ballots so far. With Dunk going in so easily and Sunny finally going in last year, I would have thought we were in a period of showing love to the great catchers.

John

canadiancreed · 10-11-2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

> hmmm thin crop of newbies

Yeah... Peaches and Rauch suck. One of the best catchers of all-time and one of the best OF's of the Live Era.

John

yes aka thin, as in one or two, as opposed to many.

fhomess · 10-11-2005, 12:42 PM

In the list of current HOFers and their OPS+, I don't see Fat Gus Kahle or Jonathan Wright. Didn't these guys get elected?

canadiancreed · 10-11-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhomess

In the list of current HOFers and their OPS+, I don't see Fat Gus Kahle or Jonathan Wright. Didn't these guys get elected?

I dont think they got enough votes last year to stay?

jdw · 10-11-2005, 12:52 PM

Tribe Frank is correct - Rhino and Fat Gus are already in the HOF.

John

bigjas · 10-11-2005, 01:15 PM

Peaches Badeau
Jon Minzey
Troy Kinnear
Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden
Mark Ponfick
Dewey Mickelsen

metsgeek · 10-11-2005, 01:35 PM

Badeau
Rauch
Mickelsen
Minzey
Perly
Arsenault
Bowden
Finley
Schukraft
Ponfick

haggis007 · 10-11-2005, 01:37 PM

DEWEY! (Could this be his year?)
Minzey
Kinnear
Bowden
Perly
Badeau
Rauch
Misisca
Ponfick
Schukraft

fhomess · 10-11-2005, 02:29 PM

"Fat Gus" Kahle was elected in 1949 at 87.5%, the same as Kaiser Kahle.
Jonathan Wright was elected in 1958 at 85%, the same as Bud Breckenridge.

Ok, I'm satisfied now.

ifspuds · 10-11-2005, 02:55 PM

Kinnear
Stuart
Mickelsen
Badeau
Perly
Finley
Rauch

I'd also like to make a little speech in support of Dewey Mickelsen's candidacy for the Hall of Fame. If you haven't thought about voting for him before, please do:

Career Numbers (with All-Time rank at time of retirement, if in the top 25)

Average: .294
On-Base Percentage: .375
Slugging Percentage: .481
OPS: .857
Hits: 2560
Doubles: 329
Triples: 149
Home Runs: 335 (5th)
RBI: 1322
Runs: 1431
Walks: 1138
Strikeouts: 589

Hit for the cycle twice, and has an impressive number of triples for a guy who only stole 17 bases in his career. 3 Gold Gloves in left field. 3 hitting streaks of 20 or more games. 9 straight (9 total) All-Star appearances from 1937-1945 and somehow missed the team in 1946 and 1947 despite posting OPS totals of .934 and .951 those two seasons. Won the World Series with Chicago in 1938, the Cubs' third straight World Series appearance, and hit .350/.458/.500 in the '38 Series. Despite going .200/.231/.240 in the '36 Series, Mickelsen ended as a .286/.367/.357 career postseason hitter.

If he doesn't have enough hits for you, consider this: he didn't get a full-time job until he was 23, spending 5 years on the Cubs bench, and he has over 1100 walks. He was a tremendous disciplined hitter, striking out about half the number of times that he walked. This wasn't your big hacker power hitter. Mickelsen did everything except steal bases well: he hit for average, he hit for power, he hit doubles and triples (8 times in the top 10), he was in double figures for homers in every season he got at least 200 AB and hit over 20 homers a season 8 times, a testament to his longevity and durability. If that doesn't sound like many home runs, consider that he finished in the top 10 of the league for 15 straight years (1933-1947).

It's long past time to put Dewey in the Hall.

10-11-2005, 10:40 AM	#1
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1961 1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results, 1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results, 1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash) No players were elected to the RL HOF by the BBWAA in 1961, but Max Carey and Billy Hamilton were elected by the VC. All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1961 (retired after 1955 season). All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected. Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10. HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max. PLEASE NOTE: Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII Note: OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras. Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference: 189 - Woody Woodson 166 - Dark Horse Allen 163 - Jason Tedford 159 - Whitey Kohse 158 - Oscar Vancini 152 - Jed Burke 152 - Patrick Seifried 149 - Genaro Nunez 148 - Whiskey Allen 145 - Blake Crocitto 141 - Ben Baum 141 - Tee Carver 140 - Bud Breckenridge 140 - John Falise 140 - Ray Brown 140 - Scott Podlasek 140 - Dale Lamberty 140 - Bobby Martin 138 - Tyrell Chestnut 137 - Kid Fite 137 - Will Miller 137 - Steven Bussell 136 - Harry Cohan 136 - Jared Jarry 135 - John Klehammer 135 - Jimmy Ditty 134 - Carl Kahle 133 - Slap Hertzog 133 - Flaky Arsenault 133 - Roy Hobbs 133 - Dave Arkless 132 - Adolf Greisbach 132 - John Schmieder 130 - Sunny Davie 129 - Tom Turley 129 - George Ward 129 - Ping Hung 129 - Herman Dunkel 127 - Campbell Ditty 126 - Bull Zegri 124 - Levi Walls 123 - Dale Reneau 123 - Alan Liao 122 - Sam Kass 122 - Sal Rossi 121 - Quenton Misisca 120 - Ervin Skjerly 118 - Gus Kahle 110 - David McAuliffe Batters Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): AVG: .364 Hits: 4000 HR: 557 RBI: 1906 2B: 665 BB: 1962 R: 2004 SB: 1297 Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS OPS+: 114 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 4 Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 1 Career Top 25: Runs (23), Hits (23) Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS OPS+: 127 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: 2B (6), HR (6), RBI (14), BB (15) Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44 1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS OPS+: 102 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 10 Pennants: 7 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 2 Career Top 25: SB (14) Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 57 2510 H, 541 2B, 68 HR, 888 RBI, 1352 R, 648 K, 514 BB, 657 SB, .318 AVG, .816 OPS WWII OPS+: 120 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1928 Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 2 Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1, Runs 3 Career Top 25: 2B (14), SB (12) Ted Stuart, SS, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 31 1800 H, 258 2B, 45 HR, 757 RBI, 797 R, 631 K, 547 BB, 31 SB, .296 AVG, .749 OPS OPS+: 110 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 9 Pennants: 4 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE Dewey Mickelsen, LF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50 2560 H, 329 2B, 335 HR, 1322 RBI, 1431 R, 589 K, 1138 BB, 17 SB, .294 AVG, .857 OPS OPS+: 139 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: HR (6) Al Arsenault, LF, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 47 2359 H, 557 2B, 285 HR, 1458 RBI, 1341 R, 414 K, 941 BB, 129 SB, .287 AVG, .854 OPS OPS+: 135 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 4 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 2, 3B 1, RBI 1 Career Top 25: HR (16), RBI (22), 2B (10) Maurice Misisca, 3B, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 34 1657 H, 214 2B, 233 HR, 944 RBI, 849 R, 453 K, 674 BB, 68 SB, .291 AVG, .835 OPS OPS+: 137 BOY Award: 1943, 1944, 1946 ROY Award: 1931 Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: OBP 2, SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 2, RBI 1 Career Top 25: NONE Jonny Perly, 2B/SS, Last Season: 1954, HOF Standard: 48 2336 H, 339 2B, 123 HR, 946 RBI, 1622 R, 1098 K, 1324 BB, 1297 SB, .268 AVG, .760 OPS OPS+: 114 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 3 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 1, Runs 3, BB 1, SB 13 Career Top 25: Runs (19), SB (1), BB (24) Genarito Nunez, 3B, Last Season: 1954, HOF Standard: 49 2432 H, 425 2B, 144 HR, 1151 RBI, 1159 R, 554 K, 567 BB, 141 SB, .314 AVG, .816 OPS WWII - 2 Yrs OPS+: 127 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 1 Career Top 25: NONE NEW Peaches Badeau, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 58 2677 H, 325 2B, 150 HR, 1138 RBI, 1367 R, 760 K, 1089 BB, 81 SB, .341 AVG, .882 OPS WWII - 1 Yr OPS+: 146 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: 3 Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2 Career Top 25: AVG (10) Chuck Rauch, C, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 49 2038 H, 342 2B, 314 HR, 1281 RBI, 1089 R, 898 K, 955 BB, 6 SB, .281 AVG, .828 OPS OPS+: 131 BOY Award: 1950 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 9 Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 4 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: HR (20) Frankie Bowers, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 38 1306 H, 207 2B, 137 HR, 749 RBI, 606 R, 457 K, 282 BB, 4 SB, .308 AVG, .822 OPS WWII - 2 Yrs OPS+: 128 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE Artie Albrecht, CF, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 29 1866 H, 348 2B, 131 HR, 838 RBI, 978 R, 896 K, 762 BB, 97 SB, .283 AVG, .776 OPS WWII - 1 Yr OPS+: 117 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 4 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2 Career Top 25: NONE Bud Moore, C, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 35 1822 H, 324 2B, 107 HR, 896 RBI, 774 R, 665 K, 608 BB, 8 SB, .292 AVG, .757 OPS WWII - 3 Yrs OPS+: 111 BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 1 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE Pitchers Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): ERA: 2.10 W: 446 K: 3407 CG: 601 SHO: 95 Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference: 210 - Andrew Murphy 163 - Frank Smith 162 - Tim Lopresto 161 - Raymond Gindler 158 - Allen Albertini 157 - Jethro Lee 157 - Cecil Tan 145 - Punchy Cote 145 - Howard Adams 144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton 138 - Dave McBean 137 - Mark Krosser 137 - Johnny Swinson 136 - Bowie Castellon 134 - Otto Kahle 134 - Scott Fenner 133 - Jassen Nelson 131 - Remmy Paul 131 - Luke Riley 131 - Tobe Palmer 129 - David Wiskersham 124 - Bourbon Allen 124 - Art Booth 121 - Ahrend Nagel Terry Schukraft, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 49 332-255, 56.6%, 3.73 ERA, 5516.2 IP, 1764 BB, 2056 K, 428 CG, 39 SHO, 1.27 WHIP ERA+: 120 POY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 4 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: IP 1, CG 2, SHO 1 Career Top 25: Wins (10), K (21), CG (14) Mark Ponfick, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55 334-252, 57.0%, 3.82 ERA, 5596 IP, 1184 BB, 2505 K, 463 CG, 41 SHO, 1.22 WHIP ERA+: 115 POY Award: 1944 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 2 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: WHIP 2, Wins 1 Career Top 25: Wins (9), K's (5), CG (5), SHO (25) NEW Scottie Allen, Last Season: 1955, HOF Standard: 27 189-190, 49.9%, 3.29 ERA, 3694 IP, 959 BB, 1847 K, 140 CG, 34 SHO, 1.22 WHIP WWII - 1 1/2 Yrs ERA+: 131 POY Award: 1950 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: ERA 2, WHIP 1, SHO 1 Career Top 25: NONE __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise Last edited by Matt from TN; 10-11-2005 at 09:36 PM.

10-11-2005, 10:41 AM	#2
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	The photos will be up once the TWB site gets straightened out. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

10-11-2005, 10:45 AM	#3
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	hmmm thin crop of newbies __________________ PT21 PT22

10-11-2005, 10:49 AM	#4
jeheinz72 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 2,163	I'll vote for Dewey Mickelsen Maurice Misisca Peaches Badeau Scottie Allen __________________ Join The Dugout!

10-11-2005, 11:10 AM	#5
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	Vote Scottie Allen! I'll vote later tonight. Just wanted to get that out there. __________________ None Blog it.

10-11-2005, 11:23 AM	#6
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Minzey Kinnear Mickelson Badeau Schukraft Ponfick

10-11-2005, 11:33 AM	#7
fvamos Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 75	Rauch Kinnear Stuart Nunez

10-11-2005, 11:59 AM	#8
fhomess Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,638	3B Troy Kinnear LF Dewey Mickelsen CF Peaches Badeau __________________ StatsLab- PHP/MySQL based utilities for Online Leagues Baseball Cards - Full list of known templates and documentation on card development.

10-11-2005, 12:04 PM	#9
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,114	> hmmm thin crop of newbies Yeah... Peaches and Rauch suck. One of the best catchers of all-time and one of the best OF's of the Live Era. John

10-11-2005, 12:05 PM	#10
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,114	Peaches Badeau Dewey Mickelsen Maurice Misisca Jonny Perly Chuck Rauch Terry Schukraft Ted Stuart John

10-11-2005, 12:07 PM	#11
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,114	I'm surprised by the lack of votes for Rauch. Just 2 of the 5 ballots so far. With Dunk going in so easily and Sunny finally going in last year, I would have thought we were in a period of showing love to the great catchers. John

10-11-2005, 12:42 PM	#13
fhomess Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,638	In the list of current HOFers and their OPS+, I don't see Fat Gus Kahle or Jonathan Wright. Didn't these guys get elected? __________________ StatsLab- PHP/MySQL based utilities for Online Leagues Baseball Cards - Full list of known templates and documentation on card development.

10-11-2005, 12:52 PM	#15
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,114	Tribe Frank is correct - Rhino and Fat Gus are already in the HOF. John

10-11-2005, 01:15 PM	#16
bigjas Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olive Hill, KY Posts: 279	Peaches Badeau Jon Minzey Troy Kinnear Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden Mark Ponfick Dewey Mickelsen

10-11-2005, 01:35 PM	#17
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	Badeau Rauch Mickelsen Minzey Perly Arsenault Bowden Finley Schukraft Ponfick __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

10-11-2005, 01:37 PM	#18
haggis007 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 115	DEWEY! (Could this be his year?) Minzey Kinnear Bowden Perly Badeau Rauch Misisca Ponfick Schukraft

10-11-2005, 02:29 PM	#19
fhomess Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,638	"Fat Gus" Kahle was elected in 1949 at 87.5%, the same as Kaiser Kahle. Jonathan Wright was elected in 1958 at 85%, the same as Bud Breckenridge. Ok, I'm satisfied now. __________________ StatsLab- PHP/MySQL based utilities for Online Leagues Baseball Cards - Full list of known templates and documentation on card development.

10-11-2005, 02:55 PM	#20
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117	Kinnear Stuart Mickelsen Badeau Perly Finley Rauch I'd also like to make a little speech in support of Dewey Mickelsen's candidacy for the Hall of Fame. If you haven't thought about voting for him before, please do: Career Numbers (with All-Time rank at time of retirement, if in the top 25) Average: .294 On-Base Percentage: .375 Slugging Percentage: .481 OPS: .857 Hits: 2560 Doubles: 329 Triples: 149 Home Runs: 335 (5th) RBI: 1322 Runs: 1431 Walks: 1138 Strikeouts: 589 Hit for the cycle twice, and has an impressive number of triples for a guy who only stole 17 bases in his career. 3 Gold Gloves in left field. 3 hitting streaks of 20 or more games. 9 straight (9 total) All-Star appearances from 1937-1945 and somehow missed the team in 1946 and 1947 despite posting OPS totals of .934 and .951 those two seasons. Won the World Series with Chicago in 1938, the Cubs' third straight World Series appearance, and hit .350/.458/.500 in the '38 Series. Despite going .200/.231/.240 in the '36 Series, Mickelsen ended as a .286/.367/.357 career postseason hitter. If he doesn't have enough hits for you, consider this: he didn't get a full-time job until he was 23, spending 5 years on the Cubs bench, and he has over 1100 walks. He was a tremendous disciplined hitter, striking out about half the number of times that he walked. This wasn't your big hacker power hitter. Mickelsen did everything except steal bases well: he hit for average, he hit for power, he hit doubles and triples (8 times in the top 10), he was in double figures for homers in every season he got at least 200 AB and hit over 20 homers a season 8 times, a testament to his longevity and durability. If that doesn't sound like many home runs, consider that he finished in the top 10 of the league for 15 straight years (1933-1947). It's long past time to put Dewey in the Hall. __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired