How do you feel about allowing trades of Draft Picks

[Bobfather]

I have had draft pick trading turned off for the last 4 seasons. Because my league now has a hard cap. I am thinking about trading them back on. What do you think?
Teams could trade picks for players with higher salaries, while teams near the cap don't have to take on salary.
The reason I turned it off was that I would package picks together to move up in the draft sometimes getting 5 picks in rounds 2 and 3.

[Sweed]

I have always left it off. My first reason being it's not allowed in MLB and I do try to follow most of the rules. Even if MLB went to allowing trades of picks I'm not sure I'd turn it on. At least not until the league had been doing it long enough to establish how those picks would be valued.

In my game I am happy enough with the trades I see between AI teams, the ones the AI offers to me, and the trades I make as the initiator. Before someone jumps in, yes it can always be improved, the glass is half full, not overflowing. My game is going along nicely "as is", I see no reason to change it.

[tonnage]

I've always had it turned on. Sometimes that 5th round pick or even a 10th round pick is enough to finalize a trade, either way. Draft pick trading is allowed in every professional North American sport I can think of, including MLB to a certain extent, so why not? It works in my save.

[Westheim]

Trading draft picks is a cardinal sin.

If you tolerate trading draft picks, then your children will be next.

[Bobfather]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Trading draft picks is a cardinal sin.

If you tolerate trading draft picks, then your children will be next.

If it is a Cardinal sin I'm OK since I play as The Red Sox.

I'll trade two teenagers for a baby. I'm kidding I'll throw in the mother in law too.

[r0nster]

i allow Trading draft picks. As thats my way of doing the player to be named later type of trades.

[mgom27]

Originally Posted by r0nster

i allow Trading draft picks. As thats my way of doing the player to be named later type of trades.

yes that as a option.

[texasmame]

Love it. Computer tends to overvalue them when trading them away, tho - just like their players.

[BaseballGOAT]

Not OOTP related but I get why baseball doesn't allow it. Draft picks are at least on average 2 to 3 years away from being in the bigs. So the players aren't drafted on need.

[tonnage]

The MLB has Competitive Balance Draft picks awarded to "The 10 lowest-revenue clubs and the clubs from the 10 smallest markets." These picks CAN BE TRADED. There's talk that it's just a matter of time before regular draft picks will be allowed to be traded in MLB.

[Bobbyraz49]

Originally Posted by sweed

i have always left it off. My first reason being it's not allowed in mlb and i do try to follow most of the rules. Even if mlb went to allowing trades of picks i'm not sure i'd turn it on. At least not until the league had been doing it long enough to establish how those picks would be valued.

In my game i am happy enough with the trades i see between ai teams, the ones the ai offers to me, and the trades i make as the initiator. Before someone jumps in, yes it can always be improved, the glass is half full, not overflowing. My game is going along nicely "as is", i see no reason to change it.

this !

[kq76]

I'd be more okay with trading them if they were limited in some way.

I like the NBA's Stepien rule that you can't trade consecutive 1st rd picks. The history of it is interesting. Basically this guy Ted Stepien was the owner of the Cavs in the early 80s and he kept trading away their 1st rd picks getting next to nothing in return when he could have drafted so many players who ended up hall of famers. So the NBA had to step in and limit the trading of them.

I'd hate to pick up a team that traded away a bunch of their picks.

[Syd Thrift]

My personal issue with allowing them is that they don’t exist IRL and so there’s no model for the devs to go off of to figure out what’s too much and what isn’t enough. The NFL has this down to a science - each pick has its own point value and so you can see at a glance whether pick trades make sense in a neutral draft and all other things being equal (for instance, the recent Bears-Panthers trade came out with the Panthers actually ahead with the pick deals alone, which I think it why they had to throw in the WR). The MLB draft is already a crapshoot. At best you could go in and assign point values to picks based on value, but even if you went all the way back to the beginning, there are so many booms and busts that you’d have to apply a lot of smoothing, and even after you set all that up - and I don’t think there’s any evidence OOTPD has done anything like that because I’m not aware that people have done that a lot in sabermetrics, period - there’s the very real question as to whether or not an OOTP league with default settings would have the same smoothing (probably not) and if you’ve touched those settings at all, well…

So it’s a thing you can have if you want and I bet it could be great for online leagues. If you’re playing the AI it’s going to be one more way you can cheese it.

[tonnage]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

If you’re playing the AI it’s going to be one more way you can cheese it.

I play with trading set to the hardest, allow draft pick trading, and certainly don't see that. I guess if you play with trading set to easy, trading draft picks would be another way to thwart the AI.

[Deft]

I never play MLB games so I have no concerns with abiding to their rules. I prefer fictional leagues and draft pick trading adds to the depth of the GM options. From my experience, the AI is adequate in evaluating draft pick values as difficulty in trading seems to increase as the draft approaches.

[MK_735]

I used to use allow them but I found that you could really cheese the AI. The value of the picks is weird. The only thing that seems right is how unwilling the top 5 overall picks are hard to pull in trades. The value of those picks is very very high. After that it's kinda iffy. Round 2-10 are kinda valued horribly.

[tonnage]

Originally Posted by MK_735

I used to use allow them but I found that you could really cheese the AI.

That's interesting because I don't see that at all. In fact, the AI in my fictional league holds draft picks in high esteem. I run a 15 round draft and trying to get the AI to bite on giving me a 15th round pick as a throw in to equal out a trade (at least equal in my eyes) seldom works. I have trading set to the hardest level and run my AI settings at 65-20-10-5.

[LegendKillerOne]

Almost never happens in baseball

[Deft]

Originally Posted by tonnage

That's interesting because I don't see that at all. In fact, the AI in my fictional league holds draft picks in high esteem. I run a 15 round draft and trying to get the AI to bite on giving me a 15th round pick as a throw in to equal out a trade (at least equal in my eyes) seldom works. I have trading set to the hardest level and run my AI settings at 65-20-10-5.

I agree. I often find the AI values draft picks even more than minor leaguers that have similar talent to the commiserate draft pick. This doesn't make sense as at least in my league; signing bonuses for draft picks and generally younger less predictable talent makes minors leaguers intrinsically more valuable.