Very disappointing decision

[BaseballGOAT]

So this patch is way more invasive than we've been led to believe

[astnhnnh]

So saved games I've put hundreds of hours into are getting decimated and there's nothing I can do about it? Way to completely kill any enthusiasm I had for this game. '24 might be the first year I skip in 15+ years.

[ajsomers]

I hired Ichiro to be my 1B coach in my current file. As a coach, nothing changed, but in his player profile all the [league that shall not be named] references have been changed (he played for the Heilbron Ducks of the South African Baseball league now).

The Ducks also were Masataka Yoshida's club before Boston.

Kodai Senga played for the Welkom Swamp Foxes.

Seiya Suzuki was a Benoni Engineer.

What randomizer came up with these team names??

Also, to confirm, guys that went to [league that shall not be named] this offseason (Willians Astudillo, etc.) are now missing completely.

[PSUColonel]

Might as well just make OOTP completely fictional..but like I said, for me I just don’t have the time or patience to go through all the stup work again. Maybe for others though.

[BaseballGOAT]

Originally Posted by ajsomers

I hired Ichiro to be my 1B coach in my current file. As a coach, nothing changed, but in his player profile all the [snip] references have been changed (he played for the Heilbron Ducks of the South African Baseball league now).

The Ducks also were Masataka Yoshida's club before Boston.

Kodai Senga played for the Welkom Swamp Foxes.

Seiya Suzuki was a Benoni Engineer.

What randomizer came up with these team names??

Also, to confirm, guys that went to [snip] this offseason (Willians Astudillo, etc.) are now missing completely.

Would you check something for me? I'm curious to see how deep the nuking goes... can you try and see what team would be Astudillo's and see if there is a player with his other info still intact or if it's nuked his historical minor league ID and his MLB stats?p

[coyotedelmar]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I assume the histories of players' who have plaid in the league are now an issue also...that's quite a few players I'd say. Check Darrin Run or Aaron Altherr.

couldn't find Darrin Run, Aaron Altherr was around in the 1BL so was safe.

Kevin Cron, Cody Poteet, Brent Honeywell Jr, and Adolis Garcia weren't as lucky.

[ajsomers]

I didn't find Astudillo (yet) but I did find Freddy Galvis. He's on a team named the Welkom Swamp Foxes. His name was changed to Andargachew Kwach.

So, presumably, the [league that shall not be named] players are there if you have the patience to find them. I don't know if edits will stick. I wonder if that could be blocked somehow?

[jokerhusky1129]

I'm curious how many people actually downloaded the patch? I know Steam automatically does it

[BaseballGOAT]

Originally Posted by ajsomers

I didn't find Astudillo (yet) but I did find Freddy Galvis. He's on a team named the Welkom Swamp Foxes. His name was changed to Andargachew Kwach.

So, presumably, the [snip] players are there if you have the patience to find them. I don't know if edits will stick. I wonder if that could be blocked somehow?

I'm not even looking at it from a work around, I'm just wondering what will happen with players that go to Japan and then eventually return to MLB. Now they're nuked f9r future use. That's just horrible

[ajsomers]

Astudillo is now Mimum Weke, a left fielder on the Swamp Foxes's minor league club.

[Kobeck]

Originally Posted by jokerhusky1129

I'm curious how many people actually downloaded the patch? I know Steam automatically does it

I did... showed 105 not 108 ... then I learned what I had done

uninstalled game and reinstalled and patched back to 103... looks like I cant start a new japan league but it looks like my Shikoku Island game is ok... with a cursory glance anyways

[ajsomers]

FWIW, for guys like Galvis and Astudillo their histories remain unchanged. The MLB/MiLB stats seem to be there with the right teams/leagues. It is only the [league that shall not be named] stuff that has been replaced but in replacing that info their names, places of birth, and photos have all been changed.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by BaseballGOAT

I'm not even looking at it from a work around, I'm just wondering what will happen with players that go to Japan and then eventually return to MLB. Now they're nuked f9r future use. That's just horrible

Which is why people who are still interested may as well just go 100 percent fictional at this point. Like it was said in another thread..this is no longer the infinite sandbox simulation…truly a shame for certain.

[BaseballGOAT]

This drastically changes the amount of interest I'll have in future versions of the game. With my large universe building, I play or work on that saved game daily. My mlb only save.. maybe once or twice a week.

[Kobeck]

Originally Posted by Kobeck

I did... showed 105 not 108 ... then I learned what I had done

uninstalled game and reinstalled and patched back to 103... looks like I cant start a new japan league but it looks like my Shikoku Island game is ok... with a cursory glance anyways

well I am boned... cant find update ootp22 86 on the interwebs and I am only able to go back to 103

[astnhnnh]

The editing of pre-existing save files is insanely egregious. Want to remove the [league that shall not be named] from the game? Cool, I can wrap my head around that. If I start a new game knowing the [league that shall not be named] isn't an option, I can make that work.

To go into a save file I've put countless hours into and destroy it is just plain stupid. So this league I've been cultivating trying to make as realistic as possible is just full of a bunch of fictional South African players now? What the hell? Now I have zero interest in playing this.

[BaseballGOAT]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Which is why people who are still interested may as well just go 100 percent fictional at this point. Like it was said in another thread..this is no longer the infinite sandbox simulation…truly a shame for certain.

Even fictional will feel some blowback from this indirectly. Low just quit making mods. I'm sure he won't be the last.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by BaseballGOAT

Even fictional will feel some blowback from this indirectly. Low just quit making mods. I'm sure he won't be the last.

Yeah…since most of the mods involve international leagues, I think that’s to be expected.

[pauwoo]

This. Is. Wild.

I can see randomizing data in a port to 24 (kind of, I guess). But nerfing existing saves? Feels like a scumbag move. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t understand the legality behind the move, license requirements , or how a cease and desist from Konami or whomever would work here in the US or abroad… this just feels gross. Scummy. And, low down.

[tm1681]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

This. Is. Wild.

I can see randomizing data in a port to 24 (kind of, I guess). But nerfing existing saves? Feels like a scumbag move. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t understand the legality behind the move, license requirements , or how a cease and desist from Konami or whomever would work here in the US or abroad… this just feels gross. Scummy. And, low down.

I think this is the last time I'll post on this tonight, but it's simple:


There is no way that either OOTP Developments or Com2US would have willingly done something that would have so clearly, easily, and obviously riled up its userbase.