Do we know if the P/DH position will be available this year?

[Zooerp]

Can we keep Ohtani in the game as DH after he is removed as pitcher in 23? I imagine this might be difficult to integrate so the rule change may have come on too short notice.

[Matt Arnold]

They love changing the rules at the last minute, but there are both options in the game to have the pitcher bat instead of the DH, and to have the Ohtani Rule active where they switch to DH after being done pitching. I can't wait to see the bug reports on those options

[r0nster]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

They love changing the rules at the last minute, but there are both options in the game to have the pitcher bat instead of the DH, and to have the Ohtani Rule active where they switch to DH after being done pitching. I can't wait to see the bug reports on those options

want me to create a bug report on it.... just for giggles HAHA .... seriously that otoni rule isnt that widely know like the shift is still legal this year but in 2023 thats no longer allowed many people think that be this year .... oops another BUG potential LOL

[kq76]

Originally Posted by r0nster

... like the shift is still legal this year but in 2023 thats no longer allowed many people think that be this year .... oops another BUG potential LOL

That happened to me. I was watching highlights the other day and the 2B was clearly on the left side and I was like, "what the hell?". So I checked and yeah, next year. Hmmph!

And yet they're doing Pitchcom right away when I really don't think they should be. I don't understand MLB anymore. It's like if something is good for the game they drag their feet, but if something is bad they implement it right away.

[r0nster]

Originally Posted by kq76

That happened to me. I was watching highlights the other day and the 2B was clearly on the left side and I was like, "what the hell?". So I checked and yeah, next year. Hmmph!

And yet they're doing Pitchcom right away when I really don't think they should be. I don't understand MLB anymore. It's like if something is good for the game they drag their feet, but if something is bad they implement it right away.

I am sure you have noticed they been dumbing down 3 of the 4 major American sports and weakening the game to the point that not as many want to watch the game in person and at times even ignore it on TV. I know where it all started and who started it and who got ball rolling and where the beachhead or foot in the door. I guess i am too much of a news junkie to even know all this and i will NOT state it in this public thread

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by r0nster

I am sure you have noticed they been dumbing down 3 of the 4 major American sports and weakening the game to the point that not as many want to watch the game in person and at times even ignore it on TV. I know where it all started and who started it and who got ball rolling and where the beachhead or foot in the door. I guess i am too much of a news junkie to even know all this and i will NOT state it in this public thread

Virtually all of the major changes to football, basketball, and baseball in recent years have come from the exact opposite of “dumbing down the sport”.

[r0nster]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Virtually all of the major changes to football, basketball, and baseball in recent years have come from the exact opposite of “dumbing down the sport”.

As you wish

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by kq76

That happened to me. I was watching highlights the other day and the 2B was clearly on the left side and I was like, "what the hell?". So I checked and yeah, next year. Hmmph!

And yet they're doing Pitchcom right away when I really don't think they should be. I don't understand MLB anymore. It's like if something is good for the game they drag their feet, but if something is bad they implement it right away.

How is Pitchcom bad for the game? In my opinion the only bad thing about Pitchcom is that they didn't implement it with Japanese language support.

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by r0nster

I know where it all started and who started it and who got ball rolling and where the beachhead or foot in the door. I guess i am too much of a news junkie to even know all this and i will NOT state it in this public thread

We don't talk about Bruno!

[MathBandit]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

How is Pitchcom bad for the game? In my opinion the only bad thing about Pitchcom is that they didn't implement it with Japanese language support.

Doesn't it support literally any language your coaching staff speaks, since they're the ones that load in the sound?

[BigRed75]

All the broadcasts crews that I have heard so far (Reds, Mariners, Angels, Padres, Apple TV+) have said that it's just English and Spanish for now, with other languages coming.

And it's a computerised voice

[kq76]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

How is Pitchcom bad for the game? In my opinion the only bad thing about Pitchcom is that they didn't implement it with Japanese language support.

See..

Originally Posted by kq76

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...on-sources-say

I'm surprised they okayed it so fast.

I reserve the right to change my mind, but at first blush I really don't like this. Sign-stealing has been a part of the game for a long time and it should be. I like that there's a bit of espionage in the game. It makes it interesting. You want to make changes to make the game safer or more interesting, sure, okay. But this makes the game more bland. Keep the spice in the recipe, please!

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...60&postcount=4

I get that it's also supposed to speed up the game and I'm good with that aspect of it. I just don't like the other implications of it.

Tonight I watched this video by MLB Network and it struck me as odd how loud it is. Now maybe they did something to make the video's viewers be able to hear it better and maybe in use it's not nearly as loud, but, if it's not audible to batter or runners, I'm thinking you could easily use one of those audio scanners to pick it up and relay it to them. I also thought it was awkward how the catcher has to program it: 1) how easy is it for the batter or someone watching via live video to see what buttons they're pressing, and 2) how easy is it for the catcher to make a mistake, press the wrong button and a pitch ends up going somewhere he's nowhere near close to setting up for? Also, can you re-program it on the fly (button A sends msg Y instead of msg X) if you think someone has caught on to what you're doing (like you easily could do previously)?

So I'm thinking now, maybe it doesn't prevent sign-stealing at all, it just makes you have to do it in different ways. I understand they tested it some previously, but I'm surprised there wasn't more talk about whether it was flat out good for the game or not. Sure, minor leagues aren't going to go through the trouble of trying to crack Pitchcom, but you can bet that MLB teams will.

EDIT: To be clear, even though I saw a bunch of issues with it from MLB Network's video, I'm actually less down on it than I was before because I'm certain now that it doesn't prevent sign-stealing (even Harold said it doesn't). They can say it does all they want, but it won't. If anything, I think it will actually make it easier. Audio scanning technology has been around a very long time and I'm sure it's far better now. What it should do though is speed up the game and, again, I'm good with that.

[byzeil]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

And it's a computerised voice

Phillies announcers have said they are using JT Realmuto's voice in their pitchcom.

[MathBandit]

Yeah, I've definitely heard a few broadcasts say it's fully customizable to include any possible run-game signs the team used to use (pickoff plays, pitchouts, etc).

[spleen1015]

In the MLB Network clip Harold Reynolds tells you they've put a mic on it so that folks can hear it at home.....

[kq76]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

In the MLB Network clip Harold Reynolds tells you they've put a mic on it so that folks can hear it at home.....

Thanks! I missed that on my first watch. I wonder if there's a volume dial or setting (my hearing isn't great and with all the crowd noise, good luck). And, if there isn't, how loud is it? Regardless, I'm still thinking you could pick it up with a scanner.

All this reminds me of the great Gene Hackman movie, the Conversation (1974).

[gcsii99]

Originally Posted by kq76

Thanks! I missed that on my first watch. I wonder if there's a volume dial or setting (my hearing isn't great and with all the crowd noise, good luck). And, if there isn't, how loud is it? Regardless, I'm still thinking you could pick it up with a scanner.

All this reminds me of the great Gene Hackman movie, the Conversation (1974).

There are volume controls on the receivers.
Pitchcom Manual

[jtsjc1]

The Pitchcom was demonstrated during the Yankee game last night.

[SirSaab]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

We don't talk about Bruno!

But!

[nutt]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

They love changing the rules at the last minute, but there are both options in the game to have the pitcher bat instead of the DH, and to have the Ohtani Rule active where they switch to DH after being done pitching. I can't wait to see the bug reports on those options

Not sure why people call it the Ohtani rule when the NCAA has been using this rule for over 20 years.