Update 11.2.17 released - Page 2

RandyTiger · 07-16-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

11.2.17 fixes the following issues:

When loading an existing league with 11.2.x for the first time, OOTP converts the player pictures from firstname_lastname.jpg/png to player_x.png. Build #17 will delete the old picture files while

This didn't occur for me (the deleting part). The date-stamp on the player_x.png is from two days ago, the .15 patch. *scratches head*

Well... at least the Facegen problem was fixed!

kckid4u · 07-16-2010, 05:38 PM

bosunmate · 07-16-2010, 05:51 PM

i have patch up to 11.2.17 and included BM's update. I still have no stats on cards, is there something i have to do..thanks

BMW · 07-16-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bosunmate

i have patch up to 11.2.17 and included BM's update. I still have no stats on cards, is there something i have to do..thanks

To be honest, it sounds eerily like you have v1.1 of the template running on 11.2.15. If not, do you notice anything else unusual?

hawaiiansky · 07-16-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyTiger

They're showing up for both the real players and fictional FG's for me after applying the .17 patch, which wasn't the case for the .15 patch.

1. Have you tried running the patch again to make sure the changes DO occur?

2. Have you tried creating a new league, importing an existing real player facegen, then trying the options?

Ran the patch again and created a new league and all options were present. However, my old league still has no beard or ethnicity options for my own created facegen pictures.

mickey7 · 07-16-2010, 06:06 PM

downloaded .17 and my existing leagues which were all photos (no FG) still show some of the photos in game, but mostly team logos instead of photos and occassionally FG instead of photos----photos all still exist in the images file but simply do not show up in game---same as patch .15

bosunmate · 07-16-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW

To be honest, it sounds eerily like you have v1.1 of the template running on 11.2.15. If not, do you notice anything else unusual?

No when i go to About it says 11.2.17 windows, but you are right about version 1.1 i deleted them and now will reinstall to see...

hawaiiansky · 07-16-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey7

downloaded .17 and my existing leagues which were all photos (no FG) still show some of the photos in game, but mostly team logos instead of photos and occassionally FG instead of photos----photos all still exist in the images file but simply do not show up in game---same as patch .15

Apparently not all facegen issues have been fixed with the latest patch.

RandyTiger · 07-16-2010, 06:20 PM

The results from this patch DO seem to be a bit uneven - some things are getting fixed, others are not.

Curiously, it seems to be the existing leagues that have the problem, not new ones. Strange.

Ambermonk · 07-16-2010, 06:57 PM

I'm sorry to note that, after installing 11.2.17, when I continue my existing fictional league the 'same picture' and 'change beard' options still have not been returned.

BlitzburghBucco · 07-16-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yes. We'll have a suit done for patch #1 hopefully.

This is from the RTR #7 update.

After two patches, our owners/trainers/doctors are still wearing uniforms. Has this fallen by the wayside?

Millsy · 07-16-2010, 07:08 PM

I'm scratching my head here, trying to figure out why patch 2.17 was released so close to patch 2.15. Looking at the fixes for 2.15 I can see substantial fixes and improvements to features and game function. For 2.17 it looks like Dave Kingman's beard didn't show up right in someones Facegen so there was a patch released.

Now, for those who do solo leagues and such this may not be such a big deal, but for online leagues that rely on 20-30+ owners all being at the same patch level it's a huge deal.

Please, tell me I'm missing something here.

Ambermonk · 07-16-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Millsy

Please, tell me I'm missing something here.

I believe that there were some bugs in the 2.15 patch and the 2.17 patch was an unsuccessful attempt to correct them. There will probably be another patch appearing soon as a second attempt to correct the bugs in patch 2.15.

Millsy · 07-16-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambermonk

I believe that there were some bugs in the 2.15 patch and the 2.17 patch was an unsuccessful attempt to correct them. There will probably be another patch appearing soon as a second attempt to correct the bugs in patch 2.15.

Any links to that info or just conjecture? The fix list states nothing to that effect.

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11.2.17 fixes the following issues:

* 3 minor bugs on the baseball cards are fixed. Build #17 also contains the latest baseball card templates created by our beta tester BMW!
* Fixed the bug where changes made to PhotoFit (Facegen) pictures where not sticky and caused the picture to reload.
* The change beard/hair color/facial type/same picture functions are back in the picture menu now for fictional and for photofit/fg file pictures.
* When loading an existing league with 11.2.x for the first time, OOTP converts the player pictures from firstname_lastname.jpg/png to player_x.png. Build #17 will delete the old picture files while converting a league.
* The patcher installs the latest version of the text database (english.xml file). The file contains a timestamp to check its version.

hefalumps · 07-16-2010, 07:35 PM

I would like to report that I just patched to .17, and so far all of the PhotoFit FaceGen pictures I have checked in my existing historical league DO have all of the hair/ethnicity options in the menu.

However, the few players in my league that have neither a PhotoFit FaceGen or real photo available (and hence were given fictional FaceGen pictures) do NOT have the hair/ethnicity options in the menu.

It sounds like hawaiiansky was having this same issue (no menu options for the FaceGen photos he created), but Big Six had the opposite issue - his fictional players had the menu options, but his PhotoFit players did not.

Andreas - any idea why we might be seeing different behavior in different leagues? What criteria exactly does the code use to determine what menu options to display? Should the hair/ethnicity options display for all FaceGen files regardless of whether they're fictional or PhotoFit? Should those options only be disabled for "real" or non-present player photos? If so, I'm wondering if OOTP is treating any FaceGen photos that were created by a prior version/patchlevel of OOTP as "real" photos? How does OOTP know when it needs to update a FaceGen photo, and how does it retain any changes that have been made (beard, hair, etc.)? I wonder if re-generateing all the fictional photos using the latest patch would allow OOTP to start treating them properly.

MizzouRah · 07-16-2010, 08:55 PM

Think I'll stick with 11.2.15 for now.

Sweed · 07-16-2010, 09:13 PM

Yeah, the face gen menu options didn't show in .17 for me either. FWIW my league is imported from version X. not created in 11. I did use the fix "go to each teams uniform screen and use the update player photos" which does to the trick and only takes about 5 minutes.

However if I go down to my minor leagues those players didn't get, in .15 or .17, menu options. Good news is you don't have to do the "team uniform screen fix" for all of your minor league teams if you don't want to. When you promote\demote a minor league player the game updates his picture and the menu selections appear.

I'm not going to worry about it as the workaround was an easy one time thing.

Ambermonk · 07-16-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Millsy

Any links to that info or just conjecture? The fix list states nothing to that effect.

Just my opinion. The fact that 2.17 came out so quickly is an indication that OOTP was interested in correcting the bugs. That suggests that, if 2.17 failed to correct the issues, there would be another, more specifically directed attempt to correct these same remaining issues.

Ambermonk · 07-16-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Think I'll stick with 11.2.15 for now.

You're a smart man. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't patch until I read in the forum that the issues mentioned in this thread have been corrected.

hawaiiansky · 07-16-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambermonk

Just my opinion. The fact that 2.17 came out so quickly is an indication that OOTP was interested in correcting the bugs. That suggests that, if 2.17 failed to correct the issues, there would be another, more specifically directed attempt to correct these same remaining issues.

I'm praying to the bloodball gods that this is true!

07-16-2010, 06:06 PM	#26
mickey7 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 203	photo issues unchanged downloaded .17 and my existing leagues which were all photos (no FG) still show some of the photos in game, but mostly team logos instead of photos and occassionally FG instead of photos----photos all still exist in the images file but simply do not show up in game---same as patch .15

07-16-2010, 06:57 PM	#30
Ambermonk All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morro Bay, CA Posts: 1,257	I'm sorry to note that, after installing 11.2.17, when I continue my existing fictional league the 'same picture' and 'change beard' options still have not been returned. __________________ *I cast this question into your soul, that I might know how deep it is* - Friedrich Nietzsche It often shows a fine command of language - to say nothing! - Bertrand Russell

07-16-2010, 07:08 PM	#32
Millsy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 67	I'm scratching my head here, trying to figure out why patch 2.17 was released so close to patch 2.15. Looking at the fixes for 2.15 I can see substantial fixes and improvements to features and game function. For 2.17 it looks like Dave Kingman's beard didn't show up right in someones Facegen so there was a patch released. Now, for those who do solo leagues and such this may not be such a big deal, but for online leagues that rely on 20-30+ owners all being at the same patch level it's a huge deal. Please, tell me I'm missing something here. __________________ Official Pitmaster and Commissioner Emeritus: GUBA

07-16-2010, 05:38 PM	#22
kckid4u All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pictured Above: Buck Barnett - Best Pitcher in OOTP History! Posts: 957

07-16-2010, 05:51 PM	#23
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,713	i have patch up to 11.2.17 and included BM's update. I still have no stats on cards, is there something i have to do..thanks

07-16-2010, 06:20 PM	#29
RandyTiger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,510	The results from this patch DO seem to be a bit uneven - some things are getting fixed, others are not. Curiously, it seems to be the existing leagues that have the problem, not new ones. Strange.

07-16-2010, 07:35 PM	#35
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,374	I would like to report that I just patched to .17, and so far all of the PhotoFit FaceGen pictures I have checked in my existing historical league DO have all of the hair/ethnicity options in the menu. However, the few players in my league that have neither a PhotoFit FaceGen or real photo available (and hence were given fictional FaceGen pictures) do NOT have the hair/ethnicity options in the menu. It sounds like hawaiiansky was having this same issue (no menu options for the FaceGen photos he created), but Big Six had the opposite issue - his fictional players had the menu options, but his PhotoFit players did not. Andreas - any idea why we might be seeing different behavior in different leagues? What criteria exactly does the code use to determine what menu options to display? Should the hair/ethnicity options display for all FaceGen files regardless of whether they're fictional or PhotoFit? Should those options only be disabled for "real" or non-present player photos? If so, I'm wondering if OOTP is treating any FaceGen photos that were created by a prior version/patchlevel of OOTP as "real" photos? How does OOTP know when it needs to update a FaceGen photo, and how does it retain any changes that have been made (beard, hair, etc.)? I wonder if re-generateing all the fictional photos using the latest patch would allow OOTP to start treating them properly.

07-16-2010, 08:55 PM	#36
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	Think I'll stick with 11.2.15 for now.

07-16-2010, 09:13 PM	#37
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,664	Yeah, the face gen menu options didn't show in .17 for me either. FWIW my league is imported from version X. not created in 11. I did use the fix "go to each teams uniform screen and use the update player photos" which does to the trick and only takes about 5 minutes. However if I go down to my minor leagues those players didn't get, in .15 or .17, menu options. Good news is you don't have to do the "team uniform screen fix" for all of your minor league teams if you don't want to. When you promote\demote a minor league player the game updates his picture and the menu selections appear. I'm not going to worry about it as the workaround was an easy one time thing.