Wally Backman Fired

BleedingCubbyBlue · 11-05-2004, 12:57 PM

Wally Backman was fired today by the Arizona Diamondbacks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1916771

ctorg · 11-05-2004, 12:59 PM

Holy ****!

Is that the record for fastest manager firing ever? It has to be.

A real shame, too. Wally was a favorite of mine on the Mets in the 80s.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-05-2004, 01:02 PM

That sucks. They should've looked into things more before offering him the job, and saved themselves and Wally the embarrassment.

ctorg · 11-05-2004, 01:08 PM

I wonder if they are still obligated to pay him for his full contract. If so, that's a pretty good deal for Wally.

jaxmagicman · 11-05-2004, 01:12 PM

Lifetime Record as a manager 0-0.

kq76 · 11-05-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I wonder if they are still obligated to pay him for his full contract. If so, that's a pretty good deal for Wally.

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He had not signed a contract with the team, so there were no financial repercussions for the team.

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ctorg · 11-05-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

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Ah, thanks. I missed that.

Bad deal for Wally, then. Very bad deal.

KurtBevacqua · 11-05-2004, 01:36 PM

All things considered, using this criteria Billy Martin wouldn't have been allowed to sell Pepsi at D-Backs games.

bulldog55 · 11-05-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

They should've looked into things more before offering him the job, and saved themselves and Wally the embarrassment.

Apparently it wouldn't have made a difference:

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The D-Backs admitted Tuesday they had not done a thorough background check on Backman, but Kendrick said then, “We would have hired him” even if the team had uncovered the arrests.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=31035

If someone would like to explain the logic behind that, I'm all ears.

thehatfield · 11-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Wow... I do feel pretty badly for Wally but hopefully getting all this out in the open now, and then keeping his nose clean for a few years, will result in another opportunity. The guy was minor league manager of the year twice wasn't he?

ctorg · 11-05-2004, 01:59 PM

I think this is not a good move on the part of the D-Backs, actually. It's pretty low class. Backman purposely backed out of other jobs, specifically telling the Mets that he was withdrawing from the interview process, to take this job. That's lousy.

And I can understand the assault stuff, but since when does declaring bankruptcy make you a bad baseball manager?!

canadiancreed · 11-05-2004, 02:27 PM

apprantely in this weird world it does

last i checked tehy're not asking him to hold FBI secrets or work at a bank, this is a ball club, half the palyers probably have a record (generalization)

KurtBevacqua · 11-05-2004, 02:38 PM

So they replace Bob Brenly with Bob Melvin. Aren't they like, the same person?

JDOldSchool · 11-05-2004, 02:53 PM

I don't see how anybody can blame the Diamondbacks here. According to what I've heard on ESPN Radio, the DBacks asked Backman if there was anything of this nature in his past and he lied about it.

Backman was in the White Sox organization managing the Birmingham Barons up until this year. He was no longer welcome with the team because he was basically openly campaigning for the manager job while Jerry Manuel was still employed. That's extremely unprofessional.

The guy seems to have a few issues. I think the Diamondbacks are better off without him.

Karros270 · 11-05-2004, 03:20 PM

If the Diamondbacks don't win another World Series this year it's because they didn't have Backman to lead them there.

Melo · 11-05-2004, 03:35 PM

These incidents occurred in 2001. He coached in their system this past year. Why is it an issue now? Something is not right here unless there is something else that no one wants to discuss publicly.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-05-2004, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtBevacqua

So they replace Bob Brenly with Bob Melvin. Aren't they like, the same person?

Before you said that, I initially had Bob Brenly's face in my mind when I saw Bob Melvin was to be the new manager. So yeah, I think they are the same person!

Dagrims · 11-05-2004, 04:00 PM

Backman should wait a few years, and then UCF can hire him to be their baseball coach. George O'Leary sure has whipped the football team into shape.

Karros270 · 11-05-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Before you said that, I initially had Bob Brenly's face in my mind when I saw Bob Melvin was to be the new manager. So yeah, I think they are the same person!

Come to think of it I never have seen them in the same place at the same time.

Martin Prince · 11-05-2004, 04:07 PM

This is complete garbage. Ray Lewis is charged in a homicide, and could have gone to jail, but Wally Backman is the bad guy?

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ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Holy ****! Is that the record for fastest manager firing ever? It has to be. A real shame, too. Wally was a favorite of mine on the Mets in the 80s. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

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ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I wonder if they are still obligated to pay him for his full contract. If so, that's a pretty good deal for Wally. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

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KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	All things considered, using this criteria Billy Martin wouldn't have been allowed to sell Pepsi at D-Backs games. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

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Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	That sucks. They should've looked into things more before offering him the job, and saved themselves and Wally the embarrassment.

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thehatfield All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: dirty jerz Posts: 1,339	Wow... I do feel pretty badly for Wally but hopefully getting all this out in the open now, and then keeping his nose clean for a few years, will result in another opportunity. The guy was minor league manager of the year twice wasn't he? __________________ AFBL - Maryland Bridegrooms SBC - Western Suburbs Magpies no pressure no problem

11-05-2004, 01:59 PM	#11
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I think this is not a good move on the part of the D-Backs, actually. It's pretty low class. Backman purposely backed out of other jobs, specifically telling the Mets that he was withdrawing from the interview process, to take this job. That's lousy. And I can understand the assault stuff, but since when does declaring bankruptcy make you a bad baseball manager?! __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

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canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	apprantely in this weird world it does last i checked tehy're not asking him to hold FBI secrets or work at a bank, this is a ball club, half the palyers probably have a record (generalization) __________________ PT21 PT22

11-05-2004, 02:38 PM	#13
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	So they replace Bob Brenly with Bob Melvin. Aren't they like, the same person? __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

11-05-2004, 02:53 PM	#14
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	I don't see how anybody can blame the Diamondbacks here. According to what I've heard on ESPN Radio, the DBacks asked Backman if there was anything of this nature in his past and he lied about it. Backman was in the White Sox organization managing the Birmingham Barons up until this year. He was no longer welcome with the team because he was basically openly campaigning for the manager job while Jerry Manuel was still employed. That's extremely unprofessional. The guy seems to have a few issues. I think the Diamondbacks are better off without him.

11-05-2004, 03:20 PM	#15
Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392	If the Diamondbacks don't win another World Series this year it's because they didn't have Backman to lead them there. __________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me

11-05-2004, 03:35 PM	#16
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	These incidents occurred in 2001. He coached in their system this past year. Why is it an issue now? Something is not right here unless there is something else that no one wants to discuss publicly.

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Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	Backman should wait a few years, and then UCF can hire him to be their baseball coach. George O'Leary sure has whipped the football team into shape. __________________ "Read books, get brain."

11-05-2004, 04:07 PM	#20
Martin Prince Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, USA Posts: 36	This is complete garbage. Ray Lewis is charged in a homicide, and could have gone to jail, but Wally Backman is the bad guy? __________________ Senior animated 4th grade nerd of the OOTP boards