'Ancient' bugs report thread

Markus Heinsohn · 09-19-2004, 03:59 PM

I am currently bugfixing OOTP 6... and I would like to catch as many bugs as possible which have been in the game for several versions. In order to make sure I have them all on my list, please post them here!

Thanks for your help

Treches · 09-19-2004, 04:19 PM

There are a few scenarios in which this happens, but just an example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougaiton

My favourite bug that has never been fixed:

Bottom of the 9th, score tied, bases loaded. Single to the outfield, OF makes error trying to pick it up. 2 runs score. Final score - 2-0. What?

Jayzone · 09-19-2004, 04:20 PM

Markus, thanks for making this thread.

I only started with STB2003. So, I don't know if the below bugs are truly ancient. Please excuse/forgive me if the below are not true ancient bugs.

1. Ghost player issue: Players with no ML experience not retiring properly (not removed from database)

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=70805

2. CSV utility design issue: Inactive player info also generated in CSV

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=69058

Thanks.

JDOldSchool · 09-19-2004, 04:29 PM

Instead of explaining them all over again, here are some links to bug discussion:

RBI improperly credited on throwing error bug:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74084

Sac Fly throwing error bug
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74072

I can't find links, but there are also issues with a pitcher not being given an earned run in some situations. I think the catcher overthrow to second is one of these (sometimes that runner, if he ends up scoring, is an earned run. Sometimes not.)

Then a strange bug in which the loss is attributed to the wrong pitcher that I've only seen once:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=73878

I've had a weird thing where I'll put a player on waivers, he's claimed, and then he ends up staying on my team. Not sure if the AI team is removing their claim or what happens here. It's frustrating because this happened to me in August. I tried trading the player but he was always claimed. Then I tried just waiving him and he was claimed, but never left my team.

Yay for fixing bugs.

jbmagic · 09-19-2004, 04:33 PM

for online league if you release a player during fa Bids in the offseason , the player disappears from the game. not sure of that happens in solo league too

also , the salary report in front office gives false infomation....its so confusing if there going to be free agents or not, especially minor league free agents. it seems like the salary report is going by previous version rules...

also it seems like the cpu teams, dont use there best relievers, it seems like the worse rated relievers gets more innings than the best rated relievers...

also is it possible to have free agents signing enabled or disabled feature for non financial league and anyway to hide the team financial information that show up on the free agents signing screen.

thanks

Malleus Dei · 09-19-2004, 05:22 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=73476

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=72991

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74072

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74062

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=72113

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=73092

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=71964

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=71798

Malleus Dei · 09-19-2004, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

also is it possible to have free agents signing enabled or disabled feature for non financial league and anyway to hide the team financial information that show up on the free agents signing screen.

I cannot endorse these ideas strongly enough.

deadringer · 09-19-2004, 05:50 PM

I know this isn't an ancient bug yet but you please look at the new XP crash with sound on?

akw4572 · 09-19-2004, 05:59 PM

the player ejection fight bug

Eugene Church · 09-19-2004, 06:17 PM

I create my own schedules because the schedule generator is so poor.

I want balanced schedules with same number of games against each opponents and same number home and away...yeah, I am a sick perfectionist.

Please forgive me if this has been fixed in OOTP6. I haven't had to do a schedule for OOTP6...I just use schedules from OOTP5.

Please fix the schedule editor, so that when you delete the 6th game in the left column, it doesn't cause all of the other games in the right column to slide down out of sight and you have to put delete those games and reenter them.

This really is a pain when you are manually doing the schedule.

jbmagic · 09-19-2004, 06:19 PM

markus

anyway to do this...if you switch player role...like starter to middle releiver or left fileld to 1b etc, that it has no bearing when you do extension contract for resign your player....

it will look at what position it played the most at, and go by that for contract extension and not what his primary role is currently set to

Serptine Draft Order not working still
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...serptine+draft

Henry · 09-19-2004, 06:37 PM

Not ancient, but the pitcher editor still needs fixed

kq76 · 09-19-2004, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

anyway to do this...if you switch player role...like starter to middle releiver or left fileld to 1b etc, that it has no bearing when you do extension contract for resign your player....

it will look at what position it played the most at, and go by that for contract extension and not what his primary role is currently set to

I agree that player contract demands (in FA, extensions, arbitration, market adjusting, whatever) should not change when you change primary position (it happens less now with position players, but it is still absolutely atrocious for pitchers with being able to sign all-star calibre SPs to league minimum contracts). However, I strongly disagree that it should look at what position the player has played recently. Take ARod for example, would he willingly take 3B money now when he can still play SS? What if they moved him to 1B or worse, DH? What if someone did that in an online league, played ARod at DH in the last year of his contract year? The other GMs would be mightily peeved, and rightfully so. Exact same thing for pitchers. Player contract demands need to be based on market supply and demand and for most players that will mean that they will demand what they would get paid if their managers fully utilized their capabilities (playing a great player at whatever they are best suited for).

One other thing I found was that if you have a 1B and then go and edit his ratings to a perfect SS (A range, .999 F%), his contract demands will not change one bit. That blew me away. Surely all else equal, a SS is more valuable than a 1B and should therefore demand more money. Contract demands should take defense in mind, at least for the good defensive players at important positions.

EDIT: Markus, thank you very much for looking at all these old issues. It is very much appreciated.

Dan Theman · 09-19-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry

Not ancient, but the pitcher editor still needs fixed

lol - yeah, ancient enough

Also, when entering batter info using csv imports it doesn't copy over everything perfectly well. (most frequently the Gap power)

smeyers003 · 09-19-2004, 09:20 PM

Not sure if this was already fixed or not, but sometimes auto-lineup for minor league teams will clear the lineup instead of create one.

RonCo · 09-19-2004, 11:17 PM

Not sure how ancient it is or if it was fixed in v6, but in V5 if a game is played on a different PC and imported, the minor league games don't get played (hence nno development occurs).

disposableheros · 09-20-2004, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treches

There are a few scenarios in which this happens, but just an example:

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougaiton
My favourite bug that has never been fixed:

Bottom of the 9th, score tied, bases loaded. Single to the outfield, OF makes error trying to pick it up. 2 runs score. Final score - 2-0. What?

maybe ive had too much to drink tonite, but where's the problem?

Crapshoot · 09-20-2004, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposableheros

maybe ive had too much to drink tonite, but where's the problem?

the game's over at 1-0- the second guy wouldnt even bother.

Malleus Dei · 09-20-2004, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposableheros

maybe ive had too much to drink tonite, but where's the problem?

The second run never scores, and isn't counted. The game ends at 1-0.

disposableheros · 09-20-2004, 01:11 AM

oh duh, thanks

09-19-2004, 03:59 PM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	'Ancient' bugs report thread I am currently bugfixing OOTP 6... and I would like to catch as many bugs as possible which have been in the game for several versions. In order to make sure I have them all on my list, please post them here! Thanks for your help Last edited by TC Dale; 09-20-2004 at 12:12 AM.

09-19-2004, 06:17 PM	#10
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,281	I create my own schedules because the schedule generator is so poor. I want balanced schedules with same number of games against each opponents and same number home and away...yeah, I am a sick perfectionist. Please forgive me if this has been fixed in OOTP6. I haven't had to do a schedule for OOTP6...I just use schedules from OOTP5. Please fix the schedule editor, so that when you delete the 6th game in the left column, it doesn't cause all of the other games in the right column to slide down out of sight and you have to put delete those games and reenter them. This really is a pain when you are manually doing the schedule. Last edited by Eugene Church; 09-19-2004 at 06:19 PM.

09-19-2004, 06:19 PM	#11
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	markus anyway to do this...if you switch player role...like starter to middle releiver or left fileld to 1b etc, that it has no bearing when you do extension contract for resign your player.... it will look at what position it played the most at, and go by that for contract extension and not what his primary role is currently set to Serptine Draft Order not working still http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...serptine+draft Last edited by jbmagic; 09-19-2004 at 06:27 PM.

09-19-2004, 04:20 PM	#3
Jayzone All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 706	Markus, thanks for making this thread. I only started with STB2003. So, I don't know if the below bugs are truly ancient. Please excuse/forgive me if the below are not true ancient bugs. 1. Ghost player issue: Players with no ML experience not retiring properly (not removed from database) http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=70805 2. CSV utility design issue: Inactive player info also generated in CSV http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=69058 Thanks.

09-19-2004, 04:29 PM	#4
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Instead of explaining them all over again, here are some links to bug discussion: RBI improperly credited on throwing error bug: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74084 Sac Fly throwing error bug http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=74072 I can't find links, but there are also issues with a pitcher not being given an earned run in some situations. I think the catcher overthrow to second is one of these (sometimes that runner, if he ends up scoring, is an earned run. Sometimes not.) Then a strange bug in which the loss is attributed to the wrong pitcher that I've only seen once: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=73878 I've had a weird thing where I'll put a player on waivers, he's claimed, and then he ends up staying on my team. Not sure if the AI team is removing their claim or what happens here. It's frustrating because this happened to me in August. I tried trading the player but he was always claimed. Then I tried just waiving him and he was claimed, but never left my team. Yay for fixing bugs.

09-19-2004, 04:33 PM	#5
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	for online league if you release a player during fa Bids in the offseason , the player disappears from the game. not sure of that happens in solo league too also , the salary report in front office gives false infomation....its so confusing if there going to be free agents or not, especially minor league free agents. it seems like the salary report is going by previous version rules... also it seems like the cpu teams, dont use there best relievers, it seems like the worse rated relievers gets more innings than the best rated relievers... also is it possible to have free agents signing enabled or disabled feature for non financial league and anyway to hide the team financial information that show up on the free agents signing screen. thanks

09-19-2004, 05:50 PM	#8
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 995	I know this isn't an ancient bug yet but you please look at the new XP crash with sound on?

09-19-2004, 05:59 PM	#9
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	the player ejection fight bug

09-19-2004, 06:37 PM	#12
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Not ancient, but the pitcher editor still needs fixed

09-19-2004, 09:20 PM	#15
smeyers003 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 416	Not sure if this was already fixed or not, but sometimes auto-lineup for minor league teams will clear the lineup instead of create one.

09-19-2004, 11:17 PM	#16
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,510	Not sure how ancient it is or if it was fixed in v6, but in V5 if a game is played on a different PC and imported, the minor league games don't get played (hence nno development occurs).

09-20-2004, 01:11 AM	#20
disposableheros Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,332	oh duh, thanks