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Old 06-06-2023, 08:57 PM   #1
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Relievers Winning Cy Young Too Much

I've seen this a few times across my saves so I thought I'd document this one. Hader wins the Cy Young with 92.2 IP, 1.75 ERA, 3.5 WAR, 3.7 rWAR. Ohtani has 177 IP, 2.59 ERA, 4.9 WAR, 6.6 rWAR. There are over 15 pitchers with a higher rWAR than Hader. I am not in any way opposed to relievers winning the Cy Young, but this seems like a scenario where it shouldn't happen. Furthermore, Ohtani wins the MVP with a 3.3 hitting WAR, which indicates that the MVP voting system seems to weight his pitching achievements more realistically.Name:  Screenshot 2023-06-06 at 8.57.10 PM.jpg
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Old 06-06-2023, 09:29 PM   #2
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You can vote on your awards if you want. I'm not sure if who you vote for is always the winner however. They might be, but it'd be cool if who you vote for could lose to an AI choice. I vote and I can't recall a reliever ever winning the award in my recent lg.
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You can vote on your awards if you want. I'm not sure if who you vote for is always the winner however. They might be, but it'd be cool if who you vote for could lose to an AI choice. I vote and I can't recall a reliever ever winning the award in my recent lg.
Your vote choices are not always the winners, but it is weighted enough that, in this case, it might have made the difference in the deciding point total. I wonder if it a WAR/IP thing.

AFTER backing this one up or saving as a QuickStart so you can pick it back up, maybe put on "Do Not Disturb" in the manager's office and sim for XX years and count the relivers. There was a point in the late 70's/80's when relievers had a moment. Sparky Lyle, Bruce Sutter, Rollie Fingers, Willie Hernandez, Steve Bedrosian, Mark Davis, Eck, etc. Seems these daysthe writers have gotten over it though... Maybe over a longer period of time, it will be less common than it seemingly is in the years just ahead of the current timeline.

Definitely worth mentioning it so others can keep an eye out too to see if it is a pattern of just a few great relievers of this era excelling in the years ahead based on their in-game ratings.
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