Pet Peeve - Isn't batting 5th "middle of the order"???

JerseyPirate · 03-06-2023, 06:02 PM

This still has not been corrected and I'm hoping it is fixed in v24. My catcher in v23 bats 5th and sent me a message saying he should be batting "in the middle of the order". 5th is literally the middle of the order. Please fix this bug. It's annoying. End rant.

Rain King · 03-06-2023, 06:10 PM

I believe it is 3rd/4th that the player is requesting in this circumstance currently.

fifthorkid · 03-07-2023, 06:30 PM

Batting in the 3 or 4 hole is considered "middle of the order"

Cod · 03-07-2023, 08:06 PM

Traditionally and in scouting circles, the middle of the order consists of the 3-4-5 hitters. Not sure if OOTP views it the same or not.

Irrelevant Dude · 03-07-2023, 11:58 PM

"Middle of the order" should be 3-4-5. If it's only 3-4, that really doesn't make sense.

Bobfather · 03-08-2023, 01:12 AM

Middle of the order is a baseball term, not a math problem.

Syd Thrift · 03-08-2023, 01:25 PM

It’s also in OOTP terms meant to mean “I am the most important hitter on your team and I demand to be put in the most important position”. 3rd is actually not as important as cleanup or even 2nd but that’s the perception, 3rd and 4th are where you put your best hitters, with the exact question of who bats where due more to relative power and contact than with relative overall ability.

5th is considered your 2nd best cleanup hitter. That’s still good but I think people can understand why a superstar might not want to be told he’s at best #2 on an 80 win team, right?

Cod · 03-08-2023, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobfather

Middle of the order is a baseball term, not a math problem.

If we were considering it at a math problem, it would be 4-5-6. Nobody has said that as far as I can tell, so not sure what your point was with that statement.

sabin357 · 03-09-2023, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobfather

Middle of the order is a baseball term, not a math problem.

Yeah, & that term has meant the 3, 4, & 5 spots for my entire life. I'm unsure about pre-1980 though.

tonnage · 03-09-2023, 11:30 AM

Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7, 8, 9. LOL!

PSUColonel · 03-09-2023, 08:34 PM

Why isn't this just changed to "Heart of the Order" and encompass 3,4,5. No fuss, no muss.

03-06-2023, 06:02 PM	#1
JerseyPirate Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 172	Pet Peeve - Isn't batting 5th "middle of the order"??? This still has not been corrected and I'm hoping it is fixed in v24. My catcher in v23 bats 5th and sent me a message saying he should be batting "in the middle of the order". 5th is literally the middle of the order. Please fix this bug. It's annoying. End rant.

03-08-2023, 01:12 AM	#6
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,547	Middle of the order is a baseball term, not a math problem. __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

03-06-2023, 06:10 PM	#2
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,067 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	I believe it is 3rd/4th that the player is requesting in this circumstance currently. Last edited by Rain King; 03-06-2023 at 06:11 PM.

03-07-2023, 06:30 PM	#3
fifthorkid Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49	Batting in the 3 or 4 hole is considered "middle of the order"

03-07-2023, 08:06 PM	#4
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,087	Traditionally and in scouting circles, the middle of the order consists of the 3-4-5 hitters. Not sure if OOTP views it the same or not.

03-07-2023, 11:58 PM	#5
Irrelevant Dude Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bourbonnais, IL Posts: 267	"Middle of the order" should be 3-4-5. If it's only 3-4, that really doesn't make sense.

03-09-2023, 11:30 AM	#10
tonnage Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Stony Plain, Alberta Posts: 490	Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7, 8, 9. LOL!

03-09-2023, 08:34 PM	#11
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,094	Why isn't this just changed to "Heart of the Order" and encompass 3,4,5. No fuss, no muss.