oitcher type

jdolecek49 · 03-04-2021, 11:42 PM

Is a a flyball pitcher pretty much bad compared to a groudball pitcher ? my think is a flball pitcher can lead to more homeruns

pgjocki · 03-05-2021, 12:38 AM

I don't think it's that binary. What is his MOV rating and what's his K/9?

I'm willing to give up a HR here and there if the guy has a WHIP under 1.30 and a K/9 above 8.

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joefromchicago · 03-05-2021, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jdolecek49

Is a a flyball pitcher pretty much bad compared to a groudball pitcher ? my think is a flball pitcher can lead to more homeruns

It all depends. If you have a big ballpark and a bunch of infielders who can't catch the ball, then you'd want a flyball pitcher.

Izz · 03-05-2021, 11:53 AM

Flyball pitchers with good outfield defense will often lead to a lower opposition BABIP.

Syd Thrift · 03-05-2021, 12:00 PM

Generally speaking a flyball pitcher will yield a slightly lower BABIP than a groundball pitcher. on the other hand of course one very rarely sees a double play on a flyball. Also in OOTP Movement comes out to HR/PA and not HR/FB as you might expect so while Movement and GB rating are correlated, if you happen to have a flyball pitcher with low MOV the normal issues with a FB pitcher (which is that he’ll give up more dingers) generally does not apply.

md40022 · 03-05-2021, 12:59 PM

A lot of variables go into that. Can't just give a simple yes or no answer.

How big is your home ball park? Flyballs turn to homeruns a lot easier in smaller parks, obviously.

How are the defensive ratings and range ratings of your outfielders compared to your infielders.

How are the throwing arms of your outfielders (more tag-up opportunities with the ball in the air).

What do the everyday lineups look like in your division? Most of your games are played against division opponents, are they all big slugging lineups that hit lots of homers, or are they more so speedy, on-base lineups.

Are either of the flyball / groundball pitchers you are comparing high-strikeout guys? You have to get 27 outs to win a 9 inning game, if one of those pitchers is going to strike out 10 guys and the other pitcher is going to strike out 6 guys, that's 4 less ball being put in play - regardless of flyball or groundball.

I don't mean to over-complicate the answer, but there isn't a simple answer either. Start off by looking at the size of your home ballpark and your teams defensive strengths and weaknesses and go from there.

03-04-2021, 11:42 PM	#1
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pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,669	I don't think it's that binary. What is his MOV rating and what's his K/9? I'm willing to give up a HR here and there if the guy has a WHIP under 1.30 and a K/9 above 8. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

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Izz Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,469	Flyball pitchers with good outfield defense will often lead to a lower opposition BABIP. __________________ Not only do I play OOTP but I also write science-fiction: My Website A brief history of the Australia-New Zealand Baseball League (AUNZBL 2019-2119)--A Dynasty Report The National Penterham Four-Bases Association--A Dynasty Report

03-05-2021, 12:59 PM	#6
md40022 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 740 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	A lot of variables go into that. Can't just give a simple yes or no answer. How big is your home ball park? Flyballs turn to homeruns a lot easier in smaller parks, obviously. How are the defensive ratings and range ratings of your outfielders compared to your infielders. How are the throwing arms of your outfielders (more tag-up opportunities with the ball in the air). What do the everyday lineups look like in your division? Most of your games are played against division opponents, are they all big slugging lineups that hit lots of homers, or are they more so speedy, on-base lineups. Are either of the flyball / groundball pitchers you are comparing high-strikeout guys? You have to get 27 outs to win a 9 inning game, if one of those pitchers is going to strike out 10 guys and the other pitcher is going to strike out 6 guys, that's 4 less ball being put in play - regardless of flyball or groundball. I don't mean to over-complicate the answer, but there isn't a simple answer either. Start off by looking at the size of your home ballpark and your teams defensive strengths and weaknesses and go from there.