Injuries Are Out Of Control

[kcroyalty29]

I am OBSESSED with this game and love it to pieces. I have already recruited four new people to buy and begin playing. So I'm not trying to hate at all.

However, the injuries in this game are getting ridicolous. Before you say "You can turn the setting off" - I know, I know. But I WANT injuries to be a part of this game AND the average person is going to want that, too (and not know how or care enough to turn injuries off).

So with that said, here's an example.

My ENTIRE ROSTER is under 30 years of age - and after 2024, I had NO PLAYER with "fragile" anymore (dumped them all after 2024). So these are young players with no injury history or injury notices.

2024 Royals - 4 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 with Tommy John (out for year), one with torn labrum (out for year) and another out with back problems for 3 months. I chalk that up to bad luck and two guys having "fragile" tags.

2025 Royals - 3 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 of which are new pitchers - both of whom have torn labrums.

2026 Royals - ready for this? 3 of 5 starting pitchers OUT IN SAME WEEK (3 of 4 games in a row) ALL FOR THE YEAR!!!

Ready for more? My 23 year old 3.5 star CF - my 27 year old 4.5 star RF - my 26 year old 3.5 star 1B - and my 3 star 29 year old SS ALL OUT 4 months or more. Two of them with "post concussion syndrome" which in the history of current baseball only kept Justin Morneau out that long. How do two guys get that and both get out for 4 months?

This doesn't even count 3 other players on my 15 Day DL for hamstring soreness or shoulder soreness.

Literally almost half of my 25 man roster is out.These are all players under 30 with no injury history and it's the third straight year it's been bad.

This is just getting dumb. Literally every other day there's another injury.

I don't want to turn them off. I just want to be able to play a normal season with 1 guy needing Tommy John, 2 guys missing two months, 1 guy tearing his ACL, and 3 guys having day to day injuries.

This isn't World War 1 here. You'd think these guys were involved in trench warfare.

Please modify this if possible on any new versions because I'll be playing like crack cocaine for the foreseeable future.

[jimmysthebestcop]

that is just the way the cookie crumbles

[RubeBaker]

Originally Posted by kcroyalty29

I am OBSESSED with this game and love it to pieces. I have already recruited four new people to buy and begin playing. So I'm not trying to hate at all.

However, the injuries in this game are getting ridicolous. Before you say "You can turn the setting off" - I know, I know. But I WANT injuries to be a part of this game AND the average person is going to want that, too (and not know how or care enough to turn injuries off).

So with that said, here's an example.

My ENTIRE ROSTER is under 30 years of age - and after 2024, I had NO PLAYER with "fragile" anymore (dumped them all after 2024). So these are young players with no injury history or injury notices.

2024 Royals - 4 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 with Tommy John (out for year), one with torn labrum (out for year) and another out with back problems for 3 months. I chalk that up to bad luck and two guys having "fragile" tags.

2025 Royals - 3 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 of which are new pitchers - both of whom have torn labrums.

2026 Royals - ready for this? 3 of 5 starting pitchers OUT IN SAME WEEK (3 of 4 games in a row) ALL FOR THE YEAR!!!

Ready for more? My 23 year old 3.5 star CF - my 27 year old 4.5 star RF - my 26 year old 3.5 star 1B - and my 3 star 29 year old SS ALL OUT 4 months or more. Two of them with "post concussion syndrome" which in the history of current baseball only kept Justin Morneau out that long. How do two guys get that and both get out for 4 months?

This doesn't even count 3 other players on my 15 Day DL for hamstring soreness or shoulder soreness.

Literally almost half of my 25 man roster is out.These are all players under 30 with no injury history and it's the third straight year it's been bad.

This is just getting dumb. Literally every other day there's another injury.

I don't want to turn them off. I just want to be able to play a normal season with 1 guy needing Tommy John, 2 guys missing two months, 1 guy tearing his ACL, and 3 guys having day to day injuries.

This isn't World War 1 here. You'd think these guys were involved in trench warfare.

Please modify this if possible on any new versions because I'll be playing like crack cocaine for the foreseeable future.

Sounds like a Royal pain. Seriously, I think you may want to look for a new trainer, but I have seen this happen sometimes with my simulations especially if I set it to "High (Realistic Modern Day)".

If you have a really good trainer, he or she can help rehab players much quicker where instead of 2 months, they could return in 6 weeks.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

that is just the way the cookie crumbles

I second this.

Sometimes you’ll be ravaged by injuries...other times, you may not have any injuries. Really no issues here.


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[SirMichaelJordan]

There are too many batters striking out in my game.

[ohiodevil]

Part of the game.....did you look at the Yankees IL last year? They had an All-Star team on the IL. And the Indians lost 3 of their 5 starters before May.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by kcroyalty29

I am OBSESSED with this game and love it to pieces. I have already recruited four new people to buy and begin playing. So I'm not trying to hate at all.

However, the injuries in this game are getting ridicolous. Before you say "You can turn the setting off" - I know, I know. But I WANT injuries to be a part of this game AND the average person is going to want that, too (and not know how or care enough to turn injuries off).

So with that said, here's an example.

My ENTIRE ROSTER is under 30 years of age - and after 2024, I had NO PLAYER with "fragile" anymore (dumped them all after 2024). So these are young players with no injury history or injury notices.

2024 Royals - 4 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 with Tommy John (out for year), one with torn labrum (out for year) and another out with back problems for 3 months. I chalk that up to bad luck and two guys having "fragile" tags.

2025 Royals - 3 of 5 starting pitchers out 3 months or more - 2 of which are new pitchers - both of whom have torn labrums.

2026 Royals - ready for this? 3 of 5 starting pitchers OUT IN SAME WEEK (3 of 4 games in a row) ALL FOR THE YEAR!!!

Ready for more? My 23 year old 3.5 star CF - my 27 year old 4.5 star RF - my 26 year old 3.5 star 1B - and my 3 star 29 year old SS ALL OUT 4 months or more. Two of them with "post concussion syndrome" which in the history of current baseball only kept Justin Morneau out that long. How do two guys get that and both get out for 4 months?

This doesn't even count 3 other players on my 15 Day DL for hamstring soreness or shoulder soreness.

Literally almost half of my 25 man roster is out.These are all players under 30 with no injury history and it's the third straight year it's been bad.

This is just getting dumb. Literally every other day there's another injury.

I don't want to turn them off. I just want to be able to play a normal season with 1 guy needing Tommy John, 2 guys missing two months, 1 guy tearing his ACL, and 3 guys having day to day injuries.

This isn't World War 1 here. You'd think these guys were involved in trench warfare.

Please modify this if possible on any new versions because I'll be playing like crack cocaine for the foreseeable future.

Can't take any complaint about injuries seriously that only considers injuries to their team.

If the overall league injuries are too high, that's one thing.

If it's just complaining "my players are injured", that's another.

That it's only a few people complaining about this is pretty strong evidence that it's not a systemic problem in the game

[BBGiovanni]

Is it time for this thread again already this year? If like me you don't like reality (actually slightly less bad than reality, "OOTP classic" is one step better than reality), turn the injury slider down. That's why it's there.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Can't take any complaint about injuries seriously that only considers injuries to their team.

If the overall league injuries are too high, that's one thing.

If it's just complaining "my players are injured", that's another.

That it's only a few people complaining about this is pretty strong evidence that it's not a systemic problem in the game

agreed. people only post extreme cases, to their own team, and theres only a handful of these threads per year. and thats over thousands of saves and a vast number of seasons. thats just how it is sometimes.

[henry296]

Last year only 61 pitchers pitched 162 innings to qualify for the ERA title.

[kcroyalty29]

I can see your points.

But 3-6 months for concussions? This is baseball. That has literally happened to one player in MLB history - Justin Morneau. How are my two stars getting them in the same week for that long?Can we at least take concussions out of the game, it's not the NFL.

My trainer is rated as GREAT.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by kcroyalty29

I can see your points.

But 3-6 months for concussions? This is baseball. That has literally happened to one player in MLB history - Justin Morneau. How are my two stars getting them in the same week for that long?Can we at least take concussions out of the game, it's not the NFL.

My trainer is rated as GREAT.

Maybe durations could be looked at any maybe could use a tiny bit of tweaking, sure. But concussions definitely happen in baseball and should 100% stay.

Actually though, I would LOVE for there to be a concussion protocol and have the trainer initially say he's out for a couple days or so and then keep reporting back that he still hasnt passed until he's back to 100%. Concussions are unlike any other injury. With normal injuries you usually get an initial timeframe of when you can expect to see the player return, but with concussions you really dont know until the player stops showing signs.

I mean, you always see "tommy john, out for 12-16 months" or "stress fracture, out 3-4 weeks." But, you never see "concussion, out for 4 weeks."

[jimmysthebestcop]

Remember it's your game, your universe. If it isn't fun edit their injuries away.

This isn't a game against a big boss or some unknown evil. Its mostly stats and numbers. The human player will always dominate once his skill level adapts to game mechanics.

Kinda like cities skylines. That game is a map painter. Your only obstacle is your imagination.

Ootp is in the same vein once you grasp the mechanics it will be no challenge. You can make the world series basically every year.

So you play ootp for fun. If those injuries take away from your entertainment do away with them.

[Dyzalot]

Originally Posted by itsmb8

I mean, you always see "tommy john, out for 12-16 months" or "stress fracture, out 3-4 weeks." But, you never see "concussion, out for 4 weeks."

I've seen concussions in previous versions. And as for the OP, I play with injuries on "high" and haven't noticed anything unusual so far.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

I've seen concussions in previous versions. And as for the OP, I play with injuries on "high" and haven't noticed anything unusual so far.

No, i mean IRL you never see a specific return timetable for concussions. Its almost always day-2-day, week-2-week, or just indefinitely.

[Number5]

I had during my last season nothing more than "2 days finger blister" or something, which of course is very crippling for a starter that has his next start in 5 days anyway. Didn't move a single starter to the IL.



Just want to point it out, for every player that gets ****ed, 10 more get normal injuries and 5 get lucky.

[CBL-Commish]

Originally Posted by kcroyalty29

I can see your points.

But 3-6 months for concussions? This is baseball. That has literally happened to one player in MLB history - Justin Morneau. How are my two stars getting them in the same week for that long?Can we at least take concussions out of the game, it's not the NFL.

My trainer is rated as GREAT.

Brian Roberts absent-mindedly clunked himself on the batting helmet after striking out sometime in 2010, gave himself a concussion, and for all intents and purposes that ended his productive career.

[CBL-Commish]

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

I've seen concussions in previous versions. And as for the OP, I play with injuries on "high" and haven't noticed anything unusual so far.

We've discussed this at length over the evolution of the many versions of OOTP. The issue is that lots of people really don't like a) injury rates that correspond to measured reality, and b) the fact the "random" means that every once in a while your team might get three starters go down in 10 days.

That's why reality-based injuries aren't hard-coded, but instead have a slider.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by kcroyalty29

I can see your points.

But 3-6 months for concussions? This is baseball. That has literally happened to one player in MLB history - Justin Morneau. How are my two stars getting them in the same week for that long?Can we at least take concussions out of the game, it's not the NFL.

My trainer is rated as GREAT.

LMFAO, no. Mickey Cochrane comes to mind, Dickie Thon missed time with an eye injury but was initially concussed as well, Tony Conigliaro... I guess one could make an argument that in years past they’d just tell a player to rub some dirt on it and go out and play, but in the modern era concussions are treated very seriously, as they should be.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

LMFAO, no. Mickey Cochrane comes to mind, Dickie Thon missed time with an eye injury but was initially concussed as well, Tony Conigliaro... I guess one could make an argument that in years past they’d just tell a player to rub some dirt on it and go out and play, but in the modern era concussions are treated very seriously, as they should be.

Let’s not forget Ray Chapman died as a result of a pitch to the head...


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