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10-11-2014, 10:24 AM | #1 |
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'Stopper' role available regardless of era
When setting up my bullpen for online leagues I am a big fan of the 'stopper' role instead of the 'closer' role. But whether the 'stopper' role is available for use or not seems to be dependent on 'when' the league is taking place. I'd like to see ALL of the available roles available all the time for at least non-historical leagues.
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10-11-2014, 05:35 PM | #2 |
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I agree. I get why they tied it to an era, but individual teams, especially human players, should have the possibility of using a different bullpen setup if they choose to.
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10-11-2014, 06:27 PM | #4 |
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I believe, others can/will correct me if I'm wrong, that a closer comes in at the end of the game to protect a small lead whereas a stopper comes in when the game is on the line even if it isn't at the end. So you are up by 2 runs and your opponent gets a couple on with the meat of their lineup coming up in the 7th. You bring in your 'stopper' then because this is the key point in the game rather than saving your best reliever for the 9th for the save because if you don't stop them now your closer won't have anything to close in the 9th.
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10-11-2014, 06:28 PM | #5 |
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Sure, for historical games do it as they would have been done in the time period but in a fictional world let me have the choice of all the roles available in the game.
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10-11-2014, 07:12 PM | #6 |
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I'd be more inclined to buy into this if some real life examples could be shown.
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I'm guessing it is the last 2 digits of the year that make them available or not...the example below is in the year 2074 (game seeing 74?) but the role isn't available in 2008. Last edited by byzeil; 10-11-2014 at 09:00 PM. |
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10-11-2014, 09:20 PM | #8 |
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It similar to a set-up man then In today's modern ball? And in a historical league do stoppers and closers both exist in the game?
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As for the definition, especially in-game, I am really only guessing what it is in OOTP as I can't say I have seen a definitive definition. Last edited by byzeil; 10-11-2014 at 09:34 PM. |
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10-11-2014, 09:41 PM | #10 |
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I have never seen stopper role. I am in fictional league in 1969 plan to go 150 years would it show up for me in the future?
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I did see in another thread HERE that changing the league setting "Use of closers" to 'rare' will make the stopper role available. It may do that but in the example I posted above the 'use of closers' is set to 'normal' so that setting isn't the only way to make stopper available.
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Stopper
This term originally referred to a team's best starting pitcher, who would be called upon to stop a losing streak. It can also refers to a team's closer. Headline: "Tigers ace Verlander again stellar in stopper role". "José Valverde – The Stopper. Despite him giving us a few heart-attacks this season, Papa Grande has not blown a save this year, not a one".
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Earlier you asked if stoppers and closers co-existed. I suppose in a way they kind of did. That is, you could bring your stopper in in the 6th or 7th inning, maybe stay for the 8th and then bring in another guy for the 9th and that last guy would be the closer. But closers more evolved from stoppers. Certainly closers nowadays, rightfully or not, are often known as a team's best relief pitcher, but back then your stopper was undoubtedly known as your best reliever. I have a book or read somewhere online the history and evolution of stoppers to closers. It was a fascinating read. If I remember where it was I'll mention it later. Maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about.
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I think closers should pitch starting from the 7th
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Wanted to bump this request/suggestion for OOTP18. Have the Stopper bullpen role available in all leagues regardless of the time period the league is based. If that would interfere with historical simulations then maybe restrict them then but in my fictional league in 2084 I'd like to be able to have the option of using all the different roles available in-game.
Haven't looked at it lately but there was a suggestion early in the thread that setting closer use to rare made the stopper role available but what it I don't want closer use rare for everyone but want to use the stopper model of setting up my bullpen. |
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I really wish there were more bullpen strategy options in ootp other than roles. I mean how does the AI replicate what happened in this year's postseason without the user changing the ai settings prior to each postseason?
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Considering that reliever usage may be the single biggest change we've seen to baseball in the last few years (and the contracts in free agency that relievers are getting show how much teams think of them at the moment), I can't help but agree that there needs to be more options on how a team (human or AI) can set up its bullpen.
I wonder, when OOTP AI teams set their strategies, do they set them solely according to the management's preferences or do they also set them according to the players they have under contract? For example, if you have someone like Andrew Miller, then you probably want to use him a lot, especially in the post season, but if you don't then heavily using one guy as a stopper probably doesn't make much sense. Besides reliever usage, I could see reason for some teams doing it one way and some another as I'm sure some managements in real life want to do things their way regardless of whom they have under contract. Maybe the smartest way to do it is to set short-term tactics based on whom you currently have, but set long-term strategy (who you will sign in FA) based on the team you want to have based on manager preferences.
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