Why should my league switch to V12?

[GhillieSuited]

Little Help,
I’m curious to find out why the league I am in should switch to V12?
Is it really worth losing a percentage of owners who won’t or can’t afford to upgrade?
What are the benefits of forcing everyone to buy V12?

Thanks in advance

[coljesep]

I know I'm likely a minority on this but here's my take

If your league is successful, and you're totally happy with your participation of owners then I wouldn't switch to 12. That's probably just me though. Tons of people like switching almost like a new version of Madden. It's just commonplace for them to upgrade their league.

For me, if I'm in a league where all owners are involved and or if one leaves we are replacing them quickly... then I don't see the need to change. At some point to ME I want the league I'm in to be about the 20+ owners making it great and not relying on the sim engine to constantly make changes to make it great.

Hope that makes sense...

[TribeFanInNC]

The main reason you switch is for recruitment. The farther you get away from the release of 12, the harder it will be to find people to fill the inevitable holes in your league. By the time 13 comes out, almost nobody will still be playing v11. There generally aren't a lot of feature related reasons, though the new official OOTP leagues could be a worthwhile reason to switch.

If you have the same 16 guys that never leave, then you can stay on whatever version you want. But I haven't seen many leagues operate that way. Maybe some of the last few v6.5 leagues.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by GhillieSuited

Little Help,
I’m curious to find out why the league I am in should switch to V12?
Is it really worth losing a percentage of owners who won’t or can’t afford to upgrade?
What are the benefits of forcing everyone to buy V12?

Thanks in advance

Who's forcing anyone to do anything?

Wait until the game is out, patches have been made and engage your league in a dialogue about the merits of changing.

Early days yet.

[coljesep]

I can tell you I'm in a league that uses 6.5 still. That's what 4 versions behind, 5 counting OOTP12? But the ownership is maintained and the recruiting of new owners when needed comes from the owners. So it works and I don't think they'd ever switch to be honest.

But I agree that if you're gonna switch the day OOTP 12 comes out then the only reason to do that is for recruitment purposes. If you're struggling to fill your 10 or 11 league, imagine how tough it will be when 12 comes out

[fhomess]

Originally Posted by coljesep

I can tell you I'm in a league that uses 6.5 still. That's what 4 versions behind, 5 counting OOTP12? But the ownership is maintained and the recruiting of new owners when needed comes from the owners. So it works and I don't think they'd ever switch to be honest.

But I agree that if you're gonna switch the day OOTP 12 comes out then the only reason to do that is for recruitment purposes. If you're struggling to fill your 10 or 11 league, imagine how tough it will be when 12 comes out

Filling a OOTP6.5 league is different. That version of the game was the last version before the rewrite, which a number of people prefer to the new game engine. The difference between OOTP9, 10, or 11 and OOTP12 is small enough that there will not be the same level of attachment to the older version. I think OOTP11 leagues will be reasonably easy to recruit for until OOTP13 comes out, though. Usually, there's enough people who still have a copy of the older game that you're only missing out on those new to the OOTP franchise.

[coljesep]

I'm newer to the fine details of the OOTP World, is that to say that OOTP 12 is the last of this "series" and the next OOTP will be completely different compared to 10-11-12 whereas 11-12 just advanced slightly on items in previous versions?

[coljesep]

bump, just lookin for an answer on this if anybody knows?

[Syd Thrift]

I don't think Markus has said anything about what he'll be doing with OOTP13. I imagine he'll be crossing that bridge when he came to it. That being said, I don't see any particular reason why he won't be continuing along with the same engine/interface/etc. Unlike 6.5, it doesn't seem to be broken to the point where a rebuild would be easier than an update.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by coljesep

I'm newer to the fine details of the OOTP World, is that to say that OOTP 12 is the last of this "series"

I can't imagine how you come to think this.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OOTP 12 will focus on financials, immersion and AI improvements.

But OOTP 13 will feature something which I wanted to do for years, a really cool 2D/3D representation engine (with stadium builder etc, which will be a modders dream). In fact, that thing is already in development...

Markus posted some of his plans for OOTP 13 already.

[robc]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I don't think Markus has said anything about what he'll be doing with OOTP13. I imagine he'll be crossing that bridge when he came to it. That being said, I don't see any particular reason why he won't be continuing along with the same engine/interface/etc. Unlike 6.5, it doesn't seem to be broken to the point where a rebuild would be easier than an update.

It sounds like there will be some engine rewrite around version 14:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3083646

[coljesep]

thanks for the info!

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by RchW

I can't imagine how you come to think this.

Well, I would imagine that OOTP13 will be coming out in the spring of 2012 and we all know what's going down in 2012.

[griffeyin98]

The biggest thing I see for the league I commish is the improved online security and settings as well as it being a "patch" instead of a league file, that and the reports going SQL will greatly reduce the webspace it takes and the time it takes to upload the sim and run the reports

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by robc

It sounds like there will be some engine rewrite around version 14:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3083646

Makes me wonder how much of the engine will be rewritten.