Do good players performing well ever demand trades?

ctorg · 11-01-2007, 08:35 AM

Not that players can really "demand" trades, but those e-mails do come in the game. But always from washed up vets who should know better than to think they are still capable of starting. I've never seen a guy who is at the top of his game get unhappy enough to ask for a trade or get those news items speculating about his unhappiness. It seems to me that in real life, it wouldn't be much of a story if a guy hitting .190 in 50 AB in June was rumored to be unhappy with the team. But you do hear in real life about guys who want out but are doing well.

SandMan · 11-01-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

Not that players can really "demand" trades, but those e-mails do come in the game. But always from washed up vets who should know better than to think they are still capable of starting. I've never seen a guy who is at the top of his game get unhappy enough to ask for a trade or get those news items speculating about his unhappiness. It seems to me that in real life, it wouldn't be much of a story if a guy hitting .190 in 50 AB in June was rumored to be unhappy with the team. But you do hear in real life about guys who want out but are doing well.

Wow - great discussions on the forums today.....

I get a lot of guys that are good and won't re-sign with my teams, but not many good players demanding trades. They wait until I can't trade them and then state they won't sign....

Would be cool to have a hidden value that has a list of teams that the player would not want to be part of and this would affect his playing morale, demands for trading him and the ability to re-sign him...... Now this should not be a value for every player, just a few of the good to very good - the guys that have the attitudes in real life.....

Assos · 11-01-2007, 09:28 AM

I have had a couple of times a hitter complain that he needed to be higher up in the order. He was batting fifth and I think he was hinting at a clean up spot. Nothing really about a trade.

zekester91 · 11-01-2007, 10:41 AM

I've had it happen a few times with my team, normally it will happen to me when I have an aging player embedded into a position and I am worrying that he will decline, so I get a high profile young player to replace him, then the aging vet has one last good season in him, and the free agent I hired to replace him gets tired of waiting to be put into the line up. I've never seen the AI run into that problem though. currently I have that situation on one of my teams, he has 4 years left on his contract. I'm hoping by the time he gets close to free agency that he will be happier, I plan on using him, it's just the guy in front of him isn't ready to leave yet and is still earning the playing time.

zekester91 · 11-02-2007, 12:11 PM

Dola,

In the week I just finnished a 25 year old David Ortiz just asked for a trade on a AI controled team. but that is more of him being in the wrong league, He was traded there halfway through last season to fill in for an injury (not by my it was two computer control teams making the trade) and now that his power numbers are rising, and the injured player is back, he wants on a team that will allow him to play everyday, and since this league is much more of a single/double league (the league lead in hr last season was 3, my whole team only hit 2) just about everyone on the team is a better "hitter", so he is only getting the PH duties and is very unhappy about it.

So it is possible to see great young players "demand" trades, but it's rare, and takes a lot of other things to happen.

darkcloud4579 · 11-02-2007, 12:36 PM

I will often try to simulate this with teams, moving guys who are "unhappy" or whatever, because it makes for a better storyline. I make sure to watch them, because the game often has these guys going back to teams they spent significant time with, but then, maybe it can be a Griffey-like story where he's embraced or whatever.

DrSatan · 11-03-2007, 06:24 AM

I get it from guys who are stars and want to be a closer or play higher in the lineup. The closer thing happens a lot, but I play with moral off, which means they're pleas are falling on deaf ears. Mwahahahahahah

southpaw22 · 11-03-2007, 08:47 AM

I get the guys who complain because they want to be closers as well. They all inevitably start to get shelled. Coincidence? I think not.

SandMan · 11-03-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by southpaw22

I get the guys who complain because they want to be closers as well. They all inevitably start to get shelled. Coincidence? I think not.

I had 3 guys demand to be closers. I rotated them every week into the closer spot, they all started to get shelled......

Coincidence? Maybe.

ctorg · 11-04-2007, 10:42 AM

What I'm really looking for is an instance of a player that gets good playing time with a team and does well, but still wants to be traded. I'm thinking of those news stories about guys who have no business demanding anything but are demanding trades. Perhaps it is just that washed up old guys who are hitting .190 in AAA are too demanding.

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Originally Posted by zekester91

Dola,

In the week I just finnished a 25 year old David Ortiz just asked for a trade on a AI controled team. but that is more of him being in the wrong league, He was traded there halfway through last season to fill in for an injury (not by my it was two computer control teams making the trade) and now that his power numbers are rising, and the injured player is back, he wants on a team that will allow him to play everyday, and since this league is much more of a single/double league (the league lead in hr last season was 3, my whole team only hit 2) just about everyone on the team is a better "hitter", so he is only getting the PH duties and is very unhappy about it.

So it is possible to see great young players "demand" trades, but it's rare, and takes a lot of other things to happen.

This relates to an issue I've had with the game in that it doesn't handle deadball era stuff all that well. Granted, it would probably be hard to make the game aware of the era, but it would be nice if high power scores didn't count for as much when playing in deadball eras and counted more in power-heavy eras (since a guy with massive power to hit maybe 8 homers in a year isn't much more useful than the average power guys who hit 4 or 5 in deadball).

11-01-2007, 08:35 AM	#1
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Do good players performing well ever demand trades? Not that players can really "demand" trades, but those e-mails do come in the game. But always from washed up vets who should know better than to think they are still capable of starting. I've never seen a guy who is at the top of his game get unhappy enough to ask for a trade or get those news items speculating about his unhappiness. It seems to me that in real life, it wouldn't be much of a story if a guy hitting .190 in 50 AB in June was rumored to be unhappy with the team. But you do hear in real life about guys who want out but are doing well. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

11-01-2007, 10:41 AM	#4
zekester91 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,122	I've had it happen a few times with my team, normally it will happen to me when I have an aging player embedded into a position and I am worrying that he will decline, so I get a high profile young player to replace him, then the aging vet has one last good season in him, and the free agent I hired to replace him gets tired of waiting to be put into the line up. I've never seen the AI run into that problem though. currently I have that situation on one of my teams, he has 4 years left on his contract. I'm hoping by the time he gets close to free agency that he will be happier, I plan on using him, it's just the guy in front of him isn't ready to leave yet and is still earning the playing time. __________________ Bobby Bowden must have a hell of a recruiting pitch, "Son if you come on down to Tallahasee, you just might be able to watch me die during practice!" The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken.

11-02-2007, 12:11 PM	#5
zekester91 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,122	Dola, In the week I just finnished a 25 year old David Ortiz just asked for a trade on a AI controled team. but that is more of him being in the wrong league, He was traded there halfway through last season to fill in for an injury (not by my it was two computer control teams making the trade) and now that his power numbers are rising, and the injured player is back, he wants on a team that will allow him to play everyday, and since this league is much more of a single/double league (the league lead in hr last season was 3, my whole team only hit 2) just about everyone on the team is a better "hitter", so he is only getting the PH duties and is very unhappy about it. So it is possible to see great young players "demand" trades, but it's rare, and takes a lot of other things to happen. __________________ Bobby Bowden must have a hell of a recruiting pitch, "Son if you come on down to Tallahasee, you just might be able to watch me die during practice!" The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken.

11-02-2007, 12:36 PM	#6
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	I will often try to simulate this with teams, moving guys who are "unhappy" or whatever, because it makes for a better storyline. I make sure to watch them, because the game often has these guys going back to teams they spent significant time with, but then, maybe it can be a Griffey-like story where he's embraced or whatever. __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

11-01-2007, 09:28 AM	#3
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I have had a couple of times a hitter complain that he needed to be higher up in the order. He was batting fifth and I think he was hinting at a clean up spot. Nothing really about a trade.

11-03-2007, 06:24 AM	#7
DrSatan All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 590	I get it from guys who are stars and want to be a closer or play higher in the lineup. The closer thing happens a lot, but I play with moral off, which means they're pleas are falling on deaf ears. Mwahahahahahah

11-03-2007, 08:47 AM	#8
southpaw22 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34	I get the guys who complain because they want to be closers as well. They all inevitably start to get shelled. Coincidence? I think not.