This can't be a coincidence, can it?

Doughnuts? · 05-16-2007, 02:28 PM

In my historical replay I have seen, time and again, older players hanging on through severely diminished ratings seemingly in order to achieve a particular milestone, ie; 3,000 hits, 300 wins etc. Once the achievement has been reached, they retire that post season. It's happened so many times that I find it hard to believe its just a happy coincidence.

btw, I ain't complaining. I think its great.

Getch · 05-16-2007, 02:35 PM

Someone in Beta brought this up. Whether Markus actually coded it, I don't know. I didn't see a TT on it, so my guess is that it is a coincidence.

Doughnuts? · 05-16-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Getch

Someone in Beta brought this up. Whether Markus actually coded it, I don't know. I didn't see a TT on it, so my guess is that it is a coincidence.

Considering how many times I've seen it, I would be shocked if it were just a coincidence. My money says it was coded in.

Go Middies · 05-16-2007, 03:23 PM

Rightfully so. See Bonds, Barry; Rose, Pete.

Dagrims · 05-16-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Middies

Rightfully so. See Bonds, Barry; Rose, Pete.

Bonds isn't exactly "hanging on through severely diminished ratings".

Assos · 05-16-2007, 03:32 PM

I think it is great. And it is so true.

See Mac, Bernie..... Mr. 3000

OmahaBaseball · 05-16-2007, 03:32 PM

I hope it is programed that the players try and hang on to get to that magic number - provided that the AI uses the player correctly and does not allow a 40 something to start all 162 games with ratings of 2's when they have a 20 something with 9's riding the pine.

Melo · 05-16-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

Bonds isn't exactly "hanging on through severely diminished ratings".

Well, he would have been if not for...well...you know...

Curtis · 05-16-2007, 04:41 PM

This was a feature requested for 2007, so it would be a remarkable coincidence if it wasn't coded in.

discodude5 · 05-16-2007, 08:34 PM

I used to hate when guys with decent enough ratings would retire with 495 hr or something.

Oh and by the way how many hits is Julio Franco away from 3000? Now there's a guy who seems to be hanging on for some reason, gotta be trying to get 3000 hits...lol

CMH · 05-16-2007, 08:38 PM

For those people experiencing it do you have numbers in your HOF Requirements?

Just curious if perhaps this has to do with those numbers and the AI being aware of a player closing in on it.

Doughnuts? · 05-16-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

For those people experiencing it do you have numbers in your HOF Requirements?

Just curious if perhaps this has to do with those numbers and the AI being aware of a player closing in on it.

You know, that's not a bad thought...but I'm pretty sure I've seen it happen with numbers above the HOF requirements. Like Cobb with 4,000 hits, etc.

DrArbiter · 05-17-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

You know, that's not a bad thought...but I'm pretty sure I've seen it happen with numbers above the HOF requirements. Like Cobb with 4,000 hits, etc.

Before we go too far into this, are you sure it's not just selective observation -- you notice these guys more, because they're stars?

Curtis · 05-17-2007, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by discodude5

Oh and by the way how many hits is Julio Franco away from 3000? Now there's a guy who seems to be hanging on for some reason, gotta be trying to get 3000 hits...lol

He's trying to play to the age of fifty. He doesn't much care how many hits he has, as long as he gets enough each year that he can find a place to play the next year. He holds the records for oldest guy to hit a homer and steal a base, and he'd like to put them permanently out of reach.

Syd Thrift · 05-17-2007, 02:44 AM

I think it's way simpler than that. I think he's just trying to get paid to play baseball for as long as he can. From what I gather, if he still had the ability to play major league baseball, Rickey Henderson would still be wearing a uniform as well.

Curtis · 05-17-2007, 03:32 AM

That's true about Rickey (and I think he could've played another year or two).

As for Julio Franco, I was going by an interview he did when he signed a two year contract with the Mets prior to 2006. In it he said he was asking for a three year deal because his goal was to play to age fifty, but the Mets were the only team that offered more than a single year, which is why he signed with them even though they made it clear he wouldn't start (which he had done the year before with the Braves).

By the way, is it true that El Duque is 92? {insert 'innocent eyes' smilie here}

Doughnuts? · 05-17-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DrArbiter

Before we go too far into this, are you sure it's not just selective observation -- you notice these guys more, because they're stars?

Well, the fact of the matter is, in an historical replay, the guys who reach 300 wins and 500 HR's are the stars, so....

orwell · 05-17-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

Bonds isn't exactly "hanging on through severely diminished ratings".

Nope, he's hanging on through severely enhanced 'roids technology.

CMH · 05-17-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DrArbiter

Before we go too far into this, are you sure it's not just selective observation -- you notice these guys more, because they're stars?

Wouldn't it only be stars that close in on those numbers, though?

LASpirit · 05-18-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by orwell

Nope, he's hanging on through severely enhanced 'roids technology.

You're right. I'm still surprised that MLB is allowing Bonds to continue playing considering how many times he's failed the drug testing. Its too bad, b/c there's no way he'd have an OPS >1.000 if he wasn't juicing...

05-16-2007, 02:28 PM	#1
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	This can't be a coincidence, can it? In my historical replay I have seen, time and again, older players hanging on through severely diminished ratings seemingly in order to achieve a particular milestone, ie; 3,000 hits, 300 wins etc. Once the achievement has been reached, they retire that post season. It's happened so many times that I find it hard to believe its just a happy coincidence. btw, I ain't complaining. I think its great.

05-16-2007, 02:35 PM	#2
Getch All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 868	Someone in Beta brought this up. Whether Markus actually coded it, I don't know. I didn't see a TT on it, so my guess is that it is a coincidence. __________________ Get the OOTP Online Utilities for online leagues! Includes Gamecast, Development, Live Sims, Voting and more. Check here for more details

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OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,873	I hope it is programed that the players try and hang on to get to that magic number - provided that the AI uses the player correctly and does not allow a 40 something to start all 162 games with ratings of 2's when they have a 20 something with 9's riding the pine. __________________ Life is Good!

05-16-2007, 03:23 PM	#4
Go Middies Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lindsay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 87	Rightfully so. See Bonds, Barry; Rose, Pete.

05-16-2007, 03:32 PM	#6
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I think it is great. And it is so true. See Mac, Bernie..... Mr. 3000

05-16-2007, 04:41 PM	#9
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	This was a feature requested for 2007, so it would be a remarkable coincidence if it wasn't coded in.

05-16-2007, 08:34 PM	#10
discodude5 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 370	I used to hate when guys with decent enough ratings would retire with 495 hr or something. Oh and by the way how many hits is Julio Franco away from 3000? Now there's a guy who seems to be hanging on for some reason, gotta be trying to get 3000 hits...lol

05-16-2007, 08:38 PM	#11
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	For those people experiencing it do you have numbers in your HOF Requirements? Just curious if perhaps this has to do with those numbers and the AI being aware of a player closing in on it.

05-17-2007, 03:32 AM	#16
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	That's true about Rickey (and I think he could've played another year or two). As for Julio Franco, I was going by an interview he did when he signed a two year contract with the Mets prior to 2006. In it he said he was asking for a three year deal because his goal was to play to age fifty, but the Mets were the only team that offered more than a single year, which is why he signed with them even though they made it clear he wouldn't start (which he had done the year before with the Braves). By the way, is it true that El Duque is 92? {insert 'innocent eyes' smilie here}