OOTP vs. Baseball Mogul & other sims...

DanielW4444 · 12-20-2005, 02:17 AM

I'm probably gonna buy one of these next year and I was wondering which one has the most complete player development system. The game that has the best scouting, drafting and developing prospects and stuff.

Thanks for your time

darkhorse · 12-20-2005, 02:38 AM

OOTP has no real competition in the baseball text sim market.

This game is pretty solid.

http://www.puresim.com/

kq76 · 12-20-2005, 03:26 AM

With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above).

If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date.

LeiterFanatic · 12-20-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above).

If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date.

I was going to reply but he said everything I would have. I think Puresim has improved tremendously while OOTP6, 6.51 etc . is mostly version 5 redone and tweaked. I also think OOTPBM06 will be an entirely new animal and better, if FM06 is any guide.

edddgar · 12-20-2005, 10:19 AM

I was in a mogul sim for about a total of two sims, it was far from OOTP.

Russ · 12-20-2005, 10:43 AM

Yeah, the only one even close is PureSim. Shaun Sullivan is doing some good things over there. But, for my money OOTP is the best. And if you play any of the other SI games (EHM or FM), you know that OOTPBM is going to blow away all the previous versions and the competition.

RchW · 12-20-2005, 11:27 AM

I find Puresim's interface really thick and difficult to navigate. I could never maintain my interest in the detail required to start a league. However I'll grant that my time spent on Puresim has been minimal. What does it for OOTP IMO is the simplicity of the interface over the player development algorithm. I quickly found out that fictional leagues were much more satisfying to me. Watching a big time prospect tank or a medium talent 8th round pick become a solid player later in his career is great. I'm not saying Puresim can't do it, I just never got that far.

One concern I have about OOTP BM2006 is the level of complexity may reduce the ease of just simming or just playing the game.

Malleus Dei · 12-20-2005, 03:46 PM

Diamond Mind Baseball is the most detailed and most accurate baseball text sim in existence. It is season-based and stat-based, however. I've been playing it since it first came out. It's great.

Check it out for yourself:

http://www.diamond-mind.com/products/index.html

Davey Eckstein · 12-20-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Diamond Mind Baseball is the most detailed and most accurate baseball text sim in existence. It is season-based and stat-based, however. I've been playing it since it first came out. It's great.

And only costs an arm and a leg!

sporr · 12-20-2005, 05:57 PM

If you are looking for ultra-realistic past-season simulations, Diamond Mind is probably what you need. However, it sounds like you want some "career" mode to go from one season to the next. OOTPBM will likely be light-years ahead of any competition out there in this regard. Heck, it's going to likely be light-years ahead of OOTP6 which is already the best IMO.

Malleus Dei · 12-20-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Eckstein

And only costs an arm and a leg!

And is worth it.

12-20-2005, 02:17 AM	#1
DanielW4444 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 21	OOTP vs. Baseball Mogul & other sims... I'm probably gonna buy one of these next year and I was wondering which one has the most complete player development system. The game that has the best scouting, drafting and developing prospects and stuff. Thanks for your time

12-20-2005, 02:38 AM	#2
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	OOTP has no real competition in the baseball text sim market. This game is pretty solid. http://www.puresim.com/ __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan." Last edited by darkhorse; 12-20-2005 at 02:39 AM.

12-20-2005, 03:26 AM	#3
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,805	With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above). If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

12-20-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	I find Puresim's interface really thick and difficult to navigate. I could never maintain my interest in the detail required to start a league. However I'll grant that my time spent on Puresim has been minimal. What does it for OOTP IMO is the simplicity of the interface over the player development algorithm. I quickly found out that fictional leagues were much more satisfying to me. Watching a big time prospect tank or a medium talent 8th round pick become a solid player later in his career is great. I'm not saying Puresim can't do it, I just never got that far. One concern I have about OOTP BM2006 is the level of complexity may reduce the ease of just simming or just playing the game. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-20-2005, 10:19 AM	#5
edddgar Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 254	I was in a mogul sim for about a total of two sims, it was far from OOTP.

12-20-2005, 10:43 AM	#6
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Yeah, the only one even close is PureSim. Shaun Sullivan is doing some good things over there. But, for my money OOTP is the best. And if you play any of the other SI games (EHM or FM), you know that OOTPBM is going to blow away all the previous versions and the competition.

12-20-2005, 05:57 PM	#10
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	If you are looking for ultra-realistic past-season simulations, Diamond Mind is probably what you need. However, it sounds like you want some "career" mode to go from one season to the next. OOTPBM will likely be light-years ahead of any competition out there in this regard. Heck, it's going to likely be light-years ahead of OOTP6 which is already the best IMO.