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Old 07-26-2012, 11:51 AM   #141
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When you play in one pitch mode, if the count defaults to 3-0, it is always a walk.
Or an impatient swing and ball in play...
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:15 PM   #142
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Or an impatient swing and ball in play...
True....that does happen occasionally
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:30 PM   #143
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When you play in one pitch mode, if the count defaults to 3-0, it is always a walk.
Took less than 2 innings to show otherwise.

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In this game 5 X 3-0 counts followed by a K, and 4 X 3-0 counts followed by a ball.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:45 PM   #145
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Fix "start highest rested"! What's it for? Whether a 5 man or 6 man rotation is used, they all get the same # of starts when simming. There is no difference between "start highest rested" and "strict order".


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I've been seeing a difference.

I'm sorry, I wasn't more specific:

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You consistently see 33,33,32,32,32 -- or for 6-man 27 each. There are no doublehheaders and several off days, so the #1 ought to be ready more frequently ahead of #5 and especially ahead of #6 (if used).

Once in awhile a MR guy will get 1 start, but even if a postseason berth is clinched the game will often use #1 and #2 uselessly in meaningless games 161 and 162.
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #146
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Took less than 2 innings to show otherwise.

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In this game 5 X 3-0 counts followed by a K, and 4 X 3-0 counts followed by a ball.
I'm not sure I follow. The scoreboard shows a count of 3-2. Are you playing one pitch mode? If you play one pitch mode, after you choose to pitch, the count automatically defaults to something. If it defaults to 3-0, the only results are walk or batter swings. I imagine it is the nature of the beast with one pitch mode. The whole point is that something is going to happen on the next pitch. If a strike is called, then you would have to pitch again, which wouldn't technically be one pitch mode.
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I just got to thinking the same thing. If it's one-pitch mode, and it shows you 3-0, what else is it supposed to give as a result? A strikeout? The only possibilities are a walk or ball in play.

Edit: Or a hit batter. But that's relatively rare.
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I'm not sure I follow. The scoreboard shows a count of 3-2. Are you playing one pitch mode? If you play one pitch mode, after you choose to pitch, the count automatically defaults to something. If it defaults to 3-0, the only results are walk or batter swings. I imagine it is the nature of the beast with one pitch mode. The whole point is that something is going to happen on the next pitch. If a strike is called, then you would have to pitch again, which wouldn't technically be one pitch mode.
Look at the pitch sequence and look at the PbP. I hit enter and the play result was a strikeout that followed the sequence indicated. The PbP clearly indicates a 3-2 pitch is the "one pitch". I'm not sure what the confusion is?

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One-Pitch Mode - In One Pitch Mode, the default, you select on strategic choice for this at-bat, and the computer will simulate all of the pitches in the at-bat, displaying only the final, decisive pitch in the at-bat. For example, you might choose "Swing Away," and the play-by-play call might immediately jump to "Here's the 3-2 pitch." The game simulated the first five pitches of the at-bat without showing them to you, and you only see the final pitch. In some cases, the game may show some non-final pitches in an at-bat, if they involve a result like a baserunner stealing.
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His point was that on the final pitch of any AB that ends on a 3-0 count, the outcome is almost always a walk, and occasionally a ball in play. Which makes me wonder what else he expects to happen.
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Took less than 2 innings to show otherwise.

Edit.

In this game 5 X 3-0 counts followed by a K, and 4 X 3-0 counts followed by a ball.
Ok, I love my real parks, but I love how these show a big view of the field itself. Are these the ones from the MLB QS?

I just might have to change them. Also, do they all have the ball flights?

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I'm not sure I follow. The scoreboard shows a count of 3-2. Are you playing one pitch mode? If you play one pitch mode, after you choose to pitch, the count automatically defaults to something. If it defaults to 3-0, the only results are walk or batter swings. I imagine it is the nature of the beast with one pitch mode. The whole point is that something is going to happen on the next pitch. If a strike is called, then you would have to pitch again, which wouldn't technically be one pitch mode.
What do you mean by default to 3-0? The AB cannot be completed with a 3-0 count.

If you press enter and get a 4-pitch walk complete AB then the count is 4-0. If you get a ball in play on the 4th pitch to complete the AB the count is 3-1. If a game play occurs on ball 3 (SB or missed bunt), then the PbP will kick out and you'll have to input one more time.
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Fix "start highest rested"! What's it for? Whether a 5 man or 6 man rotation is used, they all get the same # of starts when simming. There is no difference between "start highest rested" and "strict order".





I'm sorry, I wasn't more specific:

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You consistently see 33,33,32,32,32 -- or for 6-man 27 each. There are no doublehheaders and several off days, so the #1 ought to be ready more frequently ahead of #5 and especially ahead of #6 (if used).

Once in awhile a MR guy will get 1 start, but even if a postseason berth is clinched the game will often use #1 and #2 uselessly in meaningless games 161 and 162.
Are you using 7-day lineups? If so that overrides the rotation choice.

To stop pitchers starting late in the season go into set game strategy on the player page and bench him for X days. Great little feature.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:10 PM   #153
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What do you mean by default to 3-0? The AB cannot be completed with a 3-0 count.

If you press enter and get a 4-pitch walk complete AB then the count is 4-0. If you get a ball in play on the 4th pitch to complete the AB the count is 3-1. If a game play occurs on ball 3 (SB or missed bunt), then the PbP will kick out and you'll have to input one more time.
We're making way too big a deal of this. When playing in one pitch mode (as opposed to pitch by pitch), when you press 1 to swing away, the game simulates a count. It can be anything....1-1, 2-1, etc and then the pbp takes over. When you press 1 to pitch or swing and the scoreboard pops up 3-0, you know the batter will be walking, HBP or swinging. As I said before, playing in one pitch mode this only makes sense as the whole idea is that the AB is completed with the next pitch.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:24 PM   #154
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Fix "start highest rested"! What's it for? Whether a 5 man or 6 man rotation is used, they all get the same # of starts when simming. There is no difference between "start highest rested" and "strict order".
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We're making way too big a deal of this. When playing in one pitch mode (as opposed to pitch by pitch), when you press 1 to swing away, the game simulates a count. It can be anything....1-1, 2-1, etc and then the pbp takes over. When you press 1 to pitch or swing and the scoreboard pops up 3-0, you know the batter will be walking, HBP or swinging. As I said before, playing in one pitch mode this only makes sense as the whole idea is that the AB is completed with the next pitch.
OK. In my defense you made the "never" claim.

I'll leave you with one last nugget. In one-pitch mode the scoreboard is always one or more pitches behind the game unless a game event interrupts the AB.
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Fix "start highest rested"! What's it for? Whether a 5 man or 6 man rotation is used, they all get the same # of starts when simming. There is no difference between "start highest rested" and "strict order".


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Are you using 7-day lineups? If so that overrides the rotation choice.

To stop pitchers starting late in the season go into set game strategy on the player page and bench him for X days. Great little feature.
Thanks, for all the replies and suggestions. No, I'm not using 7-day lineups. And since this is working for people, there must be a setting in the league that's causing the problem. That brings up another issue:

in online leagues Game Setup is blacked out! It should be viewable, but not changeable by the player! How the commissioner sets up the game can alter the way you play the game, so this info should not be hidden.

BTW, I can't alter the pitcher usage or lineups in FOOL once the season starts. All 162 games are played in 1 sim.
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Bailey in my 1904 season it went like this:
Rube Waddell 44 GS 30 Wins
Christy Mathewson 41 GS 26 W
Wild Bill Donovan 36 GS 25 W
Kid Nichols 32 GS 18 W
Fred Glade 1 GS set as spot starter 20%
No injuries except Glade for more then 3 days.

So yeah don't know why it isn't working for you. This is historical in a 4 man rotation not a 5 man.
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in online leagues Game Setup is blacked out! It should be viewable, but not changeable by the player!
Completely agree with this one, it has frustrated me many times.
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Andreas is currently working on improving the Real Time Sim Broadcast for online leagues, so we've decided to release anothger update pretty soon (late July, early August).

I will fix some open bugs and may also add a couple of small features. Any suggestions, let me know

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