Is there a need for an unofficial forum now?

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

It was called the All-American Mod and it was Pre-1947.

Well, my memory was wrong then. Thing is, for some reason I remember looking up something about Enos Cabell. I also remember the thread I was reading was rather testy. Maybe it was a pre47 mod and instead of ending the color barrier it continued well past that year. That being said, I should probably have just kept my mouth shut.

[pauwoo]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Well, my memory was wrong then. Thing is, for some reason I remember looking up something about Enos Cabell. I also remember the thread I was reading was rather testy. Maybe it was a pre47 mod and instead of ending the color barrier it continued well past that year. That being said, I should probably have just kept my mouth shut.

He’s still technically an active member, I reckon, so I’ll tread lightly after sampling some of his more spirited posts on the forum so I don’t draw the ire of some of our more overzealous mods.

Someone asked if he’d make it on the board these days… Yeah, sure, look around, he’d fit right in. We’d likely have to rename the ‘dogpile’ rule in his honor as folks jumped from closed thread to closed thread to continue to engage him.

Sounds like a rockin’ good time, you ask me.

Edit: Just read through his ending on the boards. What a plot twist at the end!

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

It was called the All-American Mod and it was Pre-1947.

Naming it All American means it must have been created before 2008 when the phrase "Real Americans" was invented.

[Brad K]

Curious how the all white league dealt with white Hispanics.

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Naming it All American means it must have been created before 2008 when the phrase "Real Americans" was invented.

When I think of “Real American” I think of Hulk Hogan making an entrance.

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Curious how the all white league dealt with white Hispanics.

And Asians.

[Syd Thrift]

There were white Hispanic players in MLB; they just had to pass, and kind of extremely pass at that. Dolf Luque was the most famous and he was, for example, described as "fair-skinned and blue eyed". Kenesaw Mountain Landis was a notorious racist and on top of that there was a memory of John McGraw trying to sneak in a black player who passed as, if not exactly white, then light brown as a First Nations person in the early 1900s. Nevertheless, 17 Hispanic players played in Major League Baseball between the teens and the 40s.

[pauwoo]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Curious how the all white league dealt with white Hispanics.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=197322

[pauwoo]

Originally Posted by mytreds

When I think of “Real American” I think of Hulk Hogan making an entrance.

Don’t forget about the four demandments - train, eat your vitamins, say your prayers and believe in yourself, brother!

HULKAMANIA STILL RUNNIN WILD!

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=197322

Wow. It WAS after the phrase "Real American" was invented. How could he miss that?

Thanks for the link. Amazing stuff. Also the thread is not locked, a good example that if problems are left alone the users will take care of the issue.

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=197322

That was not the thread that blew up.
He did create a 'Texas League' and manually edited out every Hispanic sounding name using an earlier file he created to only have white sounding names.


This was before face gen so ethnicity just had to be guessed at by name.

Here is a thread where he introduced the league.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...t=texas+league

There may be others
But this forums search function is awful

I can't remember the year of the league, but I would say the earlier memory of it being in the 60s or 70s is correct.
And Texas has a long Hispanic heritage due in part it to you know, once upon a time being Mexico.

That was not his only problematic league or post dealing with race and ethnicity.

[pauwoo]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That was not the thread that blew up.
He did create a 'Texas League' and manually edited out every Hispanic sounding name using an earlier file he created to only have white sounding names.


This was before face gen so ethnicity just had to be guessed at by name.

Here is a thread where he introduced the league.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...t=texas+league

There may be others
But this forums search function is awful

I can't remember the year of the league, but I was to say the earlier memory of it being in the 60s or 70s is correct.
And Texas has a long Hispanic heritage due in part it you know, once upon a time being Mexico.

That was not his only problematic league or post dealing with race and ethnicity.

Oh man, settling in to watch this weeks Last of Us cauliflower zombies with wifey. Looking forward to reading this thread later!

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

Oh man, settling in to watch this weeks Last of Us cauliflower zombies with wifey. Looking forward to reading this thread later!

There is not a lot to it. I can't seem to find the thread where it was first discovered that he had edited out every Hispanic name and was asked about it and he could not really come up with an explanation.
I think he tried to say it was historical, but then evidence was presented that indeed Hispanic players did play in the Texas League at the time of his league.
After that, he just got defensive and claimed persecution which was his MO.

But this is going back a long long time.

20 years this summer!

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That was not the thread that blew up.
He did create a 'Texas League' and manually edited out every Hispanic sounding name using an earlier file he created to only have white sounding names.


This was before face gen so ethnicity just had to be guessed at by name.

Here is a thread where he introduced the league.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...t=texas+league

There may be others
But this forums search function is awful

I can't remember the year of the league, but I would say the earlier memory of it being in the 60s or 70s is correct.
And Texas has a long Hispanic heritage due in part it you know, once upon a time being Mexico.

That was not his only problematic league or post dealing with race and ethnicity.

In retrospect, spammy dealt him some veeeeeeery light hearted ribbing and MD did not take it well at all. Snowflakes, etc.

[polydamas]

Me returning to the forum after a year

[Bobfather]

Does anyone think there should be sub-forums, for those who playout games and those that sim?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Bobfather

Does anyone think there should be sub-forums, for those who playout games and those that sim?

No. Game engine is the same for either way of playing. I learn more about the game by reading posts here, splitting would make it inconvenient and inefficient to get to all information. Having the same topics coming up on each board then would lead to confusion and information being lost in the shuffle of going back and forth between boards.

My 2 cents.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Bobfather

Does anyone think there should be sub-forums, for those who playout games and those that sim?

No but I think every post about how the game works should specify real or fictional players.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by nutt

That's a name I haven't came across in a LONG time! I can't remember if he had a meltdown after a game release or if it was over fictional vs. reality.

Or his previous alt Malleus Dei. Crazy and fun days. I should have read the whole thread first.

[Syd Thrift]

Jesus, speaking of blasts from the past… hi bababui