OOTP Go 23 - Status Update!

[daves]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

I can't say much about this, since there's a lot of factors and people that have a say in things. However I can say that almost always the desktop game comes out just before the season starts each year. This year was an exception because there were some unfortunate complications.
In terms of Go, since we just started releasing it as a yearly game, there isn't anything as set, but we want to be able to get it out soon after the desktop launch in the future.

MLB Manager was released around the same time as OOTP. OOTPGO replaced it, but is not efficiently the same as far as release date. Very Odd.


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[daves]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Not for the short term as far as I am aware.

Can I ask, what specifics of the commish mode would people like to have the most in Go?

It would be a major disappointment and failure to not have a commish mode in OOTPGO.


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[analgesic]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

We had to change plans because we were forced to change backend providers for PT.

Originally Posted by Will Beh

In terms of Go, since we just started releasing it as a yearly game, there isn't anything as set, but we want to be able to get it out soon after the desktop launch in the future.

I absolutely get that being forced to change backend providers creates complications. And I appreciate that the dev team is working to ensure those of us that have bought the historical pack will get their purchase transferred. What I haven't seen yet is a commitment to make it right if that becomes technically impossible.

Furthermore, being forced to change backend providers for PT and a distraction over the always obvious fact that PT resets every year seems to have buried the lede here: Why is Go moving to a yearly release model after explicitly promising to be a continually updated app? That is a willful design choice, not something necessitated by a backend switch.

[Edster007]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Not for the short term as far as I am aware.

Can I ask, what specifics of the commish mode would people like to have the most in Go?

Comissh modes gives you full control of your game. Obviously there is value to it since it is in the desktop version. The question is, unless there is a restriction within the development of the app and given how closely the app mirrors the desktop version if it is possible what is the eversion to it being added? Is it dev time vs. ROI? I would I get that if it were the case.

I am enjoying the game as is and wont need a new version unless there are feature(s) added that I would consider an enhancement to my personal experience in playing.

[daves]

Originally Posted by Edster007

Comissh modes gives you full control of your game. Obviously there is value to it since it is in the desktop version. The question is, unless there is a restriction within the development of the app and given how closely the app mirrors the desktop version if it is possible what is the eversion to it being added? Is it dev time vs. ROI? I would I get that if it were the case.

I am enjoying the game as is and wont need a new version unless there are feature(s) added that I would consider an enhancement to my personal experience in playing.

The restriction was intentionally made by OOTP. The development team decided against commish mode for OOTPGO. Hopefully they will reconsider for those who can't sit in front of a personal PC all day but do have a phone.

[snarls200]

Originally Posted by daves

The restriction was intentionally made by OOTP. The development team decided against commish mode for OOTPGO. Hopefully they will reconsider for those who can't sit in front of a personal PC all day but do have a phone.

Heck I don't even have a computer

[DaBears]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Not for the short term as far as I am aware.

Can I ask, what specifics of the commish mode would people like to have the most in Go?

The biggest issues for me are the ability to move a player from one team to another (given historical setup in GO), adjust salaries, and change personality. I was never critical of this in the desktop version because it is easy to understand how it’s impossible to sit there and know every player in the universe from your end. That said, when you follow a team closely, there are some obvious errors in personality that it would be nice to easily correct.

For me, I don’t want to cheat using commish mode - it is all about making it more real and the lack of commish mode makes that impossible today. For what the game costs overall, I can’t see OOTP assigning enough resources to development to overcome what we can change on our own when there are errors.

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

We had to change plans because we were forced to change backend providers for PT.

But, nothing stops you from playing historical seasons in the old version of OOTP Go, nobody forces you to buy them in OOTP Go 23. So essentially, nothing changes except for the fact that you have to keep a copy of the old OOTP Go on your device if you want to play your purchased historical games.

In EA FIFA Soccer Mobile every year the players start over with only some kickstart advantage if they are dedicated users with high scores. This is not uncommon for mobile sports games having this much complexity especially considering that full reset has always been normal in console sports games year after year.

Originally Posted by daves

The restriction was intentionally made by OOTP. The development team decided against commish mode for OOTPGO. Hopefully they will reconsider for those who can't sit in front of a personal PC all day but do have a phone.

What I would like to see is various Perfect Team Leagues within the Perfect Team Universe to have some rules differences. Players familiar with commish mode and online leagues would become attracted to the Perfect Team Universe if their prefered customizations were available in Perfect Team Mode.

[TheGreatBambi]

Originally Posted by analgesic

I absolutely get that being forced to change backend providers creates complications. And I appreciate that the dev team is working to ensure those of us that have bought the historical pack will get their purchase transferred. What I haven't seen yet is a commitment to make it right if that becomes technically impossible.

Furthermore, being forced to change backend providers for PT and a distraction over the always obvious fact that PT resets every year seems to have buried the lede here: Why is Go moving to a yearly release model after explicitly promising to be a continually updated app? That is a willful design choice, not something necessitated by a backend switch.

Amen brother

Originally Posted by TheGreatBambi

Amen brother

OOTP promised to maintain an updatable app?

[Will Beh]

Originally Posted by willie212384

Is there any possibility of some kind of cloud save feature? I know that compatibility between PC and mobile isn’t possible, but what about iPad and iPhone. It would be great to be able my same franchise on both of my devices.

I'm not actually sure what our plan is for this. I think the answer is yes if it ends up being straight forward and maybe otherwise

[Will Beh]

Originally Posted by Edster007

Comissh modes gives you full control of your game. Obviously there is value to it since it is in the desktop version. The question is, unless there is a restriction within the development of the app and given how closely the app mirrors the desktop version if it is possible what is the eversion to it being added? Is it dev time vs. ROI? I would I get that if it were the case.

I am enjoying the game as is and wont need a new version unless there are feature(s) added that I would consider an enhancement to my personal experience in playing.

As daves said below your post, the decision to not include commish mode was intentional. But in terms of new features, you'll be able to expect most of the 23 features to also be in the new app (that will include all the new ratings weights, catcher framing model, shop player upgrade, etc.)

[pwalsh04]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Not for the short term as far as I am aware.

Can I ask, what specifics of the commish mode would people like to have the most in Go?

Not commish mode, but I'd love to see automatic league evolution added to the game. It would add new challenges and fun story lines to my saves. Also, it'd also be nice to be able to expand the league using an actual expansion process, with an expansion draft.

Also, is there some reason why there aren't coaches, executives or scouts in Go? And whether they'll be added to 23?

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by analgesic

I absolutely get that being forced to change backend providers creates complications. And I appreciate that the dev team is working to ensure those of us that have bought the historical pack will get their purchase transferred. What I haven't seen yet is a commitment to make it right if that becomes technically impossible.

Furthermore, being forced to change backend providers for PT and a distraction over the always obvious fact that PT resets every year seems to have buried the lede here: Why is Go moving to a yearly release model after explicitly promising to be a continually updated app? That is a willful design choice, not something necessitated by a backend switch.

No, this is not a willful design decision, the app simply can not technically support two different backend providers. Plus, we did not promise a yearly release schedule, we stated back then that that is the current plan, and unfortunately this time the plan had to change. I wish it were not the case, but we cannot change it, sorry.

And about the historical seasons, we try to resolve this issue, but if we can't, the solution is to keep the old OOTP Go on the device and play purchased historical seasons there. I know it is not ideal, but it certainly works.

[Zuppy]

Is there a way to be GM only in ootp go? I only have the option for manager or gm/manager.

[DaBears]

Originally Posted by Zuppy

Is there a way to be GM only in ootp go? I only have the option for manager or gm/manager.

Not as a selection, but you can effectively be manager-only by going to Manager Settings and assigning everything but the first two drop downs to the AI. Works fine. One note, I have modified it over time to still handle active roster. The AI does some really weird stuff with bench player selection (e.g., you have a backup for 1B and three guys for 3B - no one can play 2B or SS). You may also end up with no lefty relievers - the AI seems to really dislike lefties! Like I said, it’s pretty good otherwise.

[TheGreatBambi]

Originally Posted by eeshvardasikcm

OOTP promised to maintain an updatable app?

I don’t see a Pokémon Go! 2023 coming out and resetting your Pokédex

[snarls200]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

As daves said below your post, the decision to not include commish mode was intentional. But in terms of new features, you'll be able to expect most of the 23 features to also be in the new app (that will include all the new ratings weights, catcher framing model, shop player upgrade, etc.)

Guessing not the alt jersey feature due to OS limitations.

I personally want to see as many of the features that were in 22 already then the 23 and later additions.

[mlcor]

So, does this mean that bugs in the current version of OOTPGo, like the save bug I posted, won't be fixed? I don't have any desire to buy a new version, losing the years of building my franchise team and having to start from scratch...