Christmas Wish 2020: Please Put Women's Baseball in OOTP!

[BirdWatcher]

Originally Posted by sdw1000

Good job Leftist...you've taken over the freakin message board..

You are the one injecting political divisiveness into this mostly very civil and constructive conversation.
Please stop.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

You are the one injecting political divisiveness into this mostly very civil and constructive conversation.
Please stop.

Ideally, the mods would take care of this...individual. Their reaction, removing the instigating posts/poster vs removing the thread will be telling



As I've said, this topic is about something more than the game

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Ideally, the mods would take of this...individual. Their reaction, removing the instigating posts/poster vs removing the thread will be telling



As I've said, this topic is about something more than the game

I agree. That person is a troll whose comments should be expunged and who should be disciplined if not banned.

That way, this thread may be allowed to continue here. I would suggest, however, that we try to also keep our discussions germane to the game which is, after all, the reason for it being here.

[Sweed]

I've tried to avoid commenting in this thread thinking it will all just go where it goes.

I think I will start with recalling, I think last year?, Matt said about the pronouns that it is a huge job to make a change. This is an improvement from when it was called impossible, yes? He noted that as he came across these while coding he was "fixing" them piecemeal. So it is already a work in progress.

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

The issue is, it's a waste of development time and resources.

From all of my time on the board reading posts from PSU, I think, he is just a guy that wants an MLB game as realistic as possible to today's and historical standards. It's his opinon, he's entitled to it, and I read nothing else into it.

Originally Posted by BaseballNewsNow

Looking at this thread, there seems to be a demand for an option to create female players.

If OOTP is supposed to be realistic, then they should add women because as the Kim Ng hiring demonstrated, the sport of baseball (and the whole world for that matter) is moving towards getting rid of the sexism that has prevented women from playing baseball.

At least add an option. And if anyone objects to at least making this game more customizable and realistic, then your sexism prevents us from having a real conversation.

Yes by this thread there is some demand. To be fair can we keep in mind it is being made by ~20 or less people? Could there be a lot more not posting? Sure

Then you lose me by going to the bold sexism comment. Because surely someone can't oppose based on PSU's argument without an ugly motive, right?

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Opinion

One not shared by many

Like I think any time spent on player pants is a waste of time and resources. Others would disagree.

Again "not shared by many" is relative to this thread. Maybe some don't respond because the subtle name calling when they try to give an honest answer? My thought would be if development time is not taken into account then 90% would not oppose. But development time is something that some believe is reason enough to oppose. They, like the OP, want the game they want and are entitled to that opinion.

Definitely an opinion though, that we are all allowed to agree or disagree with. Since pants are a waste of time what about the "skirt uniforms" the women's teams wore in the 40's? Should they be in the game or are they a waste of time? This is a serous question not an attempt at "gotcha". The current 3d player models are male. It follows 3d women models should be part of the addition, yes?

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

The issue is, adding gender may well be a waste of very little time or resources. It's some extra stuff in Facegen, another field in the DB, and maybe some on-the-fly rewrites of some news articles to add a new pronoun option. Honestly it's probably not that big of a deal, and "it's a waste of time and resources" turns into a soft way to oppose it without having to out yourself.

The AAGPBL was indeed a part of history. It would be neat to construct an alternate universe where that didn't die out after World War II, or for that matter to create a baseball equivalent of the WNBA.

The bold is really unfair in my opinion and only an attempt to stifle the conversation. Nobody can legitimately oppose based on their opinion of how coding time is used?

CB can oppose pants as a waste of time and resources and that's ok but..
PSU cannot oppose women players or leagues for the same reason? Why?

Originally Posted by eldur00

FIFY.


I could argue the biggest waste of development time and resources has been the introduction of 3D because I never use it, but see, I understand I'm not alone in playing the game, and others might actually appreciate to have the option.

An example of fair criticism. Doesn't act as if he\she knows another posters "deep inside" motives.

As for me? There was a time I opposed, like PSU, thinking time could be better spent on other things. The game does so much now that I don't care if it's added or not. As noted Matt has spoken on the issue and it is being addressed just maybe not at the pace some would like.

My thinking is changing the pronouns, adding a male\female selection, and a female facegen ability would be a good start and allow easy mods to be produced.

The seeming lack of data argument, too me, would be a trouble spot to do a lot more (maybe I'm wrong about that?). Without that does the "roster team" have to build historical rosters from scratch? What about real world leagues\tournaments of the present day? More handmade rosters that I imagine take quite a bit of time to do. I have no idea how this would playout? Only those on the current team would have the answer if they could fit this into the development time?

How do women age, hit their prime, compared to men? As of now they would be using the same engine.

League totals and LTM's could be used easily, I think, to replicate women's leauges. But what about mixed leagues?

For some that argue OOTP was made primarily for the fictional player? I can't buy into that at all. The game always had MLB stats and players (albeit with fictional names, though a real name file was always available on release day until names became public domain) as the default. Everything else stems from that. Other leagues and worlds operate at a percentage of MLB. Whether you go to Mars where 10,000 ft homers are the norm, Rookie ball in an MLB world, or play in a small non traditional baseball country on earth. Keep in mind all of these countries were introduced because FM code was used as part of the total rewrite when OOTP went to SI. Why not use the whole world of soccer if it is available? Hell a lot of people took this as a negative when the rewrite was done and were never going to play OOTP again as it was becoming a soccer game. In reality all of these countries are no different than North America\MLB, they're just modified to a low percentage of what the MLB world runs at. Another clue is they had a goal of someday getting an MLB license and finally did along with the player's association license too.
It is hardly a game aimed at fictional players.

My 2 cents. I'll just go back to reading now and hope the subtle name calling can stop

[BirdWatcher]

[QUOTE=Sweed;4729290
For some that argue OOTP was made primarily for the fictional player? I can't buy into that at all. The game always had MLB stats and players (albeit with fictional names, though a real name file was always available on release day until names became public domain) as the default. Everything else stems from that. Other leagues and worlds operate at a percentage of MLB. Whether you go to Mars where 10,000 ft homers are the norm, Rookie ball in an MLB world, or play in a small non traditional baseball country on earth. Keep in mind all of these countries were introduced because FM code was used as part of the total rewrite when OOTP went to SI. Why not use the whole world of soccer if it is available? Hell a lot of people took this as a negative when the rewrite was done and were never going to play OOTP again as it was becoming a soccer game. In reality all of these countries are no different than North America\MLB, they're just modified to a low percentage of what the MLB world runs at. Another clue is they had a goal of someday getting an MLB license and finally did along with the player's association license too.
It is hardly a game aimed at fictional players.

[/QUOTE]

While I certainly am not assuming that I am one of the people you are responding to with this portion of your post, I do want to clarify that I am well aware (or believe I am, anyway, given what I've heard here in the past, including from the developers) that people who play strictly fictional like myself are in the minority of OOTP gamers. I am also under the impression (very possibly the false impression) that people who play strictly historical are also somewhat in the minority. I would be happy to be corrected by someone who knows better than I do, but my recollection is that the largest percentage of people who play OOTP (and I'm setting aside PT for this discussion) play the standard game, starting with current rosters and current MLB teams. But given that most of them then play into the future, eventually (depending upon how far into the future they play) the players become fictional. Now I think the point others are making is that once you start playing OOTP with any grouping of players, a fictional version of that player begins. That's a more theoretical concept than I intend to introduce here. My main point has been merely that, again, as best I understand the data about how OOTP'ers play this game, a very large percentage of OOTP gamers do play saves that eventually involve completely fictional characters.

And, again, I could be misremembering or just completely imagining this. But that is what I was trying to indicate in my earlier statements here.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by Sweed

I think I will start with recalling, I think last year?, Matt said about the pronouns that it is a huge job to make a change. This is an improvement from when it was called impossible, yes? He noted that as he came across these while coding he was "fixing" them piecemeal. So it is already a work in progress.

I hope this is true. Quite encouraging.

From all of my time on the board reading posts from PSU, I think, he is just a guy that wants an MLB game as realistic as possible to today's and historical standards. It's his opinon, he's entitled to it, and I read nothing else into it.

So, they were likewise opposed to the work that went in to allowing users to create fictional leagues?
And that allow users to have rules that don't exist in MLB?
Or to override rules that do exist in MLB?

Not a "gotcha", a legitimate question

Definitely an opinion though, that we are all allowed to agree or disagree with. Since pants are a waste of time what about the "skirt uniforms" the women's teams wore in the 40's? Should they be in the game or are they a waste of time? This is a serous question not an attempt at "gotcha". The current 3d player models are male. It follows 3d women models should be part of the addition, yes?

My opinion, having women be an explicit part of the game should come first and as soon as possible
Then uniforms

My thinking is changing the pronouns, adding a male\female selection, and a female facegen ability would be a good start and allow easy mods to be produced.

Seems reasonable

How do women age, hit their prime, compared to men? As of now they would be using the same engine.


For some that argue OOTP was made primarily for the fictional player? I can't buy into that at all. The game always had MLB stats and players (albeit with fictional names, though a real name file was always available on release day until names became public domain) as the default. Everything else stems from that. Other leagues and worlds operate at a percentage of MLB. Whether you go to Mars where 10,000 ft homers are the norm, Rookie ball in an MLB world, or play in a small non traditional baseball country on earth. Keep in mind all of these countries were introduced because FM code was used as part of the total rewrite when OOTP went to SI. Why not use the whole world of soccer if it is available? Hell a lot of people took this as a negative when the rewrite was done and were never going to play OOTP again as it was becoming a soccer game. In reality all of these countries are no different than North America\MLB, they're just modified to a low percentage of what the MLB world runs at.

Right
And people are fine with the assumption, not supported by any data, that players from these countries would develop just like players from North America that has 150 years of baseball history and little leagues, high school baseball, college baseball and minor leagues.

But draw a non-arbitrary line with female players being included becaue "show me the data"

If they can overlook the differences between Tuvalu and the United States they should be able to overlook the differences between men and women. In my humble, or not, opinion,

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

While I certainly am not assuming that I am one of the people you are responding to with this portion of your post, I do want to clarify that I am well aware (or believe I am, anyway, given what I've heard here in the past, including from the developers) that people who play strictly fictional like myself are in the minority of OOTP gamers. I am also under the impression (very possibly the false impression) that people who play strictly historical are also somewhat in the minority. I would be happy to be corrected by someone who knows better than I do, but my recollection is that the largest percentage of people who play OOTP (and I'm setting aside PT for this discussion) play the standard game, starting with current rosters and current MLB teams. But given that most of them then play into the future, eventually (depending upon how far into the future they play) the players become fictional. Now I think the point others are making is that once you start playing OOTP with any grouping of players, a fictional version of that player begins. That's a more theoretical concept than I intend to introduce here. My main point has been merely that, again, as best I understand the data about how OOTP'ers play this game, a very large percentage of OOTP gamers do play saves that eventually involve completely fictional characters.

And, again, I could be misremembering or just completely imagining this. But that is what I was trying to indicate in my earlier statements here.

I appreciate your thoughts. My intention was to just post and go back to reading. We'll see how that goes.

My game started with v4 in 2002. That's both my initial season but also the real world year I started. Imported to every new OOTP since.

I started with real players that have obviously morphed into fictional through attrition. I would not call my world fictional in the way some are using the term here and how they can "make" a baseball world. My world is the real world as it existed when I started and as it exists now. My teams are MLB, my stats are MLB, schedules are MLB, all things are MLB except the players through attrition. I guess most(?) want to label this as fictional but I don't see it that way and certainly not as the way others do when they talk about "I can create this world, or that world".

I am responding to some who think the purpose of OOTP was originally and still is to make "what if" fictional baseball worlds. This is just one example of the type of post I'm talking about but you will see this opinion based in lots of threads. Too me, the bold, simply is not remotely accurate as to what OOTP is based on.

Originally Posted by SirSaab

In a game based almost wholly on the opportunity to live in a fictional baseball universe, not including non-fictional realities seems... like a big oversight.
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Hopefully that clarifies that paragraph.

[PSUColonel]

My opinion is OOTP has been neglecting GM features for some time. Examples would be proper posting rules and a lot of general detailed roster rules. (ala Football Manager).

To me it feels OOTP is becoming more of a stat simulator than a GM simulator. It’s has also been very focused on other features I could care less about such as Perfect Team, OOTP mobile etc

I think some good first steps were taken in revamping the scouting and drafting system this past year....but stilll feel it can be improved upon. The same goes for a lot of GM features that just feel a little “half baked”. In fact SI spent the last couple of years refining FM rather than introducing blockbuster features. The result this year is probably going to be recognized as one of the greatest simulation/management/ strategy games of all time.

So you can see where I feel this is a feature that should be low in the priority list...especially considering the limited resources OOTPD has always had. It feels like FM has taken giant steps forward in the last couple of years while OOTP has sort of remained stagnant. OOTP had seemed to catch up it seemed back around 2015-2018....but FM is again pulling away.

FM did introduce woman into this year’s version to be fair...but it was also more of a finishing touch. In fact I just hired a female physio for my Philadelphia Union.

So forgive me for not explaining, but if I were to make a priority list....I just see a lot of other areas for improvement first.

[BirdWatcher]

I have also been thinking, and I certainly don't throw this out there to muddy the waters or stir any controversy (so apologies if somehow it inadvertently does that), that there might be some generational differences at play here as well.
My impression during the years I have been active here is that I am probably fairly typical of the demographic most represented in this forum- or at least of those who are very active participants and posters. In other words, male and middle-aged. (Well, okay, at 55 I am probably more like late-middle-aged headed towards old, but that also I think is not unusual in this group.) When I visit the OOTP forums on reddit I get the distinct impression the average age of the gamers communicating there may be a bit lower.

So I do find myself sometimes wondering how representative this grouping of OOTP gamers, the ones active on this official forum, really are of OOTP gamers (and certainly of potential OOTP gamers) as a whole? I don't pretend to know the answer to that question. I would suggest that we are probably the core gamers and so in that sense our opinions might carry a bit more weight, and perhaps even should. But my instincts tell me that we probably aren't quite as representative of the average (whatever that means) OOTP gamer as we might wish to believe.

And my understanding of societal attitudes towards things like gender roles and gender identity tells me that a younger demographic is also, on the whole, a demographic group less tied to traditional norms and values in this (and not only this) area of human culture.

I am taking no stand in this post on whose norms and values are correct (or indeed regarding whether there is any such thing as correct in these matters) but merely wish to indicate that any level of support in this thread for the ideas introduced by the OP here may not be indicative of the level of overall support that might be out there.
And yes, I will be a bit less equivocal and state that I believe that any level of support shown here is probably an understatement of the level of support that a more expansive and less homogenous group of OOTP gamers or potential gamers would give for these concepts. (In my personal experience working with young people my sense isn't even necessarily that they would be more vociferous in their support of expanding gender in the game, but rather that they mostly wouldn't get why anyone would even think it was a big deal or a source of controversy.)

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by https://www.ootpdevelopments.com/out-of-the-park-baseball-home/

Build and customize your own fictional baseball world and choose from over 800 custom team logos.

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I don't know what the intent of the game was when it began

I do know that they now explicitly make it known that you can create fictional universes (as long as they only include men).

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

My opinion is OOTP has been neglecting GM features for some time. Examples would be proper posting rules and a lot of general detailed roster rules. (ala Football Manager).

To me it feels OOTP is becoming more of a stat simulator than a GM simulator. It’s has also been very focused on other features I could care less about such as Perfect Team, OOTP mobile etc

I think some good first steps were taken in revamping the scouting and drafting system this past year....but stilll feel it can be improved upon. The same goes for a lot of GM features that just feel a little “half baked”.

Agreed

Though I think excluding half (roughly) of the world population from the game is a more pressing issue to address than some roster/finance minutia.

And I love roster/finance minutia

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

I hope this is true. Quite encouraging.


So, they were likewise opposed to the work that went in to allowing users to create fictional leagues?
And that allow users to have rules that don't exist in MLB?
Or to override rules that do exist in MLB?

Not a "gotcha", a legitimate question




My opinion, having women be an explicit part of the game should come first and as soon as possible
Then uniforms


Seems reasonable



Right
And people are fine with the assumption, not supported by any data, that players from these countries would develop just like players from North America that has 150 years of baseball history and little leagues, high school baseball, college baseball and minor leagues.

But draw a non-arbitrary line with female players being included becaue "show me the data"

If they can overlook the differences between Tuvalu and the United States they should be able to overlook the differences between men and women. In my humble, or not, opinion,

I'm really trying to limit myself going down a rabbit hole and just get back to reading. Arguing nuances? Not going to waste my time, better things to do.

A quick answer would be I would suspect PSU (and many others) did object to all of those things that take away from the MLB format. I think you'd find a consistency in his posts in the matter of adding anything that doesn't improve upon MLB or historical MLB. It's why I did not read anything more into his post. And yet for his effort he got the subtle name calling response

Fictional leagues are really, like all other things in OOTP, a by product of the MLB game. Due to licensing in the early days being able to rename teams, leagues, players etc was part of the game. It just so happens that also allows one to delve into making fictional worlds too. Same as now when anything new is added to the game because MLB in real life has gone down that road that new feature is now available for fictional players.

Pretty much anything that is non-MLB that was added was due to customers begging Markus over many years and him finally saying "yeah, maybe I can find a way to add that". As to how many of those things there are? I can only think of one, "promotion-relegation" though there may be others I don't recall.

Tuvalu and other small countries were added, as I already noted, only because they were part of FM's database. They were a "no cost" addition that, again as I noted, many complained about and stated they would not buy another OOTP since it was now a soccer game. lol I would suspect most could care less how those countries produce or age players. Cuba, Mexico, Korea, Japan? Sure. Tuvalu or Egypt? Not so much. I would guess if these countries were not in the file, someone requested them because they're on earth, and Markus asked for opinions there would be objections. Waste of time, data, how they develop, etc. would be some of the reasons given.

Developers can add women in or not. As I said the game does enough now that the argument it takes away other things isn't a big deal in my mind. They can weigh the pros and cons and how it affects the bottom line.

You all can go back to your discussion. As I ended my other post though, I hope the subtle insults for those that simply state their opinion stop.

[BirdWatcher]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

My opinion is OOTP has been neglecting GM features for some time. Examples would be proper posting rules and a lot of general detailed roster rules. (ala Football Manager).

To me it feels OOTP is becoming more of a stat simulator than a GM simulator. It’s has also been very focused on other features I could care less about such as Perfect Team, OOTP mobile etc

I think some good first steps were taken in revamping the scouting and drafting system this past year....but stilll feel it can be improved upon. The same goes for a lot of GM features that just feel a little “half baked”. In fact SI spent the last couple of years refining FM rather than introducing blockbuster features. The result this year is probably going to be recognized as one of the greatest simulation/management/ strategy games of all time.

So you can see where I feel this is a feature that should be low in the priority list...especially considering the limited resources OOTPD has always had. It feels like FM has taken giant steps forward in the last couple of years while OOTP has sort of remained stagnant. OOTP had seemed to catch up it seemed back around 2015-2018....but FM is again pulling away.

FM did introduce woman into this year’s version to be fair...but it was also more of a finishing touch. In fact I just hired a female physio for my Philadelphia Union.

So forgive me for not explaining, but if I were to make a priority list....I just see a lot of other areas for improvement first.

I just want to say that I really appreciate this response and clarification.
One of my frustrations in this thread has been that while some have offered very well-reasoned statements on why they think this might not be feasible, largely the people who stated an opposing view did so with name-calling, labelling, angry invective, and belittling.
What you are offering here is a reasoned, and reasonable, argument against the developers spending time and resources on this particular requested addition to the game.
I may not agree with you, but I very much appreciate that someone is making a counter-argument here that advances the discussion in a spirit of intelligence, reason, and civility.
Thank you!
(And, because this medium can be a bit tricky in terms of reading intent and intonation, please know that I am generally not a sarcastic person and am being fully sincere above.)

[eldur00]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

My opinion is OOTP has been neglecting GM features for some time. Examples would be proper posting rules and a lot of general detailed roster rules. (ala Football Manager).

To me it feels OOTP is becoming more of a stat simulator than a GM simulator. It’s has also been very focused on other features I could care less about such as Perfect Team, OOTP mobile etc

I think some good first steps were taken in revamping the scouting and drafting system this past year....but stilll feel it can be improved upon. The same goes for a lot of GM features that just feel a little “half baked”. In fact SI spent the last couple of years refining FM rather than introducing blockbuster features. The result this year is probably going to be recognized as one of the greatest simulation/management/ strategy games of all time.

So you can see where I feel this is a feature that should be low in the priority list...especially considering the limited resources OOTPD has always had. It feels like FM has taken giant steps forward in the last couple of years while OOTP has sort of remained stagnant. OOTP had seemed to catch up it seemed back around 2015-2018....but FM is again pulling away.

FM did introduce woman into this year’s version to be fair...but it was also more of a finishing touch. In fact I just hired a female physio for my Philadelphia Union.

So forgive me for not explaining, but if I were to make a priority list....I just see a lot of other areas for improvement first.

Explained like this, it's completely fair - we all won't have the same priority list, and that's okay.
I'm with you that the game has been feeling stale for a good 3 years now (coincidentally with the introduction to PT...). I also like the comparison to what FM is doing by fine tuning existing features to make it a very solid game. We got the "lots of things were fixed under the hood that were needed but you won't notice" spill last year, and while I don't think OOTP lied to us, it didn't make any of the existing features feel sharper or more complete than they were. I still only interact with my scouting director instead of a scouting team, and the only interactions I have with my staff is to hire or fire them, for the most part. I think you nail it on the head that some features are kind of introductory features (I don't think necessarily half baked, more like they were introduced but never expanded upon). Things like owner goals could have a lot more meat into it, instead it's more like an RNG type of thing where the owner gives you goals seemingly at random which frustrates half the player base into turning it off.



But...all of this is deviating from the OP and a discussion that's been had in many other threads. I still think it's a pretty reasonable and normal ask to add females and their leagues into the base game.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by RchW

The flailing of a dinosaur heading toward extinction. Too bad so sad.

Dinosaurs were awesome
The poster to which you are referring, not awesome

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

FM did introduce woman into this year’s version to be fair...but it was also more of a finishing touch. In fact I just hired a female physio for my Philadelphia Union.

Just to clarify, female staff were added to Football Manager many years ago. As well as the agility to create a female manager and be addressed as a female in game and by the in game media.

I do not own the most current version yet, so I do not know if there is anything beyond the above.
The next step will be to add in female players and some women’s leagues that you can manage. I have a feeling that is not too far off.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Just to clarify, female staff were added to Football Manager many years ago. As well as the agility to create a female manager and be addressed as a female in game and by the in game media.

I do not own the most current version yet, so I do not know if there is anything beyond the above.
The next step will be to add in female players and some women’s leagues that you can manage. I have a feeling that is not too far off.

You need to pick up the latest version. It really is a marvel

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

You need to pick up the latest version. It really is a marvel

I am going to eventually, I am pretty deep into my FM 20 game. I eventually break down and purchase every version.

[ablobj]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I think the reason is pretty obvious, even if it's not a great one. There just hasn't been the demand for it - or at least a vocal demand - which is why there aren't very many games of other types that include female or non-binary athletes. I am far from a big-time gamer, so I haven't played that many games, but outside of some females in NBA 2K and maybe in FIFA (I might be wrong about that), I can't think of any other console or desktop sports games built around major professional leagues that include women. (A version of Tiger Woods a while back had a few female golfers, as well.)

Now, as we're seeing with this thread, the demand is clearly growing for those genders to be included, and they are overdue.

I don't think this thread shows that "demand is clearly growing"...it's basically just 5 or 6 people on either side arguing lol. It would be a fun addition to the game though.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

I agree, it is time for female players, coaches and front offices people to be added.

And it would hardly be cutting edge. Football Manager added female pronouns and staff many years ago and it got the typical misogynistic pushback but the developers did it anyways.
Now it is just another part of the game.

FIFA added women’s national teams many versions ago. It is only a matter of time before they add leagues like the women’s FA Super League, women’s Bundesliga and the new NWSL.

NBA 2K last year added the WNBA. And for the current version greatly expanded that. Now you can be the GM of a WNBA team or use the MYplayer mode to create a women’s player and be a rookie drafted into the WNBA and play out your career.

I think OOTP has grown to where it is now time.

And this stuff matters. I have a young daughter and son. My daughter gets to see people like her represented in video games which are an important part of her life. It may sound like a small thing but it’s not. I can see how it affects her.
And my son also sees women in games and is going to grow up in a world where he sees women as equals in every field of life.
We teach him this anyways, but it is nice when media that he consumes reinforces this.

Hear, hear.