The only baseball sim I've ever gotten addicted to...

[Vinny P.]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Famous people must learn to deal with fanboys stuff like you call it. It's part of being famous.

Nothing I detest more then seeing sports celebrities snubbing the kids that admire them. Anyone remember that Alex Rios incident? Pathetic.

Mike Mussina is a cousin of mine. just goin to the beach or somewhere with him, it gets quite tiring, even for ME, to see all the fanboys come out and swamp him. Especially when we are on vacation.

Famous people need a break too, ya know.

[Vinny P.]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I think it's Willie Nelson!

You think....wait...why...what the hell!?

Willie Nelson? Why?

[t-bone shuffle]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I think it's Willie Nelson!

I'll take Leon Spinks.

[stevebydac]

nm

[gehrig38]

Originally Posted by vnork

Hey Markus, you think we could get an option to disable QuesTec in the next patch?

Well played sir!

[gehrig38]

So let me end talk amongst you guys about fanboys.
It's very nice, and appreciated when people thank me, I do still and always will appreciate it.
So let's assume going forward all Sox fans here that like me want to thank me for what we did while I was here, thanks guys, gals, it's very cool and I appreciate it.
Let's also assume there are MFY fans here, suck it.
Ok I've done something recommended.
Setup my 8 team league, fictional, setup 6 minor league teams (love doing the minors thing as GM).
Setup a 50 team College feeder, 100 team HS league.
Simmed it out 4 years, now it's the offseason.
Took over the Arizona team (which btw is the worst franchise with the leagues best hitter over the first 4).
In the irony of ironies, haha, the Sox won the first series, lost the 2nd, and the Cubs won the third, Twins the 4th
So I am taking over Arizona in off season 4.
My star player just won his 3 straight offensive player of the year!
Juggling my roster and thanks btw, setting relievers totally changed roster makeup.
It's awesome to see players get awards in HS, College and come into the pros, neat progression I never knew about.
I am now in the midst of trading and getting new coaches. FWIW I just made a 4 for 2 deal, with all 4 of the players I traded being pretty damn good, and getting a fragile young SP, a very good future middle infielder, and next years #1 pick So I am sitting on the top 2 picks in the draft, my owner better pony up!

[BradC]

Don't forget about us Phillies fans, Curt! My roommate and I got yelled at by our landlord in '93 after the Braves went down in defeat; we ran outside and banged pots and pans. I had been at the NLCS and World Series in 1983, but by 1993 I had moved to CA and wasn't able to attend any '93 games.

Okay, between that and my fanboy comments to you by email, I'm done now. :-)

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by gehrig38

So I am sitting on the top 2 picks in the draft, my owner better pony up!

Are the Sedin sisters in your draft? haha!

[The Wolf]

Have fun, Curt. Keep us posted if you have the time.

[Syd Thrift]

My *one* thing about the feeder leagues, especially using that many, is that you're basically making about... geez... say, 5 players per team x 150 teams = 750 players *per year* eligible for the draft. In and of itself, that's about enough talent for 25 rounds. Okay, I guess that isn't too terribly horrible; the rule of thumb us 5 rounds per level of minors you're using, and you probably have AAA, AA, A, and rookie at least; if you had another A league in there the talent discrepancy wouldn't be too bad, I guess.

It's still a *little* overtalented IMO though and eventually I think you might end up with a league that's too "flat"; i.e. too many stars, not enough guys who really stand out amongst the pack. It's also that... at this point, because the game isn't made to run on supercomputers (yet), it can only get so far down talent-wise. I mean, how do I say this... I have not memorized your high school stats, sir, but I am going to hazard a guess that you were like 15-0 with a negative ERA in your senior year. You probably struck so many people out, umpires awarded your team runs whenever you were on the mound. You don't see that kind of utter dominance in the feeder leagues because, well, the game just can't simulate the kid who is mostly a football player but is on the baseball team playing right field because his buddy got him to join. It's purely an aesthetic thing for me, of course. Maybe OOTP20 will allow me to play with 1400 high schools or whatever on my computer whose processor runs on unicorn farts; I'd probably be into feeder leagues then.

But I mean hey... I am all for playing the game however you want to play it. Isn't it awesome that the game is this versatile? My own little solo league is set in the 30s, I only have A-level leagues and higher in there (though I'm thinking of adding B-leagues as a "rookie" level this season). I think that any other game out there, you'd look at the league you're running and the league I'm running and know that at least one of us would have had to have made some major, major modifications or workarounds to make his system work. It's just in-frigging-credible that it can do all of this.

[CoachDirty]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

My *one* thing about the feeder leagues, especially using that many, is that you're basically making about... geez... say, 5 players per team x 150 teams = 750 players *per year* eligible for the draft. In and of itself, that's about enough talent for 25 rounds. Okay, I guess that isn't too terribly horrible; the rule of thumb us 5 rounds per level of minors you're using, and you probably have AAA, AA, A, and rookie at least; if you had another A league in there the talent discrepancy wouldn't be too bad, I guess.

It's still a *little* overtalented IMO though and eventually I think you might end up with a league that's too "flat"; i.e. too many stars, not enough guys who really stand out amongst the pack. It's also that... at this point, because the game isn't made to run on supercomputers (yet), it can only get so far down talent-wise. I mean, how do I say this... I have not memorized your high school stats, sir, but I am going to hazard a guess that you were like 15-0 with a negative ERA in your senior year. You probably struck so many people out, umpires awarded your team runs whenever you were on the mound. You don't see that kind of utter dominance in the feeder leagues because, well, the game just can't simulate the kid who is mostly a football player but is on the baseball team playing right field because his buddy got him to join. It's purely an aesthetic thing for me, of course. Maybe OOTP20 will allow me to play with 1400 high schools or whatever on my computer whose processor runs on unicorn farts; I'd probably be into feeder leagues then.

But I mean hey... I am all for playing the game however you want to play it. Isn't it awesome that the game is this versatile? My own little solo league is set in the 30s, I only have A-level leagues and higher in there (though I'm thinking of adding B-leagues as a "rookie" level this season). I think that any other game out there, you'd look at the league you're running and the league I'm running and know that at least one of us would have had to have made some major, major modifications or workarounds to make his system work. It's just in-frigging-credible that it can do all of this.

I've always just thought of my HS Feeder Leagues as HS All-Star (Travel Teams). Kind of similar to AAU teams in Basketball. That way, the pro level talent doesn't have to be THAT much better than the average talent. (basically the football player, who goes out for baseball because of his friend, isn't playing in these leagues)

[The Wolf]

As a baseball player who only played football because my best friend the first baseman absolutely insisted I feel left out here.

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by CoachDirty

I've always just thought of my HS Feeder Leagues as HS All-Star (Travel Teams). Kind of similar to AAU teams in Basketball. That way, the pro level talent doesn't have to be THAT much better than the average talent. (basically the football player, who goes out for baseball because of his friend, isn't playing in these leagues)

This is exactly how I look at them too.

When feeder leagues were introduced, I was very sceptical and didn't partake of the option.

However, I do a lot of ratings manipulations in my leagues and one of the bugs in OOTP11 meant I couldn't export/import rosters and also use financials. As a work around, I decided to try feeder leagues (where there are no financials to get messed up) and do all my editing on the High Schoolers and College players. I never intended to care about the actual leagues, just use them so I could edit the draft pool before it became the draft pool.

Well, make a long story short, I am now enamored by my feeder leagues. It is so cool to see a kid play four years in high school, while you drool about the day he becomes draft eligible. I have made all the teams be actual schools and have collected logos for them and I put my alma mater as one (even though they cannot be considered an elite program in real life). Plus, it has made the Amateur Draft much better for me, too, since these kids are not just popping out of the blue, but I have followed their careers four at least four seasons before they get to the pros (all my draftees come from feeder leagues).

Now, OOTP12 has removed the bug pertaining to import/export and contracts, but I am sticking with my feeders.....

[gehrig38]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

My *one* thing about the feeder leagues, especially using that many, is that you're basically making about... geez... say, 5 players per team x 150 teams = 750 players *per year* eligible for the draft. In and of itself, that's about enough talent for 25 rounds. Okay, I guess that isn't too terribly horrible; the rule of thumb us 5 rounds per level of minors you're using, and you probably have AAA, AA, A, and rookie at least; if you had another A league in there the talent discrepancy wouldn't be too bad, I guess.

It's still a *little* overtalented IMO though and eventually I think you might end up with a league that's too "flat"; i.e. too many stars, not enough guys who really stand out amongst the pack. It's also that... at this point, because the game isn't made to run on supercomputers (yet), it can only get so far down talent-wise. I mean, how do I say this... I have not memorized your high school stats, sir, but I am going to hazard a guess that you were like 15-0 with a negative ERA in your senior year. You probably struck so many people out, umpires awarded your team runs whenever you were on the mound. You don't see that kind of utter dominance in the feeder leagues because, well, the game just can't simulate the kid who is mostly a football player but is on the baseball team playing right field because his buddy got him to join. It's purely an aesthetic thing for me, of course. Maybe OOTP20 will allow me to play with 1400 high schools or whatever on my computer whose processor runs on unicorn farts; I'd probably be into feeder leagues then.

But I mean hey... I am all for playing the game however you want to play it. Isn't it awesome that the game is this versatile? My own little solo league is set in the 30s, I only have A-level leagues and higher in there (though I'm thinking of adding B-leagues as a "rookie" level this season). I think that any other game out there, you'd look at the league you're running and the league I'm running and know that at least one of us would have had to have made some major, major modifications or workarounds to make his system work. It's just in-frigging-credible that it can do all of this.

Didn't make my varsity team until I was a Senior, pedestrian record, sorta, one year at Yavapai JC, then to the Sox Minor league system through the last January Draft ever, 2nd round pick (my roomate was a 1st round pick and should have been a perennial AS and franchise catcher!)

I also have no idea how to tweak ratings to normalize stats.

[hfield007]

Originally Posted by gehrig38

Let's also assume there are MFY fans here, suck it.

Can I at least see a picture of the ketchup sock?
I kid, I kid. haha. I actually don't think I ever enjoyed being told to 'suck it' before. usually someone less famous is saying it haha.

[MizzouRah]

Excellent thread...

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by gehrig38

So let me end talk amongst you guys about fanboys.
It's very nice, and appreciated when people thank me, I do still and always will appreciate it.
So let's assume going forward all Sox fans here that like me want to thank me for what we did while I was here, thanks guys, gals, it's very cool and I appreciate it.
Let's also assume there are MFY fans here, suck it.
Ok I've done something recommended.
Setup my 8 team league, fictional, setup 6 minor league teams (love doing the minors thing as GM).
Setup a 50 team College feeder, 100 team HS league.
Simmed it out 4 years, now it's the offseason.
Took over the Arizona team (which btw is the worst franchise with the leagues best hitter over the first 4).
In the irony of ironies, haha, the Sox won the first series, lost the 2nd, and the Cubs won the third, Twins the 4th
So I am taking over Arizona in off season 4.
My star player just won his 3 straight offensive player of the year!
Juggling my roster and thanks btw, setting relievers totally changed roster makeup.
It's awesome to see players get awards in HS, College and come into the pros, neat progression I never knew about.
I am now in the midst of trading and getting new coaches. FWIW I just made a 4 for 2 deal, with all 4 of the players I traded being pretty damn good, and getting a fragile young SP, a very good future middle infielder, and next years #1 pick So I am sitting on the top 2 picks in the draft, my owner better pony up!

Cubs win, yeah baby that's what I'm talking about :crawls back in his hole to "wait for next year":

Hope your draft picks work out but in OOTP, like real life, you never know.

[RBLwebguy]

The beauty thing about OOTP is we have played out many seasons over many different version of the game (well us longtimers) and here is Schilling's career in NARBL an online league that has been going since June of 2002 (real life)

History

Drafted in 1st round, 3rd overall pick, by Milwaukee in 1988...
Earned first career win on 9/6/1989...
Injured on 5/16/1991 with a Inflamed Back Muscle, out for one week...
Injured on 9/10/1991 with a Strained Bicep Muscle, out for 7 weeks...
Traded from New Orleans to Texas on 6/16/1992 (Going to NOR: P Gene Nelson, 1B Sid Bream. Going to TEX: P Curt Schilling, 1B John Jaha)...
Injured on 9/7/1993 with a Inflamed Bicep Tendon, out for 3 weeks...
Traded from Texas to New York (A) on 7/1/1994 (Going to TEX: P Doug Drabek, P Rheal Cormier. Going to NYY: P Curt Schilling)...
Injured on 5/9/1995 with a Pulled Elbow Ligament, out for 1-2 weeks...
Injured on 8/10/1995 with a Strained Back Muscle, out for 5 weeks...
Injured on 10/10/1995 with a Blurred Vision Eye, out for 3 weeks...
Won World Championship with New York (A) in 1995...
1/31/1996: Gets a new one-year contract worth $1,492,857 through salary arbitration...
Injured on 5/9/1996 with a Torn Rotator Cuff Muscle, out for entire career...
Retired in 1997.


Career stats

123 G, 33-60 record, 5.23 ERA, 1.52 WHIP, .497 BABIP

The ironic thing was he won the World Series with the NYY in 1995 going 11-6 that season and with one start in the postseason taking a loss.

He suffered a CEI at 30 years old.

I am a huge Sox fan and this was just wrong

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by gehrig38

Didn't make my varsity team until I was a Senior, pedestrian record, sorta, one year at Yavapai JC, then to the Sox Minor league system through the last January Draft ever, 2nd round pick (my roomate was a 1st round pick and should have been a perennial AS and franchise catcher!)

Wow. I think that's similar to the path Michael Jordan took (I mean, except that they don't have minor league basketball for 19 and 20 year olds, really).

I also have no idea how to tweak ratings to normalize stats.

By that do you mean get the overall level at a point to where the league numbers look like you want them to look? Because that's actually one of the cooler new features of v12. Once you're in the preseason, from the MLB tab you go to League Options and Rules, then to League Setup, then Strategy. Over on the right-hand side there's a bunch of columns for at-bats, hits, doubles, and so on. You can enter those in manually or you can choose a year you want to have the statistical totals look like. Then you click on the button that says I think "Recalc modifiers" and the game will actually quick-sim 3 seasons of your league in 30 seconds and spit out the modifiers below. This to me is awesome and incredibly awesome.

If by tweaking ratings to normalize stats you mean you want the shape of the game to look like baseball (with the right number of stars, good players, AAAA guys, and so on), that's beyond my abilities at this point, sorry... although my general feeling is that the game does a pretty good job in this regard on its own. I am not a mathematician, though, and am not entirely sure how I'd go about testing that.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Are the Sedin sisters in your draft? haha!

...Asked the Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards.