MLB 2023 Season

[monkeyman576]

Originally Posted by Boomcoach

Won't help me watch my teams, until Bally finally gives up the RSNs. Do they have a good evening wrap-up show?

Which teams?

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

my favorite uniform # just became 222

I'd like to be allowed some extra mound visits.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by Boomcoach

That one doesn't thrill me, but I think that the clock is pretty meaningless without it, if the pitcher can just step off any time the clock gets low.

Pretty sure a simple step-off (without a throw to first) counts as a disengagement. And you are allowed two of those. So if a pitcher steps off once (no throw over), and then throws over later in that same plate appearance, that's two. The next disengagement violates the rule unless it results in an out... that's my understanding anyway...

[kq76]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

If anything, the games wrapping up much more quickly might help the league to do away with the ghost runner rule, and if I'm really being a purist here, I'd waaay rather have an enforced pitch clock and no ghost runners instead of extra innings slowing back down to a crawl with the extra guy on 2nd to open every inning.

Yeah, I'd take this too.

Only thing is, the longer anything is done the more entrenched it gets. As much as I dislike it, I don't think we're ever getting rid of the ghostrunner. And the same will go for this. If there's anything we don't like about it we better hope they adjust it this season. To their credit, they did tweak a few things at the end of ST, but nothing to do with end of game.

And I don't believe them for a second when they say that now that players are used to the clock that we won't see a pitch clock violation end a game like it did that Red Sox-Braves ST game. Sooner or later, it'll happen.

[kq76]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

Cards-Blue Jays took well over four hours. In the old days, it would have been five and a half.

I just checked, it went 3:38. And if your team had won, I have no doubt you would have been fine with the time. I thought most of the game that the Cardinals were going to win and I never once thought, "I can't wait for this game to end".

[Boomcoach]

Originally Posted by thehef

Pretty sure a simple step-off (without a throw to first) counts as a disengagement. And you are allowed two of those. So if a pitcher steps off once (no throw over), and then throws over later in that same plate appearance, that's two. The next disengagement violates the rule unless it results in an out... that's my understanding anyway...

Right, that is what I was saying, if poorly. If you allow unlimited throws to first/step-offs, then the pitch clock doesn't work, because the pitcher can just step off to restart it.

[Boomcoach]

Originally Posted by kq76

I just checked, it went 3:38. And if your team had won, I have no doubt you would have been fine with the time. I thought most of the game that the Cardinals were going to win and I never once thought, "I can't wait for this game to end".

I don't know that I ever specifically thought, "I would watch this more if it was 30 minutes faster", but I do know I have switched away from games more quickly because I got bored with nothing happening, even if my team is winning.

One of the reasons I watch less and less baseball and American football is because of the length of time with nothing happening. 3+ hours for 15 minutes of action isn't worth it. Cut that back some, especially with baseball, and I will watch more.

Very few things in life are cut and dried, but tend to be gradual and push into gray areas. People laugh at advertising because they think in black and white terms. No, you don't see an ad and immediately think "hmm, gotta have some of that", but ads shift perceptions of products and increase sales.

Entertainment works the same way. If I have a game on, there is not a magic light that goes off and says, "it has been 14.62 minutes since anyone actually did anything that was entertaining to watch, I will change the channel now". It is more that a game is on, my wife and I are eating or talking, and if the game is losing our interest, it is more likely that we will decide that is enough for tonight and switch to something else.

With streaming, hundreds of channels, not to mention doing things on our phones or on the internet, we have so many more choices now and in most cases it is much easier to have people lose interest and switch off than it is to get them to switch back on.

[dsvitak]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ltercation-fan

Anthony Rendon gets five days for swinging at a fan.

It would have been his first hit all year. Heh heh heh..I'll be here all week, folks! Try the VEAL.

[PutIntoPlay]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ltercation-fan

Anthony Rendon gets five days for swinging at a fan.

It would have been his first hit all year. Heh heh heh..I'll be here all week, folks! Try the VEAL.

Granted, we don't have all the facts, but just watching that clip, I get the feeling that fan deserved it.

[Syd Thrift]

According to lip reading, it looks like Manny Machado was ejected because, according to the umpire, "he called me a douchebag".

https://twitter.com/dannyvietti/stat...8VN7Rtnq9S4qzg

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

According to lip reading, it looks like Manny Machado was ejected because, according to the umpire, "he called me a douchebag".

https://twitter.com/dannyvietti/stat...8VN7Rtnq9S4qzg

It's been my long-standing opinion that Manny Machado is a platinum-level ****. I watched that game and the Padres guys said that he's the first player to, not be called out on a pitch clock violation, but being ejected for waffling after being called out on a pitch clock violation. Absolutely nothing about this surprises me.

[rudel.dietrich]

This is a homer take. But Brandon Gaudin is a really good play by play guy for his first year.

And it took me until today to realize something else.
My son was off his tablet and watching a game with me and he picked it up in the first inning.
“Dad, that is the Madden guy!”
“What?” (Me very confused)
“He is the voice in Madden when you play games”

Sure enough, he has been a Madden announcer for several years now.


He is good so far!
And he dropped this nugget in only his second game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/co...e_bases_three/


That is some pretty serious confidence in your job security.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by Westheim

It's been my long-standing opinion that Manny Machado is a platinum-level ****. I watched that game and the Padres guys said that he's the first player to, not be called out on a pitch clock violation, but being ejected for waffling after being called out on a pitch clock violation. Absolutely nothing about this surprises me.

Some guys make themselves very easy to root against. Manny is one of those. (Unless you're a Padre fan or like rooting for jerks ) As a Dodger fan, it was pretty hard to root for him during that half year he spent on the team, and it was very easy to bid him adieu aftewards...

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by thehef

Some guys make themselves very easy to root against. Manny is one of those. (Unless you're a Padre fan or like rooting for jerks ) As a Dodger fan, it was pretty hard to root for him during that half year he spent on the team, and it was very easy to bid him adieu aftewards...

...and I was even rooting for him back years ago when he tore his knee all to bits (twice!), but it's getting harder to not punch the screen when he's at the plate.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by Westheim

...and I was even rooting for him back years ago when he tore his knee all to bits (twice!), but it's getting harder to not punch the screen when he's at the plate.

Wait. Aren't you the guy that openly roots for the jerks in Nascar?

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by thehef

Wait. Aren't you the guy that openly roots for the jerks in Nascar?

I have this reputation, just because Jeff Gordon beat the crap out of Jeff Burton *once* ...!

[thehef]

Originally Posted by Westheim

I have this reputation, just because Jeff Gordon beat the crap out of Jeff Burton *once* ...!

So as to not hijack, I replied to this in the Nascar thread

[thehef]

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2621023

I wonder how long we'll be able to say that he's the only one to get a pitch clock violation both on the mound and at the plate in the same game. Methinks probably a while...

[pilight]

The A's reported 3407 in attendance Tuesday. Most AAA teams draw better.

[CONN CHRIS]

My son and I are going to see the Hartford Yard Goats v Bowie Baysox tonight. AA game. May have roughly twice the paid attendance of yesterday's A's game.