Cash question

[daveyk]

I did a search for this and couldn't find anything.

How/when does a team's cash situation change?

I started the year with just over $1M cash.

Promotional events dropped that number to about $380K by the June 1 draft.

Signing bonuses dropped me to -$300K.

The thing is, several weeks after the draft, the number has not changed at all. My payroll is well below my revenue, so I was expecting to see this number climb by small increments.

When is available cash adjusted upwards because of revenue in the game?

Or is the cash you are shown essentially your "budget" for the year and will never go up until you get the next year's budget?

[bulldog55]

It updates at the end of every season based on profit/loss.

[daveyk]

Thanks for the response.

I'd suggest that signing bonuses for rookies ought to come out of your "new players/free agents" budget, rather than your "cash" budget.

[kq76]

Originally Posted by daveyk

Thanks for the response.

I'd suggest that signing bonuses for rookies ought to come out of your "new players/free agents" budget, rather than your "cash" budget.

Are draft pick bonuses paid up front, during the course of a contract (like salaries are in OOTP), or at the end of a contract? Irregardless, IMO a bigger issue than bonuses being paid up front in OOTP (I imagine this mirrors real life) is that (aside from a trade) your cash cannot increase during the season. Hopefully we'll get a much more robust financial system in v7.

[daveyk]

Originally Posted by kq76

Are draft pick bonuses paid up front, during the course of a contract (like salaries are in OOTP), or at the end of a contract?

At the start of the draft, I had $380K. During the draft, I got confirm messages for each pick saying (paraphrase) "Signing bonus: X. Cash available: Y." At the end of the draft, I had $-300K.

So clearly they are paid up front, as they should be.

Luckily, the game allows you to go negative in cash or I'd have been unable to draft after round 2!

Obvioulsy something to be looked at here.

[kq76]

I realize that. I was asking about MLB. I imagine some are all up front, some are not.

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by daveyk

Thanks for the response.

I'd suggest that signing bonuses for rookies ought to come out of your "new players/free agents" budget, rather than your "cash" budget.

"Cash" isn't a budget like the "$$ left for" figures; it's actual cash on hand. There's no actual money behind the "$$ left for" numbers, just calculations.

Also, signing bonuses do get taken out of the "free agent money" figure, sort of, because cash is included in the calculation (basically last year's revenue + cash - current payroll).

[daveyk]

Sorry.

By nature, a signing bonus is always paid up front. That said, I imagine how they happen in real-life is subject to the terms of the agreement. There can always be negotiation to spread payments out and clauses if certain things happen, so long as the player agrees to it or is properly incented.

But that's just applying logic to it...may not be a good idea when it comes to compensation in professional sports.

[jbmagic]

speaking of cash

for existing solo leagues
if you have players not on the 40 man roster and have MLB contract 300,000 or higher does new ootp 6.10 force you to put them on the 40 man roster before you play?

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

speaking of cash

for existing solo leagues
if you have players not on the 40 man roster and have MLB contract 300,000 or higher does new ootp 6.10 force you to put them on the 40 man roster before you play?

I'm fairly sure that it doesn't. Just newly acquired players with MLB contracts have to go onto the 40-man roster. (Incidentially, if you want to put a newly acquired MLB-contracted player in the minors, he most likely will have to clear waivers first... and once he clears, not only can you put him in the minors but you can remove him from the 40-man too. Not much of a requirement... )

EDIT: However, you are still on the hook for his contract, even if you remove him from the 40-man. It doesn't transform into a minor-league contract or anything like that.

[jbmagic]

"and once he clears, not only can you put him in the minors but you can remove him from the 40-man too. Not much of a requirement... )"

jmm8356

you sure about that....i tought version 6.10 it makes you keep players with mlb contract on the 40 man roster and you are not able to remove him off the 40 man roster even if he clears waiver...

[kq76]

That's what I was trying to say. If they're paid up front I can see why they're taken out of cash. If they were paid out over time you'd likely see them handled like salaries are. Ideally, I think we'd probably want our revenue and expenses put in and taken out of cash throughout the season so there'd be times when we have enough cash and times when we don't. You could then take it as far as borrowing when you're short and saving when you have more than enough. I imagine many would hate managing their cash, but it doesn't have to be as complicated as it sounds and it would give us more flexibility in making decisions.

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

"and once he clears, not only can you put him in the minors but you can remove him from the 40-man too. Not much of a requirement... )"

jmm8356

you sure about that....i tought version 6.10 it makes you keep players with mlb contract on the 40 man roster and you are not able to remove him off the 40 man roster even if he clears waiver...

I'm sure, but only because I just did it.