PLG's running utility discussion

[kq76]

Originally Posted by sporr

Alright, all of the info that we need for correct Pro Service Years is there, we just need to pull the right formula.

Here are the only elements that we need, and all of them can be found in your new utility:
Career Batting = CB
Career Pitching = CP
Minor Batting = MB
Minor Pitching = MP
1st Pro Year = PY
Current Year = CY

First, we need the program to take the lowest year listed in CB, CP, MB, or MP. This is PY regardless of which of the four "boxes" it's in.

Then, CY - PY = Years of Pro Service

Pretty simple I think. It will only be inaccurate for players that spent a full season in FA after their pro time began. But this is a very small % of players. Let me know if you need any other info Pierre, and thanks again!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think you want to do this for players drafted in the initial draft, especially if the league is a young one.

I have 2 threads on this and other service editing stuff at: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...837#post783837
and
http://kbl-ootp-online.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288

Unfortunately, calculating MLB days is not nearly as simple as calculating pro years. In the 2nd thread I show that I eyeballed the best of the results from 2 formulas (the original formula I posted is not one of them) or split the difference. I'll leave it up to you guys how you think most people would want to use this. It might be best to split the difference between the 2 formulas for the utility.

As for options, that's even more difficult because if they were in the minors first then brought up, they should be fine (no option used), but not the other way. It's nearly impossible to tell this for most players though. So for players drafted in the initial year I'm going to leave their options at whatever it is. It's the full 3 for new amateurs this year (assuming you have not simmed at all this year). And for players drafted in between, well last year's would have a minimum (could have more, but must have at least) 2 left, 2 years ago draftees would have a min of 1, and 3 years ago or more could have 0.

[sporr]

Originally Posted by kq76

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think you want to do this for players drafted in the initial draft, especially if the league is a young one.

I have 2 threads on this and other service editing stuff at: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...837#post783837
and
http://kbl-ootp-online.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288

Unfortunately, calculating MLB days is not nearly as simple as calculating pro years. In the 2nd thread I show that I eyeballed the best of the results from 2 formulas (the original formula I posted is not one of them) or split the difference. I'll leave it up to you guys how you think most people would want to use this. It might be best to split the difference between the 2 formulas for the utility.

As for options, that's even more difficult because if they were in the minors first then brought up, they should be fine (no option used), but not the other way. It's nearly impossible to tell this for most players though. So for players drafted in the initial year I'm going to leave their options at whatever it is. It's the full 3 for new amateurs this year (assuming you have not simmed at all this year). And for players drafted in between, well last year's would have a minimum (could have more, but must have at least) 2 left, 2 years ago draftees would have a min of 1, and 3 years ago or more could have 0.

I think the formula above works just fine for Pro Service Years. If they are real major leaguers, their prior years of stats show up in the utility, so you won't have Barry Bonds with only 2 Years of Pro Service, unless you didn't bring in his prior career stats of course.

[kq76]

Originally Posted by sporr

I think the formula above works just fine for Pro Service Years. If they are real major leaguers, their prior years of stats show up in the utility, so you won't have Barry Bonds with only 2 Years of Pro Service, unless you didn't bring in his prior career stats of course.

But I'm not thinking of a league with real imported players, I'm thinking of a fictional league. (Good thing you brought the difference up though as I've never played with the former.) Say your fictional league has just started year 3. By the above formula, the most pro years any player will have is 2. You'll have no players eligible for FA, arbitration, rule 5, etc. I doubt that is what most people want. Perhaps the utility can have an option of which formula to use depending on if its a real imported stats league or a fictional league. And the only difference for the fictional option is pro years for players drafted in the initial draft is not changed. And if they really want players to have a max pro years the same as the # of years of the league, people can use the real league option for their fictional league.

[PLG]

I think OOTP files contain the experience of the player. Maybe this could help

for calculating everything correclty.

I will take a look tomorrow and let you know.

[Matteo]

Originally Posted by sporr

Alright, all of the info that we need for correct Pro Service Years is there, we just need to pull the right formula.

Here are the only elements that we need, and all of them can be found in your new utility:
Career Batting = CB
Career Pitching = CP
Minor Batting = MB
Minor Pitching = MP
1st Pro Year = PY
Current Year = CY

First, we need the program to take the lowest year listed in CB, CP, MB, or MP. This is PY regardless of which of the four "boxes" it's in.

Then, CY - PY = Years of Pro Service

We started in 2003 with GForce rosters, and used the following formula (CY = 2008)

PY < 2003: CY - PY + 2 (since PY is based on his 1st year of major league stats, and on average he was 2 years in minors)
PY = 2003 (player drafted in our 2003 draft): CY - PY
PY = 2003 (player NOT drafted in our 2003 draft): CY - PY + 1 (assuming he had 1 year of minor league stats on average, many had only minor league stats in 2003)
PY > 2003: CY - PY

[PLG]

Ok, I updated the result and added the Experience and the

year based on the experience. Another suprise, the experience

seems to be wrong in some case and correct in other cases.

Some players has 0 year of experience, the current year is 2004

and their first year stats are 2002. In that case experience should be 2.

I wonder if I could update players in that case only this way:

if EXP = 0 and CurrentYear - FirstYear > 0 then EXP = CurrentYear - FirstYear

At least, this specific case will be fix. For the rest, I dont know

What do you think?

Thanks

Updated Utility

http://www.liguemtl.com/download/PYear.zip