Patch 6.02A makes game run slower? - Page 2

akw4572 · 05-26-2004, 10:01 PM

Mine's been slower through the first couple of days (i play games out), but a LOT of transactions have occured. I'm hoping as the AI adjusts to the rosters it'll quicken up.

kingcharlesxii · 05-26-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by darrylr
Everyone who says they don't see any change...

Did you run a full season and do you have it so that you can have the expanded major league roster in September? On my system I didn't really see any change until Sept. 1. It took about 5 minutes to sim to the end of August but 10 minutes to do just Sept. on my machine.

-Darryl

I'm approaching September now and I'm one who didn't see any difference. We'll see if I hit slowness after I hit September. I did notice many more trade offers at the trade deadline than I have in the past.

gmo · 05-26-2004, 10:10 PM

This could be tested a little more "scientisticly". Generate (or just take) a league, back it up, run it on 6.02a through a season while being timed, then take the backup and run it on 6.01 through a season while being timed. Compare the results, the times as well as the transaction logs.

kingcharlesxii · 05-26-2004, 10:39 PM

OK I hit September and it definitely seems slower now. I'm not sure why. I sim day by day and I'd say each day takes about 2 seconds more and end of week takes 5 seconds more.

If someone wants to do a scientific study, I'd be interested to see the results.

atomheart · 05-26-2004, 10:54 PM

6.02a is much slower. I jumped on the boards to see if anyone else has the problem, and it's obvious many have.

Hopefully the big update won't slow things down even more.

JamesOOTP · 05-26-2004, 11:06 PM

I'm hping Markus can address the "slowing down" of the game in another patch. The updates are great but man, its taking forever just to sim a month. I've time mine. It takes 4 minutes on 6.01 to sim a month. On 6.02 it took 15 minutes. Thats 3.75 X slower

kingfc22 · 05-26-2004, 11:08 PM

It is much slower indeed.

darrylr · 05-26-2004, 11:11 PM

gmo,

That is pretty much what I did. I have a template league folder that is right before the season starts for my 40 team fictional league that I reuse over and over. I copy the exact entire league folder when I run my tests. It was very consistent with 6.01 at 5-6 minutes per entire season from the first boxscore to the last on my machine. The exact same league folder on 6.02a takes 15 minutes from boxscore #1 to boxscore #3240. The majority of the time is spent simming September and visually appears to be mostly spent at the Day End and Week End periods.

I didn't compare the # of transactions though.

-Darryl

mrDriller · 05-26-2004, 11:32 PM

P3 1GHz
512 MB RAM
Win ME

Took 2 hours and 26 minutes to sim 2 years with default roster and settings. I'm pretty sure I could get through 2 years in under an hour in 6.01, and I could test that by reinstalling 6.01, but...unfortunately I don't have time.

Cowboys3356 · 05-26-2004, 11:35 PM

The difference must be that the AI is checking rosters more and making various decisions. However I would think there is a way for that to happen without extended delays.

Thanos · 05-26-2004, 11:44 PM

1.4 Ghz, 512, XP

MUCH, MUCH Slower. Up to 50 seconds just to finish a day.

Zweiblumen · 05-26-2004, 11:46 PM

Seems a little slower to me too, but I think this should be expected. With the full waiver system turned on there is a lot for each computer team to think about. Could it be optimized? Perhaps....will it ever be so fast you don't notice it....I doubt it.

thomamon · 05-26-2004, 11:51 PM

I actually think it seems faster on mine.

I am running:
Win XP Pro
P4 2.66
1 Gig Memory

TM

EJ · 05-27-2004, 12:05 AM

Running notably slower.

AthlonXP 3000
1Gig Memory
Windows XP Pro

Zweiblumen · 05-27-2004, 12:15 AM

Pheh, if I can run it on my PII 450 with 128 Megs of ram then I'm sure you guys are fine :P

Skipaway · 05-27-2004, 12:26 AM

Glad to see people complaining about speed!

This gotta teach something to those who's asking for more features at the cost of game speed.

RayofHope · 05-27-2004, 01:28 AM

Interesting to see that it appears the people with pimped out hyper speed running machines seem to be the ones that "don't notice a difference."

No kidding.

If you're running with a clock speed over 2 ghz and you've got 1 gig plus of RAM, of course you shouldn't see much of a difference. If you do, you're either badly weighed down with music or porn, have a virus, or have the wrong specs.

If you've got 128 meg of RAM and a clock speed around or less than 1 Ghz, of course you're more likely to notice a slow down - and it's these types of system I'd think reflect trully whether or not 6.02a is slowing down the game.

rommeliv · 05-27-2004, 01:50 AM

Well one way to tell the difference by disabling waivers and whatnot in league setup and see if that changes anything

Dargone · 05-27-2004, 02:25 AM

Quote:

If you're running with a clock speed over 2 ghz and you've got 1 gig plus of RAM, of course you shouldn't see much of a difference. If you do, you're either badly weighed down with music or porn, have a virus, or have the wrong specs.

Well, I have a pretty beefy system(see above post)and it's noticeably slower for me. I also just did a full restore last week so it's definitely not music, porn or a virus...

Hotwheelz · 05-27-2004, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dargone
Well, I have a pretty beefy system(see above post)and it's noticeably slower for me. I also just did a full restore last week so it's definitley not music, porn or a virus...

Yes, I know of a few other people who have noticed a slow down, and they have pretty beefy systems also.

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05-26-2004, 10:10 PM	#23
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,390	This could be tested a little more "scientisticly". Generate (or just take) a league, back it up, run it on 6.02a through a season while being timed, then take the backup and run it on 6.01 through a season while being timed. Compare the results, the times as well as the transaction logs. __________________ Making Baseball Schedules

05-26-2004, 10:39 PM	#24
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	OK I hit September and it definitely seems slower now. I'm not sure why. I sim day by day and I'd say each day takes about 2 seconds more and end of week takes 5 seconds more. If someone wants to do a scientific study, I'd be interested to see the results. __________________ OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

05-26-2004, 11:06 PM	#26
JamesOOTP Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 81	I'm hping Markus can address the "slowing down" of the game in another patch. The updates are great but man, its taking forever just to sim a month. I've time mine. It takes 4 minutes on 6.01 to sim a month. On 6.02 it took 15 minutes. Thats 3.75 X slower __________________ Save the interns- vote Bush

05-26-2004, 11:08 PM	#27
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	It is much slower indeed. __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits

05-26-2004, 10:01 PM	#21
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	Mine's been slower through the first couple of days (i play games out), but a LOT of transactions have occured. I'm hoping as the AI adjusts to the rosters it'll quicken up.

05-26-2004, 10:54 PM	#25
atomheart Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 454	6.02a is much slower. I jumped on the boards to see if anyone else has the problem, and it's obvious many have. Hopefully the big update won't slow things down even more.

05-26-2004, 11:11 PM	#28
darrylr Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 89	gmo, That is pretty much what I did. I have a template league folder that is right before the season starts for my 40 team fictional league that I reuse over and over. I copy the exact entire league folder when I run my tests. It was very consistent with 6.01 at 5-6 minutes per entire season from the first boxscore to the last on my machine. The exact same league folder on 6.02a takes 15 minutes from boxscore #1 to boxscore #3240. The majority of the time is spent simming September and visually appears to be mostly spent at the Day End and Week End periods. I didn't compare the # of transactions though. -Darryl

05-26-2004, 11:32 PM	#29
mrDriller Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 18	P3 1GHz 512 MB RAM Win ME Took 2 hours and 26 minutes to sim 2 years with default roster and settings. I'm pretty sure I could get through 2 years in under an hour in 6.01, and I could test that by reinstalling 6.01, but...unfortunately I don't have time.

05-26-2004, 11:35 PM	#30
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,572	The difference must be that the AI is checking rosters more and making various decisions. However I would think there is a way for that to happen without extended delays.

05-26-2004, 11:44 PM	#31
Thanos Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mid MO Posts: 84	1.4 Ghz, 512, XP MUCH, MUCH Slower. Up to 50 seconds just to finish a day. __________________ I bleed Cardinal red.

05-26-2004, 11:46 PM	#32
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Seems a little slower to me too, but I think this should be expected. With the full waiver system turned on there is a lot for each computer team to think about. Could it be optimized? Perhaps....will it ever be so fast you don't notice it....I doubt it.

05-26-2004, 11:51 PM	#33
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	I actually think it seems faster on mine. I am running: Win XP Pro P4 2.66 1 Gig Memory TM __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

05-27-2004, 12:05 AM	#34
EJ Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pacific NW, USA Posts: 145	Running notably slower. AthlonXP 3000 1Gig Memory Windows XP Pro Last edited by EJ; 05-28-2004 at 12:22 PM.

05-27-2004, 12:15 AM	#35
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Pheh, if I can run it on my PII 450 with 128 Megs of ram then I'm sure you guys are fine :P

05-27-2004, 12:26 AM	#36
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Glad to see people complaining about speed! This gotta teach something to those who's asking for more features at the cost of game speed. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

05-27-2004, 01:28 AM	#37
RayofHope Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 275	Interesting to see that it appears the people with pimped out hyper speed running machines seem to be the ones that "don't notice a difference." No kidding. If you're running with a clock speed over 2 ghz and you've got 1 gig plus of RAM, of course you shouldn't see much of a difference. If you do, you're either badly weighed down with music or porn, have a virus, or have the wrong specs. If you've got 128 meg of RAM and a clock speed around or less than 1 Ghz, of course you're more likely to notice a slow down - and it's these types of system I'd think reflect trully whether or not 6.02a is slowing down the game.

05-27-2004, 01:50 AM	#38
rommeliv Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 32	Well one way to tell the difference by disabling waivers and whatnot in league setup and see if that changes anything