OSU vs. UM - Page 6

ey215 · 11-25-2003, 01:22 PM

I've decided to take my rankings of each time period, add them up and then figure out which is the best. I haven't done this until now so I'm not really sure how it will turn out. I also did all of my rankings above on each part of the data individually, not as a whole.

Rankings:

ACC (14pts)
Big Ten (13pts)
SEC (13 pts)
Pacific 10 (10pts)
Big XII (9pts)
Big East (4pts)

I used the entire conference rankings for the last 20 years, 10 years, and 5 years and then gave each place points, i.e. 1st place=6 pts, 2nd place=5 pts, etc.

In order to break the tie between the Big Ten and the SEC I used the past 5 years, conference top 6 against conference top 6 rankings.

I will for a final time point out sample size as I'm not sure any of the rankings over the last 5 years are really valid, but for the sake of arguement I have included them.

marc · 11-25-2003, 08:01 PM

Well it looks like the Big Ten does quite well in all of those statistics. I slightly agree on the point with Pac-10 Big 10 thing about most games being at the Big 10 schools field, however I think it can pretty much be agreed by everyone that it is much more difficult to go out west then to come east. The top 6 schools data was exactly what I said I wanted in the last post and the results didn't really shock me. Maybe a bottom 3 vs bottom 3 stat would be helpful as well??

skkrrt · 11-25-2003, 09:58 PM

The ACC is better then I though, though, how many games out of conference do they generaly play each year vs decent teams (aka not Big East teams not named Miami, Va Tech or Pit)

kingfc22 · 12-27-2003, 05:27 PM

Just couldn't resist to bump this thread back to the top. For all those Pac-10 haters and USC overlookers, I hope you watched CAL beat Va. Tech, who beat Miami earlier this year, last night without their top receiver.

I guess USC's loss in overtime to Cal isn't so bad after all. huh?

scoobz0202 · 12-27-2003, 08:19 PM

Va Tech shut down late season didnt they?

Skipaway · 01-01-2004, 10:32 PM

So much for this UM and OSU talk.

Michigan had given up only five TD passes during the season, and now gave up four to USC.

They allowed only 15 sacks during the season, and now gave up 9 to USC.

Great teams indeed.

drprestwood · 01-01-2004, 11:54 PM

what is with the bumping of old threads?

and kingfc, yes, USC's loss to cal was bad. cal is not good.

va tech has issues.

scoobz0202 · 01-02-2004, 01:43 AM

OSU still hasn't played

scoobz0202 · 01-03-2004, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skipaway

Great teams indeed.

OSU showed up tonight

twins15 · 01-03-2004, 01:32 AM

With help from the officials at the end.

scoobz0202 · 01-03-2004, 01:33 AM

Same as last year, ay?

Buckeyes have the Refs in their backpockets.

BarryUSBonds · 01-03-2004, 01:44 AM

First of all Cal is good, and second of all Va Tech does have issues, but I have to dispute the fact you say Cal is not good.

kingfc22 · 01-03-2004, 05:11 PM

Cal is a Pac-10 team therefore they are no good. This is the logic that applies to most people who are in hte Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12 regions. Probably stems from the fact that Pac-10 games are played late PST time and nobody watches their games.

marc · 01-05-2004, 12:38 AM

Sorry guys but the officials didn't cost KSU the game, they got dominated. Plain and simple. Fact of the matter is if Krenzel doesnt underthrow 2 balls its 35-7 at halftime, but again OSU gets no credit for anything they do. Also I'd like to congratulate UM for laying an egg against USC I was actually rooting for them

Bobbuttons · 01-05-2004, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marc
Sorry guys but the officials didn't cost KSU the game, they got dominated. Plain and simple. Fact of the matter is if Krenzel doesnt underthrow 2 balls its 35-7 at halftime, but again OSU gets no credit for anything they do. Also I'd like to congratulate UM for laying an egg against USC I was actually rooting for them

Here, Here!

drprestwood · 01-05-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BarryUSBonds
First of all Cal is good, and second of all Va Tech does have issues, but I have to dispute the fact you say Cal is not good.

If you want to dispute that, give me a reason.

Here are mine:

Games good teams would have won:
Colorado State at home
Oregon State at home
UCLA on the road

Wins against teams over .500:
USC
Va Tech
Southern Miss

View Poll Results: Who will win tomorrow's Big Ten showdown?
Ohio State	7	33.33%
Michigan	14	66.67%
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11-25-2003, 01:22 PM	#101
ey215 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 581	I've decided to take my rankings of each time period, add them up and then figure out which is the best. I haven't done this until now so I'm not really sure how it will turn out. I also did all of my rankings above on each part of the data individually, not as a whole. Rankings: ACC (14pts) Big Ten (13pts) SEC (13 pts) Pacific 10 (10pts) Big XII (9pts) Big East (4pts) I used the entire conference rankings for the last 20 years, 10 years, and 5 years and then gave each place points, i.e. 1st place=6 pts, 2nd place=5 pts, etc. In order to break the tie between the Big Ten and the SEC I used the past 5 years, conference top 6 against conference top 6 rankings. I will for a final time point out sample size as I'm not sure any of the rankings over the last 5 years are really valid, but for the sake of arguement I have included them. __________________ "It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before. Most of all, it is about time and timelessness, speed and grace, failure and loss, imperishable hope - and coming home." Ken Burns, Baseball

11-25-2003, 08:01 PM	#102
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Well it looks like the Big Ten does quite well in all of those statistics. I slightly agree on the point with Pac-10 Big 10 thing about most games being at the Big 10 schools field, however I think it can pretty much be agreed by everyone that it is much more difficult to go out west then to come east. The top 6 schools data was exactly what I said I wanted in the last post and the results didn't really shock me. Maybe a bottom 3 vs bottom 3 stat would be helpful as well?? __________________

11-25-2003, 09:58 PM	#103
skkrrt Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 410	The ACC is better then I though, though, how many games out of conference do they generaly play each year vs decent teams (aka not Big East teams not named Miami, Va Tech or Pit) __________________ Tiger of the Week: Nate Robertson-3rd in the AL in strikeouts (24).

12-27-2003, 05:27 PM	#104
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	Just couldn't resist to bump this thread back to the top. For all those Pac-10 haters and USC overlookers, I hope you watched CAL beat Va. Tech, who beat Miami earlier this year, last night without their top receiver. I guess USC's loss in overtime to Cal isn't so bad after all. huh? __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits

12-27-2003, 08:19 PM	#105
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	Va Tech shut down late season didnt they?

01-01-2004, 10:32 PM	#106
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	So much for this UM and OSU talk. Michigan had given up only five TD passes during the season, and now gave up four to USC. They allowed only 15 sacks during the season, and now gave up 9 to USC. Great teams indeed. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

01-01-2004, 11:54 PM	#107
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	what is with the bumping of old threads? and kingfc, yes, USC's loss to cal was bad. cal is not good. va tech has issues.

01-02-2004, 01:43 AM	#108
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	OSU still hasn't played

01-03-2004, 01:32 AM	#110
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	With help from the officials at the end. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

01-03-2004, 01:33 AM	#111
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	Same as last year, ay? Buckeyes have the Refs in their backpockets.

01-03-2004, 01:44 AM	#112
BarryUSBonds Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: McCovey Cove:) Posts: 203	First of all Cal is good, and second of all Va Tech does have issues, but I have to dispute the fact you say Cal is not good.

01-03-2004, 05:11 PM	#113
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	Cal is a Pac-10 team therefore they are no good. This is the logic that applies to most people who are in hte Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12 regions. Probably stems from the fact that Pac-10 games are played late PST time and nobody watches their games. __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits

01-05-2004, 12:38 AM	#114
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Sorry guys but the officials didn't cost KSU the game, they got dominated. Plain and simple. Fact of the matter is if Krenzel doesnt underthrow 2 balls its 35-7 at halftime, but again OSU gets no credit for anything they do. Also I'd like to congratulate UM for laying an egg against USC I was actually rooting for them __________________