Your top 3 for league MVP

[krownroyal83]

Firstly, what are the most important stats you look for in choosing an MVP? Also what would your top 3 be, based on the guys in the screenshot below?

[malor]

What did there teams do in the standings.
In my mind, the player with the with a 4.5 WAR on a losing team is not an MVP because he did not help the team win. Same with a player that leads in HR. If you team is in last place, so what. His HRs did not matter.

How the team need the player results is more important so there is not enough info here to vote.

[kq76]

I was just doing this last night...

Batter = WAR (I make pitchers ineligible for MVP, so my MVP award is a Batter of the Year award instead)

Pitcher = rWAR (and IP and RA9, not fWAR)

Reliever = WPA (and SD and MD)

Custom = Baserunning/Basestealing = BsR

Golden Bat = wRC (I prefer it over wRC+)

Golden Glove = ZR and Eff (and FRM and RTO% for catchers)

Series MVPs = WPA (I like how it factors in leverage)

[krownroyal83]

Originally Posted by kq76

I was just doing this last night...

Batter = WAR (I make pitchers ineligible for MVP, so my MVP award is a Batter of the Year award instead)

Pitcher = rWAR (and IP and RA9, not fWAR)

Reliever = WPA (and SD and MD)

Custom = Baserunning/Basestealing = BsR

Golden Bat = wRC (I prefer it over wRC+)

Golden Glove = ZR and Eff (and FRM and RTO% for catchers)

Series MVPs = WPA (I like how it factors in leverage)

Yeah to decide MVP im kinda using a point system using what I think are the 2 most important batting stats. War and wRC+.

[krownroyal83]

Originally Posted by malor

What did there teams do in the standings.
In my mind, the player with the with a 4.5 WAR on a losing team is not an MVP because he did not help the team win. Same with a player that leads in HR. If you team is in last place, so what. His HRs did not matter.

How the team need the player results is more important so there is not enough info here to vote.

I agree with you that it's better if the player actually makes the playoffs as he's a better help to his team, but it's ultimately it's player MVP not team MVP. So I take it is most valuable player to the league however this is a custom award so I kinda wouldn't mind having the award be more of a team MVP. So making the playoffs would have to be requisite to winning the award

[textilemonster]

I'm not one to completely dismiss the idea that a team's performance should affect whether or not a player gets MVP (it's good for a tiebreaker, and here we're talking about YOUR choice in YOUR game), but it does make me think that if a great season on a team that didn't make the playoffs shouldn't get MVP, then by similar logic, a very good season by a player on a team that barely reaches the playoffs is more deserving of MVP than a great season by a player on a team that runs away with its division.
If a team wins its division by 20 games, it probably would have made the playoffs without the guy, unless he had a truly historic season. Meanwhile, the team that would be sitting at home if it had lost one more game would certainly not have made the playoffs without the solid performance of... whoever we're talking about here.

Honestly, I think it would be interesting if the MVP Award was definitively defined as the "best performance award" or whatever, and then we also had a "lynchpin award" where we pick who was most important to their team's success, and it would include things like leadership as well as performance. THAT would make for some fun discussions in the Fall!

[malor]

Originally Posted by textilemonster

I'm not one to completely dismiss the idea that a team's performance should affect whether or not a player gets MVP (it's good for a tiebreaker, and here we're talking about YOUR choice in YOUR game), but it does make me think that if a great season on a team that didn't make the playoffs shouldn't get MVP, then by similar logic, a very good season by a player on a team that barely reaches the playoffs is more deserving of MVP than a great season by a player on a team that runs away with its division.
If a team wins its division by 20 games, it probably would have made the playoffs without the guy, unless he had a truly historic season. Meanwhile, the team that would be sitting at home if it had lost one more game would certainly not have made the playoffs without the solid performance of... whoever we're talking about here.

Honestly, I think it would be interesting if the MVP Award was definitively defined as the "best performance award" or whatever, and then we also had a "lynchpin award" where we pick who was most important to their team's success, and it would include things like leadership as well as performance. THAT would make for some fun discussions in the Fall!

Exactly. With everyone's definition of MVP slightly different, having two awards would work. Especially if they are defined as you did above.