Maybe a dumb question, but does the development lab work with recalc

[uruguru]

For example, if I am trying to improve the defense of my left fielder with some off-season training, will the annual recalc constantly reset his defensive metrics without any memory of the development work.


If I teach a pitcher a new pitch, will he forget it in the next off-season?

[Rain King]

I've not specifically tested it, but I would not think any Dev. Lab improvements (just like any other changes caused by the development engine) would carry through a Recalc.

The entire purpose of the Recalc is to "reset" the players ratings specifically based on the new year/time period.

[Syd Thrift]

I *think* an exception was carved out specifically regarding training guys at new positions, but for anything else, no, when the game recalcs ratings every preseason it will wash away whatever ratings and developmental changes that occurred before.

[uruguru]

Thanks, guys. That's sort of what I figured. I guess it would still be useful if you had a decent 3B that you wanted to prime for SS every season and were willing to repeat the training every year.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by uruguru

Thanks, guys. That's sort of what I figured. I guess it would still be useful if you had a decent 3B that you wanted to prime for SS every season and were willing to repeat the training every year.

That's not what Syd said. I agree with Syd's analysis.

[uruguru]

I know what Syd said. The off-season development training comes after the recalc, though, so you would conceivably get the benefit of any training for the following season before the next recalc wiped it out.

[Brad K]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. Does the dev lab improve arm, range, and error ratings? Or does it give experience at a new position and thus a rating at that position?

Is dev lab an expansion of the ability to train a player to play a new position in his category (IF or OF) in spring training? Or is it something else where a an IF with lousy OF ratings for arm, range, and error can improve them and thus play OF?

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by uruguru

I know what Syd said. The off-season development training comes after the recalc, though, so you would conceivably get the benefit of any training for the following season before the next recalc wiped it out.

The training I’m talking about is the 1-250 experience rating. If the game gives a player skills enough to play shortstop, for instance, and you train them at third, they should retain that experience to the next season (the reverse is rarely going to work, as even a good 3B is probably not playing short for a reason, namely that they lack range). It’s not going to retain any of the range, hands, or arm ratings you might have gotten from a development lab.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

The training I’m talking about is the 1-250 experience rating. If the game gives a player skills enough to play shortstop, for instance, and you train them at third, they should retain that experience to the next season (the reverse is rarely going to work, as even a good 3B is probably not playing short for a reason, namely that they lack range). It’s not going to retain any of the range, hands, or arm ratings you might have gotten from a development lab.

Yes, I know about those exceptions in the 1-250 rating and honestly I'm glad that's retained now.

Let's say you two decent-hitting 3B. Take the best defensive one in the off-season, work on his defense and slap him at SS where you might have a black hole.

So you would lose those improved ratings in the recalc, but you'd at least get their benefit for one season. Then you'd have to do it again, I guess.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. Does the dev lab improve arm, range, and error ratings?

It can.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by uruguru

It can.

So the game now makes it possible, even if not likely, to train a player to play in a category (IF, OF, C) that he never played RL?

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Brad K

So the game now makes it possible, even if not likely, to train a player to play in a category (IF, OF, C) that he never played RL?

You can teach them new positions (it choose randomly based on what they currently know) and you can improve their fielding ratings for positions they already know. What this means is that a good 2B or 3B could conceivably become viable at SS, or a good RF could become a viable CF -- if you had luck with the training.

[Brad K]

So it's an extension of the program we had before where we could train someone to play an in category position.

[Brad K]

Players trained in ST to play a position don't lose that skill the next year unless their ratings for the category fall.

[fredbeene]

why can't the recalc INCLUDE or EXCLUDE the year you just played. If so then recalc would contain all improvments