[UPDATED Sep 13!] OOTP 24 public beta patch (version 24.9.80) available!

[Matt Arnold]

Update September 13: We have launched a new build, version 24.9.80. See the updated changelist below.

Important: This patch is only for OOTP 24 versions which were purchased directly from us or resellers who use our version. It is also available via the Steam client with the public password below.
It is NOT compatible with the Mac OSX AppStore or Epic version!

Hi everybody!

We are continuing to fix reported issues and make updates, so here is a new public beta, version 24.9.78. Please give it a try if you'd like to help

Use this at your own risk! Please back up important league files before loading them in this beta. This patch is compatible with the previous patch for online leagues - exports will work between versions, however both clients and the commish need to update to benefit from the online league fixes.

Changelist (24.9.80):
Updated some Live Start issues and rosters
PT: Added a new Team Score in top area and on the managers ranking screen. We'll explain this new score in detail once it's officially live.

Changelist (24.9.78):
Fixed ball levitating outside of glove on different player model scales
Fixed many issues with live start rosters, injuries. Fixed H/E in live starts games log
Fixed issues with owner goal evaluation (financial goals, some evaluations not scaling properly)
Adjusted coach relationship with players (should cause less impossible signings, especially during the season)
Fixed not being allowed to offer up to arbitration estimate
Fixed owners injecting too much cash when no revenue available
Fixed IAFA offers not counting properly when owner does not control budget
Fixed minor league players getting rated too highly with no real stats
Fixed minor league DFA players when over roster limits due to rehab assignments
Adjusted historical defense ratings
PT: Added park info to team popup, Next Game home page widget
PT: Added your current card count to card shop export

How to access the beta on Steam:

• Quit OOTP 24 if it's running.
• Open Steam client -> Library
• Right click on Out of the Park Baseball 24
• Click on "Properties" at the bottom of the menu
• Click on the beta tab. Here, enter the following code / password: ootp24betapt
• Click on "Check code"
• Open the beta pull-down and select "publicbeta".
• Close the Steam client (Steam menu -> Exit)
• Open the client again. It should then download the beta build.

Update Info for our webstore customers: To apply the update, simply download the setup file and install it over your current installation. There is no need to uninstall or unlicense your current copy! However, you should quit the game before installing it, of course. Updates always contain all the changes from previous updates. Saved games are compatible between different versions.

Download link for PC Beta (Fastspring Webstore Version):
Main server: PC Installer

Here's a PC installer (Fastspring) that installs into a single folder, which is useful for external HDs for example. Or for creating a second test install of the game, so you can try the patch out without the risk of messing up your main install of the game if something is wrong in the patch:
PC Single Folder Installer

Download link for Mac (FastSpring):
Main Server: Mac OSX Installer

Please post here if you have any issues or if you run into problems. Thanks!

Cheers,
The OOTP Team

[sofla97]

Fixed many issues with live start rosters, injuries. Would that require a new game to see the fixes?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by sofla97

Fixed many issues with live start rosters, injuries. Would that require a new game to see the fixes?

Yes, all the live start issues are only on new games.

[aks62]

Seeing some issues still happening with two-way player demands, both IRL and fictional. I have a fictional league where top 2-ways aren't demanding more than $12M AAVs and neither was offered a qualifying offer.

However, my caveat for the fictional league is that it was created long before the patch (24.7.86, I believe) that resolved this issue. Is the two-way contract asks bug fix retroactive, or only on files created on or after the date of the new patch?

[woofdogsea]

Coach relationships are still wrong. The major league coaches show their relationships to the DSL team

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by aks62

Seeing some issues still happening with two-way player demands, both IRL and fictional. I have a fictional league where top 2-ways aren't demanding more than $12M AAVs and neither was offered a qualifying offer.

However, my caveat for the fictional league is that it was created long before the patch (24.7.86, I believe) that resolved this issue. Is the two-way contract asks bug fix retroactive, or only on files created on or after the date of the new patch?

It should not require a new game to apply, however depending on when the game was updated, if the AI had already made some decisions on players, they may not apply.

Not every two way player will demand the moon, it's hard to say exactly what the impact ends up being. Most of the changes tended to apply more to the top end of the spectrum (ie. Ohtani-like two way players). If the player is more average (like if Lorenzen developed into like an OK outfielder and did both, but neither elite), then most of the recent changes wouldn't really impact them much.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by woofdogsea

Coach relationships are still wrong. The major league coaches show their relationships to the DSL team

On the coach relationship page you can change what team to view their relationships with. Or are you referring to something else?

[coljesep]

"Fixed not being allowed to offer up to arbitration estimate" - appreciate that.

Matt, was the calculation with gate share adjusted that we spoke about? I don't see that on the list.

[percolaten]

On historical exhibitions, whether loaded in exhibition mode or reloaded not in historical exhibition mode, lots of players on teams from 2020-2022 have the lowest possible fielding rating, as opposed to way too high, like it was before. Their range is set all the way down.

[aks62]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It should not require a new game to apply, however depending on when the game was updated, if the AI had already made some decisions on players, they may not apply.

Not every two way player will demand the moon, it's hard to say exactly what the impact ends up being. Most of the changes tended to apply more to the top end of the spectrum (ie. Ohtani-like two way players). If the player is more average (like if Lorenzen developed into like an OK outfielder and did both, but neither elite), then most of the recent changes wouldn't really impact them much.

Thanks, Matt. Unfortunately, I'm referring to a 75-80-grade 2-way who also happens to have high Financial Ambition. He's only asking for about a $10-12M AAV. I feel like that's still low, considering the circumstances.

[snepp]

What are your player evals at? Does he have the numbers to back up the ratings?

I just saw someone posting an Ohtani free agent demand on reddit yesterday, was asking for a 10yr/600M-ish deal.

I haven't had a high quality 2-way guy hit free agency for a long time in my current league, so I don't have any recent first-hand frame of reference.

[Mancandy]

Minor thing but please, for the love of god, fix the bug where players on the 60 Day IL list can lose their numbers. Nothing ruins immersion quite like a future HOF pitcher switching numbers in the prime of his career because he blew out his knee in September and a journeyman utility infielder decided to take his number.

[BusterKing]

Some animations are better, like the balls hit to the pitcher and the bounces. Nice

[aks62]

Originally Posted by snepp

What are your player evals at? Does he have the numbers to back up the ratings?

I just saw someone posting an Ohtani free agent demand on reddit yesterday, was asking for a 10yr/600M-ish deal.

I haven't had a high quality 2-way guy hit free agency for a long time in my current league, so I don't have any recent first-hand frame of reference.

Yeah, the numbers are there. Talking All-Stars, current/former MVPs, the works. They're not getting non-tendered by the AI at the rate they once did, but once they hit FA, I haven't seen one demand more than $12M per year. They're also still rarely offered QO comp.

[snepp]

Originally Posted by aks62

Yeah, the numbers are there. Talking All-Stars, current/former MVPs, the works. They're not getting non-tendered by the AI at the rate they once did, but once they hit FA, I haven't seen one demand more than $12M per year. They're also still rarely offered QO comp.

Gotcha, thought that was cleaned up in one of those last couple patches.

[Logolab77]

@ Ball levitation issue.

The ball is doing the same thing with infielders, mostly after the ball is thrown to them from outfield after an out.

The ball sits on the outside of the glove for about a second then pops snugly into the glove as it should have been.

So instead of the levitation it looks like it is sticking to the glove then pops in.

I am not picky and overall this years update looks great but ball going into the glove after a catch is a pretty fundamental function of baseball...so to have it keep occuring on about 70percent of balls thrown back in from the outfield can accumulate to an immesion killer of the whole 3d visual for those who enjoy watching out games.

I believe I was one of the ones to really open this issue (Logolab77) which I also provided screenshots for in the bug report section.

[EpicLord]

https://i.imgur.com/XqbyUds.jpg

Not specifically related to the new changes, but I was wondering if this was the expected behavior for unsigned college players. Basically, I had the number 2 overall pick, but wanted to holdout for next year and get a comp pick at 3 because I saw a couple prospects I liked way more next year. Not guaranteed to get them, but I figured it was worth a shot and worst case scenario I could probably draft the above pitcher again. He was only 21 at time of draft with only a single year of college stats due to when he was generated, and I thought he would return to college for 1 more year. However, he appears to have instantly became a free agent and signed a minor league contract after failing to sign. If the expected behavior is to become a free agent when failing to sign, this could be easily exploited. Just draft an older college player with your yearly pick, fail to sign them and get a comp pick back, then just sign the player to a major league contract when they are a free agent.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by EpicLord

https://i.imgur.com/XqbyUds.jpg

Not specifically related to the new changes, but I was wondering if this was the expected behavior for unsigned college players. Basically, I had the number 2 overall pick, but wanted to holdout for next year and get a comp pick at 3 because I saw a couple prospects I liked way more next year. Not guaranteed to get them, but I figured it was worth a shot and worst case scenario I could probably draft the above pitcher again. He was only 21 at time of draft with only a single year of college stats due to when he was generated, and I thought he would return to college for 1 more year. However, he appears to have instantly became a free agent and signed a minor league contract after failing to sign. If the expected behavior is to become a free agent when failing to sign, this could be easily exploited. Just draft an older college player with your yearly pick, fail to sign them and get a comp pick back, then just sign the player to a major league contract when they are a free agent.

Depending on their college year, they may or may not re-enter the draft. If they were a college senior then they would become a free agent.

I believe in MLB rules, you have to have offered them at least a portion of the slot value in order to get the compensation pick. I don't believe we have that criteria in the game right now, but certainly something we can also look at adding down the road.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by coljesep

"Fixed not being allowed to offer up to arbitration estimate" - appreciate that.

Matt, was the calculation with gate share adjusted that we spoke about? I don't see that on the list.

Yes, some of the gate share changes did make it in, as well, I believe.

[aks62]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It should not require a new game to apply, however depending on when the game was updated, if the AI had already made some decisions on players, they may not apply.

Not every two way player will demand the moon, it's hard to say exactly what the impact ends up being. Most of the changes tended to apply more to the top end of the spectrum (ie. Ohtani-like two way players). If the player is more average (like if Lorenzen developed into like an OK outfielder and did both, but neither elite), then most of the recent changes wouldn't really impact them much.

Providing a couple examples here from my save. Vanegas was once paid handsomely through arbitration (see the $40.5M salary) but despite accruing 28.7 career pitching WAR and a borderline HOF-worthy case on offense, he never got more than a $23M AAV in FA and for the last several years has demanded only $10M or so on one-year contracts. With the high financial ambition, I find that surprising, even with his age (he's still producing at a 3-4 WAR clip as he's pushing 40; I'd personally expect that to result in a demand closer to $15M-$20M on Day 1, even if he settles later).

Conversely, Noda was not a good pitcher despite good pitching ratings, but despite the low financial ambition, you'd think he would ask for more than $12-14M on Day 1 of FA (he did the same last OS). He's coming off a 6.2 WAR year and could easily demand $25M-$30M+/year if he wanted to off that alone, but he's never done so in arb or FA.

Given Vanegas' high pay back when he was a more reliable 2-way, I think some of the issues have been fleshed out, but there are more to investigate, especially for guys who are flamed-out 2-ways like Noda but are still stars on one side of the ball.