Middle Number?

kq76 · 04-20-2023, 04:05 PM

What's this number represent? I've never understood it.

Fabtron7 · 04-20-2023, 04:18 PM

It's the points difference between the highest buy order and the lowest sell order.

kq76 · 04-20-2023, 04:24 PM

Doh!

And here I kept thinking it must be some actual price. It never occurred to me it was the difference. Thanks.

Charley575 · 04-20-2023, 10:04 PM

I never understood why someone would sell a card for 1PP over raw value knowing that they lose 10% in commission, but I see it all the time.

dishnet34 · 04-20-2023, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley575

I never understood why someone would sell a card for 1PP over raw value knowing that they lose 10% in commission, but I see it all the time.

You cannot get less than the quicksell value when you sell a card. So if someone sells a bronze for 26 PP, for example, they're not getting 24. They're getting 25.

bailey · 04-20-2023, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dishnet34

You cannot get less than the quicksell value when you sell a card. So if someone sells a bronze for 26 PP, for example, they're not getting 24. They're getting 25.

And if someone sells a diamond for 4001 they get 4000. And if someone sells a diamond for 4444 they still get 4000. A 100% tax.

Hwilensky · 04-21-2023, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey

And if someone sells a diamond for 4001 they get 4000. And if someone sells a diamond for 4444 they still get 4000. A 100% tax.

I don't understand why people undercut each other to the point that it only sells for the quick sell amount.I listed a diamond for the L10 of 5k, and someone listed one for 4K 10 minutes later. Why not go 4999 first. Just dont get it!

Charley575 · 04-21-2023, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dishnet34

You cannot get less than the quicksell value when you sell a card. So if someone sells a bronze for 26 PP, for example, they're not getting 24. They're getting 25.

I did not know that. Thanks for the response. Still, why wait for the 25 when the quick sell button is right there, or is there something else I'm missing?

vapodge · 04-22-2023, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley575

I did not know that. Thanks for the response. Still, why wait for the 25 when the quick sell button is right there, or is there something else I'm missing?

Some nice folks do that to provide cards for sale that owners may want that they haven't been able to pull yet. (not implying you're not nice)

bailey · 04-22-2023, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vapodge

Some nice folks do that to provide cards for sale that owners may want that they haven't been able to pull yet. (not implying you're not nice)

I just wish the buyers were equally nice and posted buy orders for something more than 6 and 26. Maybe, it happens more often than it seems because the buy orders get filled quickly and I never see them?

kq76 · 04-22-2023, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bailey

I just wish the buyers were equally nice and posted buy orders for something more than 6 and 26. Maybe, it happens more often than it seems because the buy orders get filled quickly and I never see them?

That's what I figure. When I want a card, I'll post a price that I think someone will actually bite on and they often do. Of course those people who post QS+1 prices must get enough to make it worth it for them, but I have to imagine people who post higher do better over the long term.

Here's a question I've long wondered: when cards are quick-sold, do they disappear entirely forever or are they put up on the market with a premium?

rburgh · 04-22-2023, 11:57 AM

I think when you QS a card it goes away entirely.

As far as the 6 and 26 bids, I think if they instead had QS sell to the highest active bid it would generate a lot more bids. But my experience is much like yours, almost all reasonable bids get filled eventually.

Ozzie7227 · 04-22-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

Here's a question I've long wondered: when cards are quick-sold, do they disappear entirely forever or are they put up on the market with a premium?

rburgh is correct. When a card is quick-sold, it's gone from the game forever.

Hwilensky · 04-22-2023, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie7227

rburgh is correct. When a card is quick-sold, it's gone from the game forever.

For every Payton Henry that is Quick Sold, 20 more are put into packs.

LeeD · 04-22-2023, 08:27 PM

Well...

This is a competitive game. Why be "nice" to other players by offering them a card when you can quick-sell it for the same amount? Granted, there are thousands of players, but the idea is to improve your team without helping to improve the other guy's team in the process.

rburgh · 04-22-2023, 09:53 PM

Are speculating that either (1) for live cards, that their card tier will go up at some point during the season, or (2) for historical cards, that they will be used for a mission at some point and they will be able to sell them for a profit.

Fabtron7 · 04-22-2023, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

Well...

This is a competitive game. Why be "nice" to other players by offering them a card when you can quick-sell it for the same amount? Granted, there are thousands of players, but the idea is to improve your team without helping to improve the other guy's team in the process.

Generally speaking I'd say the people selling cards for 4001pp don't see those buyers as any sort of threat.

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kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,950	Doh! And here I kept thinking it must be some actual price. It never occurred to me it was the difference. Thanks. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

04-20-2023, 10:04 PM	#4
Charley575 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 544	I never understood why someone would sell a card for 1PP over raw value knowing that they lose 10% in commission, but I see it all the time. __________________

04-22-2023, 11:57 AM	#12
rburgh All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,018	Interesting question I think when you QS a card it goes away entirely. As far as the 6 and 26 bids, I think if they instead had QS sell to the highest active bid it would generate a lot more bids. But my experience is much like yours, almost all reasonable bids get filled eventually.

04-22-2023, 08:27 PM	#15
LeeD All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 841	Well... This is a competitive game. Why be "nice" to other players by offering them a card when you can quick-sell it for the same amount? Granted, there are thousands of players, but the idea is to improve your team without helping to improve the other guy's team in the process.

04-22-2023, 09:53 PM	#16
rburgh All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,018	Those guys bidding 1 over the reserve price Are speculating that either (1) for live cards, that their card tier will go up at some point during the season, or (2) for historical cards, that they will be used for a mission at some point and they will be able to sell them for a profit.