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Old 03-18-2023, 01:42 PM   #1
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St. Louis Cardinals Score screen team color

I would like to have the Cardinals background on the team name to be red. I have tried to fix it in the colors settings but it doesn't change it.
Where can I change this background color to red?
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Old 03-18-2023, 11:16 PM   #2
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its in the settings, under modify team colors, logos and textures
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Old 03-21-2023, 09:28 AM   #3
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You can change it here
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Old 03-22-2023, 01:59 PM   #4
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This is what I have and it doesn't display this color.
It must be somewhere else or it is not accepting the color.
What does yours show?
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Old 03-23-2023, 01:30 AM   #5
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set you txt color to the red code. It does not make any sense but that is what I have had to do.
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Old 03-23-2023, 01:34 AM   #6
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If you want the exact colours, check out the TruColor website.

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Old 03-24-2023, 05:17 PM   #7
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If you want the exact right colour, check out the TruColor website.
TruColor is a great website, and I use it for all my logos mainly because it is easy and accesible, but the color hexes on this website are an approximation. They are not the exact shade that teams' always use. For instance, if you take a Pantone red color, most all of the teams' with a red main color are Ba0c2f (I think Boston is the only exception with c8102e...It's sad I have these memorized) But if you google the teams' exact hex codes, they are slightly different. As an example the Phillies have a brighter shade of red than BA0C2F. They actually use C81828.
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Old 03-24-2023, 05:23 PM   #8
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What are your sources? Maybe send him an email. I'm sure not all of his are correct, but my impression has always been that he strives to be as accurate as possible.
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Old 03-24-2023, 05:53 PM   #9
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Honestly I've used a combination of teamcolorcodes and trucolor over the years. There are differences between the sites and I end up picking the codes that match the logo the best or my eyeballs
I have also been known to just grab the color code from the dropper in gimp too
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Old 03-24-2023, 06:51 PM   #10
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What are your sources? Maybe send him an email. I'm sure not all of his are correct, but my impression has always been that he strives to be as accurate as possible.
If you ask me ColorWerx is much easier to use, as it has all of the MiLB and Indy leagues also. But you honestly don't think the Reds, Phillies, Cardinals, Nationals, Rangers, Angels all have the same BA0C2F shade of red do you? They don't on the team color codes site, but do on ColorWerx. Also, OOTP is already using the Color Codes numbers.
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Old 03-24-2023, 07:05 PM   #11
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I'm confused by your last post. Colorwerx is his old site and last I checked the new owners of it don't do what he does.

And yes, I do think they could all be using the same colour. They're likely getting the fabric from the same company, or limited companies, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not given the full gamut of colours as available options.

I also wouldn't necessarily trust the official team websites over an independent person either. Whoever is putting the team websites together probably isn't nearly as picky as a guy who devotes so much time and effort over so many years to his own website.

If you trust other sources more, okay, that's fine. I just offered it up as a source I trust.
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Old 03-24-2023, 08:18 PM   #12
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I'm confused by your last post. Colorwerx is his old site and last I checked the new owners of it don't do what he does.

And yes, I do think they could all be using the same colour. They're likely getting the fabric from the same company, or limited companies, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not given the full gamut of colours as available options.

I also wouldn't necessarily trust the official team websites over an independent person either. Whoever is putting the team websites together probably isn't nearly as picky as a guy who devotes so much time and effort over so many years to his own website.

If you trust other sources more, okay, that's fine. I just offered it up as a source I trust.

I do trust it...it's pretty damn close on the ones that don't match, and many do match. Reds and Navy colors seem to be the ones that are often different. Although Colorwerx DOES have a couple variations of Nave such as OC2340 or 041E42.

I definitely trust colorwerx and use it exclusively for my logo sets .
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Old 03-24-2023, 08:31 PM   #13
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The True Color site is not giving the exact code. He is only giving you the closest Pantone paint color to the actual color. On the Team Colors site, if you click " Buy matching Paint ", you will end up getting the same shade as the True Color sight. That's why all those teams have the same shade for red, Pantone only makes one close approximation. The Team Colors site is more accurate, because Pantone Paint isn't the mitigating factor.
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Old 03-24-2023, 09:47 PM   #14
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For years I thought his colors always looked a little off.
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I'm not interpreting it the same as you, but because I am a bit of a colour enthusiast, I'll look into it further and email him myself.
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Old 03-24-2023, 11:46 PM   #16
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OK...I'm here now.

The best way to describe what I do is that I take the official Pantone colors and display the current RGB, Hex and CMYK values for that particular color value. These values are provided by Pantone, and they represent the closest simulation for reproducing their colors on screen or in print.

It gets complicated, but the reason why you will see discrepancies is due to differences in the color profiles that designers use, the color space they are working in, or the designers will adjust the RGB or CMYK values for some reason. In my mind, these colors are no longer accurate to Pantone specifications.

Yes the Phillies, Reds, Cardinals, Nationals, etc. all use PANTONE 200 C for their Red. There are precise specs for reproducing that color:



This is a spot color, meaning it is defined by the formula ink mix; which is in this case, 73.90% Rubine Red, 24.60% Yellow, and 1.5% Black. RGB/Hex and CMYK are just meant to be approximations of that color. When vendors and manufacturers match to their threads and textiles, they match to the Pantone color - NOT (in most cases anyway) the RGB/Hex or CMYK values. The RGB.Hex and CMYK values can vary from application to application because they are simulations of that color.

Yes, these teams often will provide different definitions of how they want to display PANTONE 200 C, but once you start tweaking the RGB, it no longer matches the source value. Pantone values are the "source of truth" when it comes to color matching.

With my databases, I store EVERYTHING. I do store all of these "custom" RGB/Hex and CMYK values, along with the Pantone values. If provided, I store all textile, thread, twill, etc. information as well.

These other sites are mostly estimating colors, or just displaying these custom values. The point of my site is to provide an apples-to-apples comparison of colors. Those 200 C teams I listed above may use different RGB/Hex values to define their colors, but also keep in mind that they are all matching their textiles, thread colors, etc. to 200 C. They all use the same matches.

I've made it clear (or at least, I thought I was making it clear) that when I estimate a color, I put asterisks (*) in front of the color. EVERYTHING else is confirmed/official. I have about a half a terabyte of vector graphics and connections all over the sports graphics world that I network with. I have spent over 30 years of my life compiling this info, and I take great pride in its accuracy.
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Interesting.....Thank You I think I understand now. The Pantone code would be 100% accurate for the jerseys, not necessarily for the logos, which may have been "tweaked". That's why the colors don't match sometimes.

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Old 03-25-2023, 12:59 PM   #18
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According to Melissa Maani, Graphic Design Manager with the Phillies, the official RGB code is R=211, G=18, B=69.

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Old 03-25-2023, 01:26 PM   #20
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set you txt color to the red code. It does not make any sense but that is what I have had to do.
That worked thanks.
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