Thanks for the memories, but I'm done

[DJ_Jak_32]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Yeah OOTP is really for the person who wants a lego set and sit back to watch the universe unfold. Or for users who act as team Managers.

It is just an awful game to be GM only cause there isnt a whole lot of actual gameplay stuff to do.

Yeah I also agree there is way too customization. Yes a lot of the "old guard" like it. But I would wager the majority play present MLB quickstart. So why carry so many options?

Have quickstart mlb for real and fictional. Then just have historical real and fictional. Why is there a need to design all of these crazy league formats? Promotionj/Regelation? Why introduce more stuff into the puzzle if OOTPD is "SUCH A SMALL DEV SHOP" which is what we hear time and time again.

Have a handful of standard setup options and focus on difficulty sliders like say games like BattleTech. Especially how they do their ironman mode and compare user stats destroys so called "challenge mode". Makes it look like a kids toy.

Lot of strategy, management, sim games have difficulty sliders. You want to give % bonus to AI while restricting user %. Finances, contracts, ratings etc. That is what makes games difficult now turning off game play features.

Which is what i hear on the board all the time. Turn of rule 5, turn off scouting, use stats only, use house rules etc.

How about no. How about actually make difficulty sliders like every video game from the NES era even had.

Again great game as a lego sandbox or daily manager. But I would give it a D- as a GM game. There aint nothing to do.

Still grinding that axe!

We're all waiting on your live stream

[Pelican]

It’s like complaining that Word or Excel or PowerPoint have too many options that I never use. So what? It’s a simple matter to find your own defaults and to use only what you need. There will always be pros who want and need more customization, and developers only too happy to provide it. They may be using 70% of the potential, while I muddle along at 10%. I still think it’s cool that I might someday explore the other 90%. Or not. Yes, granted I have paid for something I don’t use; but the depth and potential for expansion make it a better overall experience, for everybody.

[tcblcommish]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Yeah OOTP is really for the person who wants a lego set and sit back to watch the universe unfold. Or for users who act as team Managers.



It is just an awful game to be GM only cause there isnt a whole lot of actual gameplay stuff to do.



Yeah I also agree there is way too customization. Yes a lot of the "old guard" like it. But I would wager the majority play present MLB quickstart. So why carry so many options?



Have quickstart mlb for real and fictional. Then just have historical real and fictional. Why is there a need to design all of these crazy league formats? Promotionj/Regelation? Why introduce more stuff into the puzzle if OOTPD is "SUCH A SMALL DEV SHOP" which is what we hear time and time again.



Have a handful of standard setup options and focus on difficulty sliders like say games like BattleTech. Especially how they do their ironman mode and compare user stats destroys so called "challenge mode". Makes it look like a kids toy.



Lot of strategy, management, sim games have difficulty sliders. You want to give % bonus to AI while restricting user %. Finances, contracts, ratings etc. That is what makes games difficult now turning off game play features.



Which is what i hear on the board all the time. Turn of rule 5, turn off scouting, use stats only, use house rules etc.



How about no. How about actually make difficulty sliders like every video game from the NES era even had.



Again great game as a lego sandbox or daily manager. But I would give it a D- as a GM game. There aint nothing to do.

Don't you ever get sick of posting the same stuff over and over in so many different threads while at one point saying how you enjoy the game to I wouldn't play this game if I was paid?

You are unhappy with the game, you have voiced your opinion numerous times, even had discussions with Markus and none of that is enough. All you are doing now is making yourself look like an idiot with stupid shots like it's a lego game or whatever garbage you try to use to belittle what the company has done. If you don't like the game, fine voice your opinion and move on but to keep coming back day in and day out saying the same thing with different insults and condescension is just a pathetic attempt to do anything.



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[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by Pelican

It’s like complaining that Word or Excel or PowerPoint have too many options that I never use. So what? It’s a simple matter to find your own defaults and to use only what you need. There will always be pros who want and need more customization, and developers only too happy to provide it. They may be using 70% of the potential, while I muddle along at 10%. I still think it’s cool that I might someday explore the other 90%. Or not. Yes, granted I have paid for something I don’t use; but the depth and potential for expansion make it a better overall experience, for everybody.

I disagree all those options always cause unforseen bugs. It happens every year and every patch. So are all of those options worth the time and resources when so few players actually use it?

The devs are the ones on the boards all the time saying how they are micro in size and have limited time. Then why is the game full sandbox with basically unlimited customization?

Does all those options and customization actually achieve any goals? Except for well that is the way ootp was when it started?

[BarneyRubble]

Just ignore him.

He thinks ERA is a 100% useless stat. And to think baseball survived 100+ years without 'advanced' stats. Jim Palmer says 'hey'. I think he's a troll with an agenda.

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by tcblcommish

Don't you ever get sick of posting the same stuff over and over in so many different threads while at one point saying how you enjoy the game to I wouldn't play this game if I was paid?

You are unhappy with the game, you have voiced your opinion numerous times, even had discussions with Markus and none of that is enough. All you are doing now is making yourself look like an idiot with stupid shots like it's a lego game or whatever garbage you try to use to belittle what the company has done. If you don't like the game, fine voice your opinion and move on but to keep coming back day in and day out saying the same thing with different insults and condescension is just a pathetic attempt to do anything.



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Ok white knight. Insulting much? I love how this community tries to act like nice elderly grandpops until someone brings criticism to ootp. Then all the pretentious and subtle digs come out.

Since when is calling anything lego belittling? It was a compliment. OOTP is a lego sandbox for many users who want to create some weird form of imaginary baseball universe and then watch it unfold.

The game is good for the team manager in the day to day operations since it is all baseball related. But facts are ootp offers very little in the GM experience.

And since GM only is an OPTION I and whoever else can criticize OOTPb and OOTPd for doing a piss poor job at the GM experience. Might as well not have GM enabled if they dont want to hear criticism.

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by BarneyRubble

Just ignore him.

He thinks ERA is a 100% useless stat. And to think baseball survived 100+ years without 'advanced' stats. Jim Palmer says 'hey'. I think he's a troll with an agenda.

No troll ask any stat guy and they will say ERA is useless in modern baseball. If you are using ERA then you are doing it WRONG.

pitchers in game you only need fip- and siera
batters you need woba and wrc+

that is it. fielding and running now that is different story

[DJ_Jak_32]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

No troll ask any stat guy and they will say ERA is useless in modern baseball. If you are using ERA then you are doing it WRONG.

pitchers in game you only need fip- and siera
batters you need woba and wrc+

that is it. fielding and running now that is different story

When you going to live stream and show us how great you are? You have talked a big game but have done nothing to back it up other than post the same drivel over and over, just with more words.

Come on, prove it!! Show us what a great "Gamer" you are!

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I disagree all those options always cause unforseen bugs. It happens every year and every patch. So are all of those options worth the time and resources when so few players actually use it?

The devs are the ones on the boards all the time saying how they are micro in size and have limited time. Then why is the game full sandbox with basically unlimited customization?

Does all those options and customization actually achieve any goals? Except for well that is the way ootp was when it started?

All of these questions are irrelevant

This is the design of the game and it isn't changing.

Your only recourse is to not buy the game. Not sure what else to say.

[Tiger Fan]

What I don’t understand is why those that are complaining there are too many options don’t just stick to the default settings?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Ok white knight. Insulting much? I love how this community tries to act like nice elderly grandpops until someone brings criticism to ootp. Then all the pretentious and subtle digs come out.

Since when is calling anything lego belittling? It was a compliment. OOTP is a lego sandbox for many users who want to create some weird form of imaginary baseball universe and then watch it unfold.

The game is good for the team manager in the day to day operations since it is all baseball related. But facts are ootp offers very little in the GM experience.

And since GM only is an OPTION I and whoever else can criticize OOTPb and OOTPd for doing a piss poor job at the GM experience. Might as well not have GM enabled if they dont want to hear criticism.

As I've said before.. for me the amount of GM is fine. If they go more in depth, which is fine by me, I will delegate that to my AI staff. Oh my, more options Probably best to not add anymore GM, last thing we need are more options.

Turning off what they have would not only be stupid, it would also be something that isn't going to happen.

I can only imagine Mom and Dad always let you have your way? You certainly don't handle rejection nor, tolerate other's opinions very well.

You do like to label\insult folks based on them not agreeing with you. Why?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Tiger Fan

What I don’t understand is why those that are complaining there are too many options don’t just stick to the default settings?

X 1,000

I love the posts that say "they should come up with a setup out of the box that does x,y, and z. They already have... it's called DEFAULT You may not agree with what they have done but they have invested development time in setting up what you get. No matter what the default is someone is not going to be happy. That is why there are options.

Options don't have to be removed. You start with default, look at your league and how things are working. IE stats, rosters, trades, player skills, etc. etc. and decide what, if anything, you might want to tweak.

[Ty Cobb]

#learntocode

[tcblcommish]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Ok white knight. Insulting much? I love how this community tries to act like nice elderly grandpops until someone brings criticism to ootp. Then all the pretentious and subtle digs come out.



Since when is calling anything lego belittling? It was a compliment. OOTP is a lego sandbox for many users who want to create some weird form of imaginary baseball universe and then watch it unfold.



The game is good for the team manager in the day to day operations since it is all baseball related. But facts are ootp offers very little in the GM experience.



And since GM only is an OPTION I and whoever else can criticize OOTPb and OOTPd for doing a piss poor job at the GM experience. Might as well not have GM enabled if they dont want to hear criticism.

I'm a white knight? I doubt that people can think that much less of you from your over the top posts crying about the same thing but now you show you don't really even know what that term means.

I didnt defend the game I asked about you yet someone disagrees with you and your automatic response is "white knight". Do you actually know what a white knight is?

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[md40022]

Having not really been active on this forum outside of a random question or a random bug complaint over the years, and having not really been active on ANY message forums at all since like 2005-2010, I must say.....

It made me forget just how awesome message forum beefs are.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by md40022

Having not really been active on this forum outside of a random question or a random bug complaint over the years, and having not really been active on ANY message forums at all since like 2005-2010, I must say.....

It made me forget just how awesome message forum beefs are.

Oh I agree. Even better when one of the participants is clearly a social misfit.

[Pelican]

As my Dad would say, long before social media, “all heat and no light”.

[beepollen]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Oh I agree. Even better when one of the participants is clearly a social misfit.

Also, part of the charm is it the universality. More likely than not, on other boards right there are mirror-image beefs of the one here. On boards discussing string theory, the production of pastas, knitting... Beef as far as the eye can see.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by beepollen

Also, part of the charm is it the universality. More likely than not, on other boards right there are mirror-image beefs of the one here. On boards discussing string theory, the production of pastas, knitting... Beef as far as the eye can see.

I spent three days last week in a battle on a condiment forum debating Ketchup vs Catsup and whether either can really be fancy. It was fun till a woman showed up on my doorstep with a suitcase and some aioli.

[chargerrich]

I really hate admitting this after being an annual buyer since 2004 but 23 feels like we are continuing in a bad direction. Hoping for a course correction but with all the money chasing in gaming right now (diablo immortal, madden, fifa, P2W) I am not encouraged.

Always thought this game was loved and supported enough that it would be insulated from that shallow cash grab... not sure anymore.