Using older ballparks in newer eras

[merryaugust]

Hello, new here after decades of APBA and a brief dalliance with DM. So far so good, but it's like drinking from a fire hose to get up to speed; this forum has been a big help.



I have installed the incredible Historical Ballparks pack (thank you!), then setup a historical league starting in 1969. But when looking to change a stadium, the only options are those that were actually used in 1969. I'd like to include parks from earlier, like Shibe or Griffith.


One way seems to be to add lines to the era_ballparks.txt file, by copying a representative season for the older park, and adding one line for each additional year I'd like to use it. For example, copy the line:

1959,AL,WS1,MIN,Washington Senators,Griffith Stadium 1957-1961,615372,1.01009837

And add the line:

1969,AL,WS1,MIN,Washington Senators,Griffith Stadium 1957-1961,615372,1.01009837

Is that how it works? Or, is there a way to cause the game setup to recognize older parks some other way? Thanks!


--- Merry

[micropterus58]

I don't know what the era_ballparks.txt file does but you can download and install any historical, fictional, or modern ballpark you want. Then assign the ballpark on the team home screen/settings screen. Refer to silvam14's tutorial to install 3D ballparks. https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=290245

[Syd Thrift]

Technically Shibe Park is there in 1969. It’s called Connie Mack Stadium and it’s on its last legs but one of the interesting (to me anyway) aspects of that season is that there are three parks that are just about to be replaced with cookie cutters but haven’t yet: Connie Mack / Shibe, Crosley Field in Cincinnati, and Forbes Field in Pittsburgh. I believe ‘69 is the final season for the latter two (although I want to say that technically I think it’s Forbes was used into the 1970 season when Three Rivers wasn’t quite ready to go yet).

You also have old Comiskey with the ugly astroturf infield, Yankee Stadium with the monuments in play, the Big A before they added the stands in the outfield that cut down on the winds blowing in, and of course Sick’s Stadium in Seattle, a place below AAA standards that reportedly kept two major league teams - the Indians and the Athletics - from moving to that city in the 1960s.

[progen]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Technically Shibe Park is there in 1969. It’s called Connie Mack Stadium and it’s on its last legs but one of the interesting (to me anyway) aspects of that season is that there are three parks that are just about to be replaced with cookie cutters but haven’t yet: Connie Mack / Shibe, Crosley Field in Cincinnati, and Forbes Field in Pittsburgh. I believe ‘69 is the final season for the latter two (although I want to say that technically I think it’s Forbes was used into the 1970 season when Three Rivers wasn’t quite ready to go yet).

You also have old Comiskey with the ugly astroturf infield, Yankee Stadium with the monuments in play, the Big A before they added the stands in the outfield that cut down on the winds blowing in, and of course Sick’s Stadium in Seattle, a place below AAA standards that reportedly kept two major league teams - the Indians and the Athletics - from moving to that city in the 1960s.

Connie Mack Stadium lasted through 1970, then it was Veterans Stadium. The best game I ever saw was at Connie Mack with my father. Tony Taylor hit a grand slam in the bottom of the 9th to win the game 7-6. August 2nd, 1970. Will never forget it. Here's the box score of the game from Retrosheet.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...020PHI1970.htm

[Brad K]

Grant Jackson PR for Johnny Edwards and then the HR. Cool.

[Pirates]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Technically Shibe Park is there in 1969. It’s called Connie Mack Stadium and it’s on its last legs but one of the interesting (to me anyway) aspects of that season is that there are three parks that are just about to be replaced with cookie cutters but haven’t yet: Connie Mack / Shibe, Crosley Field in Cincinnati, and Forbes Field in Pittsburgh. I believe ‘69 is the final season for the latter two (although I want to say that technically I think it’s Forbes was used into the 1970 season when Three Rivers wasn’t quite ready to go yet).

You also have old Comiskey with the ugly astroturf infield, Yankee Stadium with the monuments in play, the Big A before they added the stands in the outfield that cut down on the winds blowing in, and of course Sick’s Stadium in Seattle, a place below AAA standards that reportedly kept two major league teams - the Indians and the Athletics - from moving to that city in the 1960s.

You are correct about the Pirates. In June of 1970 I was fortunate to go to a Pirate Game in Forbes Field and then, I believe it was August I went to a Pirate Game in Three rivers Stadium.

[Pelican]

Originally Posted by progen

Connie Mack Stadium lasted through 1970, then it was Veterans Stadium. The best game I ever saw was at Connie Mack with my father. Tony Taylor hit a grand slam in the bottom of the 9th to win the game 7-6. August 2nd, 1970. Will never forget it. Here's the box score of the game from Retrosheet.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...020PHI1970.htm

Connie Mack Stadium was a great place to watch a game, if you had good seats (I.e. in front of the columns holding up the roof that obstructed your view). But a rough place to get to. We would sometimes take the train up from Wilmington to North Philly Station, directly opposite where t he Baker Bowl had been, and walk the seven blocks to Connie Mack. Or, drive up and pay local kids to “watch” the car. Or, arrive way early and park in the lot next to the stadium, where the cars were wedged in nose-to-tail, and, needless to say, no one left early. After one game, my Dad’s Buick had a flat tire, so everybody had to weave around us to get out, and my Dad had to wait for that mess before changing the tire. It was pretty dark, and then we saw figures emerging from the clubhouse and walking toward a corner of the lot where cars were not parked in - premium parking! My Dad correctly guessed that these guys were players, and gave me our scorecard and told me to get an autograph. I approached two guys, asked, and one guy kindly signed. I was so excited, I grabbed the scorecard and ran back to my Dad. Under the dome light of the car, we could see Ray Culp’s name. “So, why didn’t you ask the other guy for his”, my Dad wondered. I was dumbfounded. “Who was it, Dad?” “Jim Bunning”. So, yeah, passed on the future HOF pitcher, who had thrown a perfect game the year before. My Dad loved to tell that story. Probably Culp kidded Bunning about it, too.

[pstrickert]

Originally Posted by merryaugust

Hello, new here after decades of APBA and a brief dalliance with DM. So far so good, but it's like drinking from a fire hose to get up to speed; this forum has been a big help.



I have installed the incredible Historical Ballparks pack (thank you!), then setup a historical league starting in 1969. But when looking to change a stadium, the only options are those that were actually used in 1969. I'd like to include parks from earlier, like Shibe or Griffith.


One way seems to be to add lines to the era_ballparks.txt file, by copying a representative season for the older park, and adding one line for each additional year I'd like to use it. For example, copy the line:

1959,AL,WS1,MIN,Washington Senators,Griffith Stadium 1957-1961,615372,1.01009837

And add the line:

1969,AL,WS1,MIN,Washington Senators,Griffith Stadium 1957-1961,615372,1.01009837

Is that how it works? Or, is there a way to cause the game setup to recognize older parks some other way? Thanks!


--- Merry

You can manually import any park from the ballparks/models folder. Silvam14 has a video (now three years old, but still applicable) which explains the process.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...44&postcount=1

If you want to change just the 3D ballpark, you can import the .pod file (or .obj file) rather than the .prk file.

NOTE: Since you already have the ballparks installed, you can ignore the sections in the video where silvam14 describes the process of downloading individual ballpark files.

[Scottiedog43]

Riverfront stadium (Reds) opened in 1970.
It was used for the All Star Game