Announcement of a New OOTP Utility - Page 2

redmachine · 03-20-2002, 08:36 PM

Well I play both and for me it would be an unbelievable utility. Im all for it, why is everyone trying to rain on his parade.

PLG · 03-21-2002, 03:58 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Moocow:
A little off topic, but would you be able to provide me information about the file foramts for OOTP? I've asked around to 3 different people and haven't gotten a reply as of yet. I'm wondering how the people who have written utilities for OOTP were able to do so given how hard it is to obtain the file formats for the game.

All I want to do is create a simple utility that displays league stats in a more High Heat-like way...that's one of the few things I liked better about HH than OOTP.<hr></blockquote>

Ask Markus.

sporr · 03-21-2002, 06:30 AM

So, in effect, the LINK only uses OOTP as a stat keeping program for HH? The OOTP simulation engine is never used? I've played HH and the engine simply doesn't compare, so why would I ever want to use this utility? I hope Markus isn't going to lend the OOTP name to this utility since the OOTP engine is only used for recordkeeping.

mbodenheimer · 03-21-2002, 07:23 AM

sporr,
No not at all the only thing let me state the ONLY thing that HH will be used for is the 1 game you actually play. All other games will be simmed via ootp just like normal. Also if you play a 162 game schedule and only want to play by hand 1 game of every series the all star games and the playoffs in HH you can the rest you can either play normal in OOTP or sim.

This just adds an extra option of play to OOTP, it doesnt take any of OOTP sim engine away except for that one game you play. The good thing about that there is a command in the HH tune file that you can set it so that they play either more like there stats or more how you control them to.

So you can tweak it any way you want,
The Link Dev Team

Joe Stallings · 03-21-2002, 08:11 AM

I can confirm that Matt and Pierre have the support of the Out of the Park Development team. We have agreed to provide the LINK team with some general direction regarding the layout of the EXP (export) files used in league management.

I should also note that OOTP will not derive any direct income from any future sale(s) of this utility, nor have we charged Matt or Pierre for sharing information regarding file structures, etc. We have assisted the LINK team soley as a contribution to the baseball gaming community.

Will this utility materialize? Well, I for one hope so - you've got to admit, this would be a fun "toy" to have regardless of what your style of play is, and regardless of whether OOTP or HH is your game of choice.

I am also really excited at the prospect of seeing two of the Internet's most vibrant game communities collaborating on such an interesting project.

Finally, I respectfully ask that folks (both here and from our neighbors on the High Heat boards) be supportive of Matt and Pierre, and try to ease up on the cynicism. There is obviously a vision and some logic to this thing (I can confirm that too, btw), so let's give them our support and thank them for at least trying to build something that we can all enjoy and benefit from.

Joe

DreamTeams · 03-21-2002, 08:11 AM

This reminds me of the utility created for the Wayne Gretzski hockey game years ago. It was called Hockey League Simulater. Remember that guys? You used the simulator to run your league and you could export to the Hockey Game to play out any game you wanted. I had a ball with it.

Not sure if I'd use the Link, but if you can pull it off...

Go for it!

Cooleyvol · 03-21-2002, 08:46 AM

Joe,

I personally wasnt trying to rain on their parade, but, for me, whats the point?

If I were to use this with my 1933 league to play a game, none of the players are even going to resemble Hornsby, Ruth, Gehrig, or any other player for that matter. Whats the fun of just having thier names on the screen when you play HH? I can do that by creating those players in HH anyway.

More power to them, if they can do it, but I just don't see the use in it for me personally.

Gorgias · 03-21-2002, 08:54 AM

Well, I for one think this is an awesome idea. I would definitely be interested in trying out such a utility, since I still enjoy playing games in HH. Sometimes I will be simming or playing games in ootp, and I will feel the need for some action, so I will switch over and play a game in HH.

Good luck to you guys, I'll be watching for updates!

Guy

Viper · 05-02-2002, 12:24 PM

bumping this hope in hope of some news... pierre or matt, hows it going?

Baseballr77 · 05-03-2002, 12:54 AM

OK this might be a really dumb question, but what exactly is HH? All I have ever played is ootp and just recently started hearing about this HH game??

IatricSB · 05-03-2002, 01:29 AM

<a href="http://www.3do.com/highheat/2003/" target="_blank">High Heat Baseball</a>

IatricSB · 05-03-2002, 01:32 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IatricSB:
<a href="http://www.3do.com/highheat/2003/" target="_blank">High Heat Baseball</a><hr /></blockquote>Personally, I've never played it. Not what I'm looking for in a game. OOTP fit the bill perfectly

MiddleGA · 05-03-2002, 07:34 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Joe Stallings:
... try to ease up on the cynicism. <hr /></blockquote>I have zero interest in HH, so I don't really have a dog in this fight but ...

Where should the line between cynicism & realism be drawn?

If there is a history about this project as several in the thread indicate, then comments about it would seem to be very appropriate. And you know as well as I do that once a producer of any product makes an annoucement, the topic is pretty much fair game for public opinion.

There may be a line, but I sure didn't see anything in this thread that crossed it.

Jon

Flasch186 · 05-03-2002, 11:47 AM

High Heat has never had a career mode. Will this cause any problems?

sporr · 05-03-2002, 11:52 AM

High Heat had a career mode....just not a very good one.

PLG · 05-05-2002, 04:56 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Viper:
bumping this hope in hope of some news... pierre or matt, hows it going?<hr /></blockquote>Working on the Editor is my priority for the moment.

seadog852 · 05-06-2002, 08:34 AM

2 quick questions for Pierre P.

1. When you get this editor done...where can we dl it?
2. Last I heard you were 35% done, is that number growing or stable?

Willy · 05-06-2002, 08:58 AM

Pierre said in another thread that he is 3.83% away from an alpha release.

03-21-2002, 03:58 AM	#22
PLG All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 640	[quote]Originally posted by Moocow: <strong>A little off topic, but would you be able to provide me information about the file foramts for OOTP? I've asked around to 3 different people and haven't gotten a reply as of yet. I'm wondering how the people who have written utilities for OOTP were able to do so given how hard it is to obtain the file formats for the game. All I want to do is create a simple utility that displays league stats in a more High Heat-like way...that's one of the few things I liked better about HH than OOTP.</strong><hr></blockquote> Ask Markus. __________________ Pierre pierrepage30@hotmail.com If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?

03-21-2002, 07:23 AM	#24
mbodenheimer Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 38	sporr, No not at all the only thing let me state the ONLY thing that HH will be used for is the 1 game you actually play. All other games will be simmed via ootp just like normal. Also if you play a 162 game schedule and only want to play by hand 1 game of every series the all star games and the playoffs in HH you can the rest you can either play normal in OOTP or sim. This just adds an extra option of play to OOTP, it doesnt take any of OOTP sim engine away except for that one game you play. The good thing about that there is a command in the HH tune file that you can set it so that they play either more like there stats or more how you control them to. So you can tweak it any way you want, The Link Dev Team __________________ "The day I stop improving is the day I walk away from the game" - Michael Jordan

03-21-2002, 08:11 AM	#26
DreamTeams Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,522	This reminds me of the utility created for the Wayne Gretzski hockey game years ago. It was called Hockey League Simulater. Remember that guys? You used the simulator to run your league and you could export to the Hockey Game to play out any game you wanted. I had a ball with it. Not sure if I'd use the Link, but if you can pull it off... Go for it! __________________

05-02-2002, 12:24 PM	#29
Viper Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 35	bumping this hope in hope of some news... pierre or matt, hows it going? __________________ When their face hits the cement, they nod in agreement. - Mos Def

05-03-2002, 12:54 AM	#30
Baseballr77 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 94	OK this might be a really dumb question, but what exactly is HH? All I have ever played is ootp and just recently started hearing about this HH game?? __________________ MLB Pro - Boston RedSox 2013 WS Champs Sooner born, Sooner bred, When I die, I'll be Sooner dead.

03-20-2002, 08:36 PM	#21
redmachine Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Billings, MT Posts: 145	Well I play both and for me it would be an unbelievable utility. Im all for it, why is everyone trying to rain on his parade.

03-21-2002, 06:30 AM	#23
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	So, in effect, the LINK only uses OOTP as a stat keeping program for HH? The OOTP simulation engine is never used? I've played HH and the engine simply doesn't compare, so why would I ever want to use this utility? I hope Markus isn't going to lend the OOTP name to this utility since the OOTP engine is only used for recordkeeping.

03-21-2002, 08:11 AM	#25
Joe Stallings Administrator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 239	I can confirm that Matt and Pierre have the support of the Out of the Park Development team. We have agreed to provide the LINK team with some general direction regarding the layout of the EXP (export) files used in league management. I should also note that OOTP will not derive any direct income from any future sale(s) of this utility, nor have we charged Matt or Pierre for sharing information regarding file structures, etc. We have assisted the LINK team soley as a contribution to the baseball gaming community. Will this utility materialize? Well, I for one hope so - you've got to admit, this would be a fun "toy" to have regardless of what your style of play is, and regardless of whether OOTP or HH is your game of choice. I am also really excited at the prospect of seeing two of the Internet's most vibrant game communities collaborating on such an interesting project. Finally, I respectfully ask that folks (both here and from our neighbors on the High Heat boards) be supportive of Matt and Pierre, and try to ease up on the cynicism. There is obviously a vision and some logic to this thing (I can confirm that too, btw), so let's give them our support and thank them for at least trying to build something that we can all enjoy and benefit from. Joe

03-21-2002, 08:46 AM	#27
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Joe, I personally wasnt trying to rain on their parade, but, for me, whats the point? If I were to use this with my 1933 league to play a game, none of the players are even going to resemble Hornsby, Ruth, Gehrig, or any other player for that matter. Whats the fun of just having thier names on the screen when you play HH? I can do that by creating those players in HH anyway. More power to them, if they can do it, but I just don't see the use in it for me personally.

03-21-2002, 08:54 AM	#28
Gorgias Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7	Well, I for one think this is an awesome idea. I would definitely be interested in trying out such a utility, since I still enjoy playing games in HH. Sometimes I will be simming or playing games in ootp, and I will feel the need for some action, so I will switch over and play a game in HH. Good luck to you guys, I'll be watching for updates! Guy

05-03-2002, 01:29 AM	#31
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	<a href="http://www.3do.com/highheat/2003/" target="_blank">High Heat Baseball</a> __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

05-03-2002, 01:32 AM	#32
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by IatricSB: <strong><a href="http://www.3do.com/highheat/2003/" target="_blank">High Heat Baseball</a></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Personally, I've never played it. Not what I'm looking for in a game. OOTP fit the bill perfectly __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

05-03-2002, 07:34 AM	#33
MiddleGA Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 77	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Joe Stallings: ... try to ease up on the cynicism. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have zero interest in HH, so I don't really have a dog in this fight but ... Where should the line between cynicism & realism be drawn? If there is a history about this project as several in the thread indicate, then comments about it would seem to be very appropriate. And you know as well as I do that once a producer of any product makes an annoucement, the topic is pretty much fair game for public opinion. There may be a line, but I sure didn't see anything in this thread that crossed it. Jon

05-03-2002, 11:47 AM	#34
Flasch186 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 24	High Heat has never had a career mode. Will this cause any problems?

05-03-2002, 11:52 AM	#35
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	High Heat had a career mode....just not a very good one.

05-05-2002, 04:56 PM	#36
PLG All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 640	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Viper: <strong>bumping this hope in hope of some news... pierre or matt, hows it going?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Working on the Editor is my priority for the moment. __________________ Pierre pierrepage30@hotmail.com If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?

05-06-2002, 08:34 AM	#37
seadog852 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 132	2 quick questions for Pierre P. 1. When you get this editor done...where can we dl it? 2. Last I heard you were 35% done, is that number growing or stable? __________________ Mike Jewell 852BL Commish www.852bl.ootp-leagues.com "Don't sweat the small stuff."

05-06-2002, 08:58 AM	#38
Willy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Regina, Sk Posts: 443	Pierre said in another thread that he is 3.83% away from an alpha release. __________________ Consoles are for little kids.