Catcher Ability Paired With Certain Pitchers?

[Timofmars]

I was wondering if there might be any particular kind of pitchers that benefit more from catchers with good catcher ability. I haven't tested anything, but I would guess that the catcher ability can help with getting some close pitches called as strikes more often.If that's true, is there a kind of pitcher could benefit the most from this?

I thought perhaps high Stuff pitchers can benefit since an extra strike could make them a lot more likely to get a K (not to mention it makes them 1 ball further away from giving up a walk), compared to a contact pitcher that maybe doesn't get far into the count before a ball is put in play. Though maybe it is still proportional in benefit, since the high K guy was already going to strike out many batters, so the good catcher may add a few more, while the low K guy was already going to strike out few, so the catcher helps add a few, so it's a wash.

So then I thought maybe high control pitchers could benefit more, because their pitches tend to be close to the strike zone, and so the catcher has more chances to influence the strike/ball call. Low control guys seem to pitch rather wildly, from way outside the zone for 1 pitch, to right down the middle on the next, so the catcher would be no help in framing these kinds of pitches.

Any thoughts? Maybe someone who does pitch by pitch has noticed some trends?

[Argonaut]

I believe things like the strike zone and most of the pitch-by-pitch detail doesn't matter as much as you think, or isn't really represented in OOTP.

My wager is that the kind of pitcher who benefits most from Catcher Ability is a High-Stuff / Low-Control guy. For simplicity sake let's say a super defensive catcher gives 10% more strikeouts, and 10% fewer walks. As you have alluded to... in that case the percentage boost will be more effective with higher strikeouts, and also nicely reduce the quantity of walks.

If you have someone like Tommy John or Randy Jones, then if I'm right they won't benefit as much from an excellent catcher. Though of course any bonus is good. But these finesse pitching types will benefit more from a better infield and outfield defense than their power pitching counterparts.

[Charlie Hough]

Catching ability definitely affects pitching performance in OOTP. This was added to the game as of OOTP13, to reflect a catcher's ability to frame thrown pitches. Here's the link to the original announcement and discussion from OOTP Developments:

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=218657

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by Argonaut

If you have someone like Tommy John or Randy Jones, then if I'm right they won't benefit as much from an excellent catcher. Though of course any bonus is good. But these finesse pitching types will benefit more from a better infield and outfield defense than their power pitching counterparts.

Seems backward to the way it "should" be

I'd think a good framing catcher would benefit a pitcher with command who "lives on the edges" more than a pitcher who can blow hitters away with stuff.

[Carlton]

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[Carlton]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Seems backward to the way it "should" be

I'd think a good framing catcher would benefit a pitcher with command who "lives on the edges" more than a pitcher who can blow hitters away with stuff.

Agreed

Power pitchers make batters chase out of the zone. They could have a boulder back there and still be relatively consistent

There is a reason control pitchers like Greg Maddux, R.A. Dickey, Carlton, Kershaw,Lester had special catchers who could frame close ones

I would love to see 'personal catchers' in OOTP as a storyline, maybe