Interfering Owner - Page 2

Brad K · 10-26-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

No, sorry. I do.

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As you may have surmised, Mr. Morris has been "lobotomized" to be as neutral to results as possible. Neither a tyrant nor a mollycoddler. I don't want my game artificially influenced, with my efforts boosted or thwarted, by a random setting; for Owner Spending especially.

Now, since I have ultimate job security, why do I care? I could even set myself up as commissioner (which I avoid because I am afraid of doing such things as inadvertently forcing trades or hitting Clone/Retire/Delete (a player) instead of Transaction) to thereby override a penny-pincher's budget.

But I do want some reasonable limits and I do value the owner's goals - often good hints for improving my teams. An even playing field, if you will. I artificially create this environment.

Some people will cry "cheat" at this and others will relish the challenge of having a brute for an owner. I want to concentrate on my GM talents in fair competition, on the field and off.

I don't think your owner settings are cheating. However being #2 in payroll is taking advantage of him.

Westheim · 10-26-2020, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tejdog1

I have the BEST combination

I'd frame that guy for murder.

Then get Tommy jr., who's all of this, and IN-tolerant.

mytreds · 10-26-2020, 03:57 PM

Winning is easy. Give yourself a challenge! You might like it!

tejdog1 · 10-26-2020, 06:43 PM

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Déjà Bru · 10-26-2020, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

Winning is easy. Give yourself a challenge! You might like it!

I assume this is in response to my earlier post. A fair statement, and thought-provoking. Here's my thinking.

Over time (that is, a substantial amount of simulated game time), I find OOTPB to be sufficiently challenging on the level playing field that I mentioned. (This includes Trading Difficulty on Hard, Trading Preference on Neutral, fair competition for good coaches, and all Market Sizes set to Average. That is, no shenanigans.)

So, I can imagine and have experienced in the past the handicap of a new owner who is an interfering penny-pincher. I choose to avoid this narrowly-gauged randomness which will put me behind the eight-ball for perhaps a decade or more. Remember, I will not have a chance at the benefit of having a creampuff for an owner, either. Everything down the middle regarding the owner.

That leaves the randomness built into larger aspects of the game. Draft choices, trading results, on-the-field luck. These aspects, being many, I can accept. Hopefully my luck breaks even and my TALENT wins championships. Not how much money my owner gave me to play with or whether he approves of my free agents.

That's the way that I play. I fully respect and admire those who would take what comes as to team ownership along with all other facets of this game. I'm not even advocating the way that I play. As usual, I come here to pontificate and substantiate my thoughts to myself.

Assos · 10-27-2020, 05:55 AM

Oh how I yearn for the days when a team was not owned by a faceless corporate overlord who believed in profit over winning. Now, the sport is a printing press of dollar bills and winning means nothing. Jerry Jones makes money hand over fist and his team has won nothing in 25 years, but he is going to be his own GM. People forget that the Yankees were mediocre in the 1980s and it took a suspension of King George to build a farm system and let Stick Michaels and crew rebuild.

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mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,183	Winning is easy. Give yourself a challenge! You might like it! __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

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tejdog1 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 1,654	removed __________________ It's amazing How you make your face just like a wall How you take your heart and turn it off How I turn my head and lose it all And it's unnerving How just one move puts me by myself There you go just trusting someone else Now I know I put us both through hell ~Matchbox 20, "Leave" Everyone knows it's spelled "TRAID", not trade Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 10-27-2020 at 06:42 AM. Reason: Warning issued, edited post .

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Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,768	Oh how I yearn for the days when a team was not owned by a faceless corporate overlord who believed in profit over winning. Now, the sport is a printing press of dollar bills and winning means nothing. Jerry Jones makes money hand over fist and his team has won nothing in 25 years, but he is going to be his own GM. People forget that the Yankees were mediocre in the 1980s and it took a suspension of King George to build a farm system and let Stick Michaels and crew rebuild.