Wild pitches / passed balls with runners on 3b

[DonMattingly]

Why is it in such cases, the runner is never, ever thrown out at the plate?

I've never seen it happen, they score 100% of the time.

[Sweed]

Because the game only simulates wild pitches\pb, it does not simulate balls that get away without advancement. It can't be a wp\pb if a runner is thrown out or if no runner advances.

Of course it would be nice if the game did simulate errant balls without advancement or runners being out trying. I would love the excitement of seeing the ball get away from the C and a runner trying to advance not knowing if he would make it.

Not sure if developers consider this not worth the coding time or if there are not real world stats to base it on? In today's world it may well be that baseball reference has the stats, I just haven't looked so don't know.

Hopefully added someday.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Because the game only simulates wild pitches\pb, it does not simulate balls that get away without advancement. It can't be a wp\pb if a runner is thrown out or if no runner advances.

Of course it would be nice if the game did simulate errant balls without advancement or runners being out trying. I would love the excitement of seeing the ball get away from the C and a runner trying to advance not knowing if he would make it.

Not sure if developers consider this not worth the coding time or if there are not real world stats to base it on? In today's world it may well be that baseball reference has the stats, I just haven't looked so don't know.

Hopefully added someday.

I've never seen a runner thrown out at home, even when there is more than one runner on base - ie one on third and another one or two on second and/or first.

Only one runner needs to advance for a WP/PB to have happened.

[CBeisbol]

It doesn't happen

It should happen

It's far from the biggest issue

Doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to fix

[Art Deco]

By the same token every time a fielder bobbles a ball it's an error, I'd like to see them once in a while still make the play, especially if it's a slow runner.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Art Deco

By the same token every time a fielder bobbles a ball it's an error, I'd like to see them once in a while still make the play, especially if it's a slow runner.

I'm quite sure I've seen more than one bobble and out play.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by RchW

I'm quite sure I've seen more than one bobble and out play.

I have seen a few of those, you really have to catch it in the text narration to notice them.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

I've never seen a runner thrown out at home, even when there is more than one runner on base - ie one on third and another one or two on second and/or first.

Only one runner needs to advance for a WP/PB to have happened.

If a runner on second advances on a WP/PB and the runner on third is thrown out, it's no longer a WP/PB. That's literally how the rules work.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by Art Deco

By the same token every time a fielder bobbles a ball it's an error, I'd like to see them once in a while still make the play, especially if it's a slow runner.

Diving plays are almost always errors

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

It doesn't happen

It should happen

It's far from the biggest issue

Doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to fix

I think the issue they run into, potentially, is that you'd need to quantify how often a would-be WP/PB that ends in a runner being thrown out happens. Like you said, it's not monumental but it's probably not something you can fix in like 10 minutes or something.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Diving plays are almost always errors

I still see some but I think it was cleaned up quite a bit in the last patch with the new animations they added. I've see quite a few where they dive side to side and get up and throw the runner out.

Not sure if the one where they dive head first towards the plate is still in the game? That was always an error. I've seen dives and throwing errors but I don't think I've seen that particular animation since the patch. Could be it was reduced enough I just missed it.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

If a runner on second advances on a WP/PB and the runner on third is thrown out, it's no longer a WP/PB. That's literally how the rules work.

Link?

"A wild pitch may only be scored if one or more runners advance."

I am not finding your qualification.

You could have a runner thrown out at home and still have one or two other runners advance on the same play.

[BirdWatcher]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

Link?

"A wild pitch may only be scored if one or more runners advance."

I am not finding your qualification.

You could have a runner thrown out at home and still have one or two other runners advance on the same play.

Perhaps this: https://baseballrulesacademy.com/off...-passed-balls/

Relevant quote: Rule 9.13 Comment: The Official Scorer shall not charge a wild pitch or passed ball if the defensive team makes an out before any runners advance. For example, if a pitch touches the ground and eludes the catcher with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the Official Scorer shall not charge the pitcher with a wild pitch. The Official Scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice.* If a catcher drops a pitch, for example, with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the Official Scorer shall not charge the catcher with a passed ball. The Official Scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice.

EDIT: *italics mine

[Azagoth]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

Why is it in such cases, the runner is never, ever thrown out at the plate?

I've never seen it happen, they score 100% of the time.

Or why, with runners on first and second, a grounder to the third baseman never results in a 5u or 5-3 DP?

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Or why, with runners on first and second, a grounder to the third baseman never results in a 5u or 5-3 DP?

Happened to me the other day
(I think. Pretty sure)

[ohiodevil]

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Or why, with runners on first and second, a grounder to the third baseman never results in a 5u or 5-3 DP?

I just had at 5-3 double play to end game 6 of the world series (I was on the losing end) this morning.

[Bobbyraz49]

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Or why, with runners on first and second, a grounder to the third baseman never results in a 5u or 5-3 DP?

One of my biggest issues with this game.
And...… base hit to an outfielder thrown to a cut-off man. The runner runs in front of cut-off man and is safe. While the defender holds onto the ball instead of throwing it to the base.