Does anyone like the in-game sound design in 21?

risp2out · 06-09-2020, 12:38 AM

I get that there is some nice background nuance, but the lack of crowd reaction through most of the game is horrible. Not even a murmur for scoring plays or inning-ending strike outs. I like to hear a roar for a home run and a disappointed "oooohhhh" for a home team error. I hope a future patch will restore some GAME to the sound.

[And, btw, still a huge OOTP fan as I have been for many years, but want to lodge my gripe about this feature.]

Giants44 · 06-09-2020, 02:09 AM

you are not getting any crowd reactions?

if so i would check the edit sounds in the ballpark you are having this trouble in and make sure that the correct folder is selected and you have sounds in there.

I have also included a small zip of the sounds that are in mine. others may have considerably more extensive options. but if you unzip this into your default sounds folder it should at least give you most of the basics

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fx6frndi77...ounds.zip?dl=0

there is also a good thread in the mods section that has some sound stuff - https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=314813

Markus Heinsohn · 06-09-2020, 05:11 AM

We improved these quite a bit for the MLB Dream Bracket videos, so if you are running the latest patch, things should be fine. Of course, there's always room for improvement, sound is one of the things we work on every year.

MizzouRah · 06-09-2020, 09:00 AM

There is a very cool sounds mod over in the mods forum.

risp2out · 06-09-2020, 09:04 AM

Thanks for the responses. I'll try to check the folders later today. I always try to keep the patches updated, too, but I'll 2x check.

risp2out · 06-10-2020, 07:01 AM

So, I checked it out. All of the files seem to be in place. I also updated my sound drivers just to be safe.

I simply do NOT hear any crowd reactions. I hear the background crowd, ambient noises, "Strike three!" and "Out!" from the umps, crack of the bat, the organ hype song, etc., but I DON'T hear cheers and boos, nothing to indicate that the crowd is reacting to the plays or situations. To be clear, it's not a matter of not liking the sounds; I do not hear crowd reactions to the action.

Any ideas at all?

EDIT: I just went back and played through a game on OOTP20 on the same computer. Sound worked perfectly. All crowd reactions happened: claps, cheers, boos, ooohs. I don't know if that's helpful information or not, but it sure makes a huge difference in the in-game experience.

Help, please. I want the crowd reactions in 21.

PoopyJoe69 · 06-10-2020, 04:33 PM

I am also not hearing any crowd reactions, I just have ambient and game noises but nothing in terms of reactions. I checked my sounds folder and they're all there, and I also can't hear any of the custom sounds that I downloaded either.

Lukas Berger · 06-10-2020, 06:16 PM

If you're not hearing some stuff, definitely you'll want to check your sound card (probably video card as well) drivers and update them if a newer version is available. Or if you're on a Mac, do an OS update, if needed.

risp2out · 06-10-2020, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

If you're not hearing some stuff, definitely you'll want to check your sound card (probably video card as well) drivers and update them if a newer version is available. Or if you're on a Mac, do an OS update, if needed.

All drivers up to date. That was the first thing I did upon realizing this wasn't intentional.

cloverleaf92 · 06-11-2020, 10:58 AM

I like to play both the current season, as well as 1901 and 1892 seasons. It is rather amusing to be playing a game during the 1901 season and then you hear an airplane flying over head. Airplanes weren't invented until 1903, two years later. I've tried to stop it, but no soluton yet. Still, though, more amusing that annoying.

mjcarr74 · 06-11-2020, 06:13 PM

You can just find the file in the sounds folder and remove it i would put it in a backup folder

mjcarr74 · 06-11-2020, 06:22 PM

Love the new feature for sounds this year!!

risp2out · 06-13-2020, 08:39 AM

I wish I could experience them.

As someone who plays out all his games, this is kind of killing 21 for me. For the time being, I guess I'll go back to 20.

Eugene Church · 06-13-2020, 11:51 AM

I always check out sound and animation when I first get the new version of the game... I only listened one time and found the sound is still very poorly done... not so the animation... animation is getting there and has made great progress since OOTP19... I don't use the sound... it will probably years before it will be good enough for me to use.

But I thought that same thing about the animation two years ago and now I love using it.

Maybe one day I will be pleasantly surprised by the sound.

The play-by-play sound is just plain bad... the sound effects are not very well done and synchronized... when there's something good happening on the field, the fans need to react appropriately.

Please take my opinion with a grain of salt... I have not really listened to the sound that much... I could be very wrong.

risp2out · 06-13-2020, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

I always check out sound and animation when I first get the new version of the game... I only listened one time and found the sound is still very poorly done... not so the animation... animation is getting there and has made great progress since OOTP19... I don't use the sound... it will probably years before it will be good enough for me to use.

But I thought that same thing about the animation two years ago and now I love using it.

Maybe one day I will be pleasantly surprised by the sound.

The play-by-play sound is just plain bad... the sound effects are not very well done and synchronized... when there's something good happening on the field, the fans need to react appropriately.

Please take my opinion with a grain of salt... I have not really listened to the sound that much... I could be very wrong.

I'm now convinced that the sound is not working properly on my machine, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why not. The same files clearly work in OOTP20 as the fans cheer and boo or ooh and aah for the right things, at least.

At first, I thought maybe they had just taken them down because people complained that there was too much cheering and booing or something. So, I was trying to say, "You went too far the other way."

But, I don't think that's the case. The game simply isn't playing those files in OOTP 21.

greglw3@yahoo.com · 06-14-2020, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by risp2out

I'm now convinced that the sound is not working properly on my machine, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why not. The same files clearly work in OOTP20 as the fans cheer and boo or ooh and aah for the right things, at least.

At first, I thought maybe they had just taken them down because people complained that there was too much cheering and booing or something. So, I was trying to say, "You went too far the other way."

But, I don't think that's the case. The game simply isn't playing those files in OOTP 21.

The crowd reactions seem to be working for the home team for me although it could be a little better. I’m not a fan of the "Let’s go Let’s go" chant but if it was "Let’s go Twins!" "Let’s go Twins" that would be a big upgrade. I like the organ and I do have my sound turned down to 60 because at 100, it was just too loud and distracted from the game. I love the crack of the bat sound and following the ball using the wide camera. Watching Buxton take away hit after hit and hitting .390ish is really cool. Hopefully it’s a predictor. I use a MacBook Pro with Catalina and the Retina display, 8 GB RAM.

DreamTeams · 06-14-2020, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

I always check out sound and animation when I first get the new version of the game... I only listened one time and found the sound is still very poorly done... not so the animation... animation is getting there and has made great progress since OOTP19... I don't use the sound... it will probably years before it will be good enough for me to use.

But I thought that same thing about the animation two years ago and now I love using it.

Maybe one day I will be pleasantly surprised by the sound.

The play-by-play sound is just plain bad... the sound effects are not very well done and synchronized... when there's something good happening on the field, the fans need to react appropriately.

Please take my opinion with a grain of salt... I have not really listened to the sound that much... I could be very wrong.

Nope, you're not wrong. Sound has been half baked for quite some time. Here's what I don't get, at least in my game anyway. But, every time a home run is hit by the home team you get the horn without fail. Hooray! That's encouraging progress. But, then at times, on other home team scores there is no crowd reaction. Why the consistency on homers but not on other scores? Baffles me.

micropterus58 · 06-14-2020, 01:43 PM

I have noticed that my team rarely has their name announced at away games. Only pitching changes seem to be announced at away games. I have created OGG files for my team only. The sounds play at home games fine. I don't want to copy these files to every stadium specific folder.

mjcarr74 · 06-14-2020, 02:32 PM

They only announce the home team but I hope in future they can do away teams also

outrider64 · 06-14-2020, 02:54 PM

I noticed a new crowd sound when playing the Dream Bracket 2 tourney, the crowd goes into a "let's go let's go" chant when home team has men on base ,but to me it sounds weird, hard to explain. Listen for it and you'll see what I mean.

06-09-2020, 12:38 AM	#1
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	Does anyone like the in-game sound design in 21? I get that there is some nice background nuance, but the lack of crowd reaction through most of the game is horrible. Not even a murmur for scoring plays or inning-ending strike outs. I like to hear a roar for a home run and a disappointed "oooohhhh" for a home team error. I hope a future patch will restore some GAME to the sound. [And, btw, still a huge OOTP fan as I have been for many years, but want to lodge my gripe about this feature.]

06-09-2020, 02:09 AM	#2
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	you are not getting any crowd reactions? if so i would check the edit sounds in the ballpark you are having this trouble in and make sure that the correct folder is selected and you have sounds in there. I have also included a small zip of the sounds that are in mine. others may have considerably more extensive options. but if you unzip this into your default sounds folder it should at least give you most of the basics https://www.dropbox.com/s/fx6frndi77...ounds.zip?dl=0 there is also a good thread in the mods section that has some sound stuff - https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=314813 Attached Images __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

06-09-2020, 05:11 AM	#3
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	We improved these quite a bit for the MLB Dream Bracket videos, so if you are running the latest patch, things should be fine. Of course, there's always room for improvement, sound is one of the things we work on every year. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

06-10-2020, 07:01 AM	#6
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	So, I checked it out. All of the files seem to be in place. I also updated my sound drivers just to be safe. I simply do NOT hear any crowd reactions. I hear the background crowd, ambient noises, "Strike three!" and "Out!" from the umps, crack of the bat, the organ hype song, etc., but I DON'T hear cheers and boos, nothing to indicate that the crowd is reacting to the plays or situations. To be clear, it's not a matter of not liking the sounds; I do not hear crowd reactions to the action. Any ideas at all? EDIT: I just went back and played through a game on OOTP20 on the same computer. Sound worked perfectly. All crowd reactions happened: claps, cheers, boos, ooohs. I don't know if that's helpful information or not, but it sure makes a huge difference in the in-game experience. Help, please. I want the crowd reactions in 21. Last edited by risp2out; 06-10-2020 at 07:40 AM.

06-10-2020, 04:33 PM	#7
PoopyJoe69 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 301	I am also not hearing any crowd reactions, I just have ambient and game noises but nothing in terms of reactions. I checked my sounds folder and they're all there, and I also can't hear any of the custom sounds that I downloaded either. Last edited by PoopyJoe69; 06-10-2020 at 04:35 PM.

06-09-2020, 09:00 AM	#4
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	There is a very cool sounds mod over in the mods forum.

06-09-2020, 09:04 AM	#5
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	Thanks for the responses. I'll try to check the folders later today. I always try to keep the patches updated, too, but I'll 2x check.

06-10-2020, 06:16 PM	#8
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,133	If you're not hearing some stuff, definitely you'll want to check your sound card (probably video card as well) drivers and update them if a newer version is available. Or if you're on a Mac, do an OS update, if needed. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com PreOrder Out of the Park Baseball 26! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

06-11-2020, 10:58 AM	#10
cloverleaf92 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 8	I like to play both the current season, as well as 1901 and 1892 seasons. It is rather amusing to be playing a game during the 1901 season and then you hear an airplane flying over head. Airplanes weren't invented until 1903, two years later. I've tried to stop it, but no soluton yet. Still, though, more amusing that annoying.

06-11-2020, 06:13 PM	#11
mjcarr74 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 400	You can just find the file in the sounds folder and remove it i would put it in a backup folder

06-11-2020, 06:22 PM	#12
mjcarr74 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 400	Love the new feature for sounds this year!!

06-13-2020, 08:39 AM	#13
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	I wish I could experience them. As someone who plays out all his games, this is kind of killing 21 for me. For the time being, I guess I'll go back to 20.

06-13-2020, 11:51 AM	#14
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,830	I always check out sound and animation when I first get the new version of the game... I only listened one time and found the sound is still very poorly done... not so the animation... animation is getting there and has made great progress since OOTP19... I don't use the sound... it will probably years before it will be good enough for me to use. But I thought that same thing about the animation two years ago and now I love using it. Maybe one day I will be pleasantly surprised by the sound. The play-by-play sound is just plain bad... the sound effects are not very well done and synchronized... when there's something good happening on the field, the fans need to react appropriately. Please take my opinion with a grain of salt... I have not really listened to the sound that much... I could be very wrong. Last edited by Eugene Church; 06-13-2020 at 10:38 PM.

06-14-2020, 01:43 PM	#18
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,189	I have noticed that my team rarely has their name announced at away games. Only pitching changes seem to be announced at away games. I have created OGG files for my team only. The sounds play at home games fine. I don't want to copy these files to every stadium specific folder.

06-14-2020, 02:32 PM	#19
mjcarr74 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 400	They only announce the home team but I hope in future they can do away teams also

06-14-2020, 02:54 PM	#20
outrider64 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In The Bleachers Posts: 420	I noticed a new crowd sound when playing the Dream Bracket 2 tourney, the crowd goes into a "let's go let's go" chant when home team has men on base ,but to me it sounds weird, hard to explain. Listen for it and you'll see what I mean.