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[too_on_too_out]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Yeah, regarding random number generation in computers, it would actually be much harder for OOTP to base its random seed off something other than “system time when process X started (which in turn was put into motion by a user action)”, since that’s the way the randomizes that come with most languages nowadays work (I’d say all but maybe there’s something else out there I’m not aware of - I’m positive that C#, Java, and JavaScript all do this because I work with those languages and there are things you have to do to account for the fact that they use system time).

And yes, absolutely with pattern recognition too. In fact, my problem with OOTP’s scouting system is that there are basically no false positives with established players, and so therefore if you see a 10 year vet’s Power drop, you can be pretty much 100% positive that was a real drop, when in fact there should still be false positives even for vets. What’s more, you never, ever see a false negative (an actual Power drop that’s not noticed by your scout). A scout using proper Bayesian analysis should categorically not watch a guy he knows like a book, see slower bat speed or whatever, and immediately conclude that his power just dipped 5 “points”. Your scouts really ought to *trail* the statistics, not anticipate them.

Of course they use the clock. Ergo - not random. Again, ontological. You (and Rch apparently, which disappoints me) are confusing 'random' with 'unique'. The clock + algo can only generate a UNIQUE number (unless the clock gets reset of course, so even that is tenuous, but for our purposes it's close enough). Unique is not synonymous with random. Two very different things.

[Syd Thrift]

If you scroll upwards, you will notice that I said that computers can’t create random numbers. Please stop making up positions I don’t hold.

[too_on_too_out]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

You’re pooping out of your mouth at this point. You were wrong. An adult accepts that, takes the L, and moves on. You do you.

I see. The old - 'I will take both sides of the argument, distort the one I am against and therefore ensure victory' - ploy.


Describe the ontology. You can't.



Purely rational requires procedure and random can never come from procedure.



There, I stated it nice and simple in one sentence. Ignore away.

[too_on_too_out]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

If you scroll upwards, you will notice that I said that computers can’t create random numbers. Please stop making up positions I don’t hold.

What are you talking about?? I'm screaming this at my cat! (every friday we get into this argument, don't know what it is about fridays)

[Will_L]

Originally Posted by too_on_too_out

(every friday we get into this argument, don't know what it is about fridays)

Hey, that's a pattern.
"See Mikey, I'm smart. Not like they say, like stupid."

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by too_on_too_out

I've come to view pulling out the wiki page link as a white flag in forum threads. Sort of like calling someone 'Hitler'. Speaking of which, what happened to Matt?

I thought nobody knew about Godwin's Law anymore.

[too_on_too_out]

Originally Posted by Brad K

I thought nobody knew about Godwin's Law anymore.

Well c'mon, we know he hasn't actually read that page he linked to. Nobody reads wiki, they just link to it.

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by robc

Good to see you again! I'm glad to see you're still enjoying baseball games. Hope you and those you love are doing well and haven't gotten sick during this epidemic.

We are doing well thank you. How are you and yours? Strange days indeed.😁

[robc]

Originally Posted by Zorro

We are doing well thank you. How are you and yours? Strange days indeed.😁

We are fine here. Online teaching for my son was different, but he continued to do well. We are all healthy so that is good! Thanks!

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by robc

We are fine here. Online teaching for my son was different, but he continued to do well. We are all healthy so that is good! Thanks!

Yes, Online teaching for this long has to suck. I am very happy he is doing well with it. I was thinking back on the forum Shaun Sullivan was such a great guy. He was another programmer who really cared about his product and customers. In fact he got so down he just gave up and gave his game away. That forum was special. We were all very close there. Good to see you here my friend.😁

[Cynical]

Originally Posted by cheo25

Don't remind me. When your 70 defensive catcher plays like a 30. I've seen that happen in OOTP, too, so, see, OOTP covers everything.

I think I spent most of that series yelling "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!" at my screen. You know it's bad when the manager comes out for a mound visit, ignores the pitcher, and spends it chewing out the catcher!

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by Cynical

I think I spent most of that series yelling "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!" at my screen. You know it's bad when the manager comes out for a mound visit, ignores the pitcher, and spends it chewing out the catcher!

Tooo funny....😂

[dbl4868]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If you can crack the RNG in the game, you should be doing far better things with your talents than using it to win at OOTP.

LoL


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[Cyprian]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

It’s a game of percentages and that means sometimes you come out on the other side of random chance. The team I root for once won 116 games in the regular season and then lost in the postseason to a “big market team with all the advantages”. That doesn’t mean MLB is fixed, it means the Mariners had an awful week right when they needed to be at their best.

If anything the biggest complaint I see is the exact opposite: that GM mode is too easy to win and even big market teams just don’t present that much of a challenge.

My point is that its not a game of percentages, if it were your following statement of "sometimes" would be accurate. The percentages are skewed, in my opinion towards big market teams. I mean where are the people that buy this game? More would most likely be in bigger markets simply because there are more fans. So make money by making those fans happy. I have played multiple smaller market teams with superior lineups and they still struggle to win, and have played bigger market teams with lineups that are not as good and they had no trouble winning. Just for the hell of it I simmed out 2 more seasons with similar results one a big market team and one small. Simply put I think the devs have decided money matters more than accuracy. And that's their prerogative, but you've lost me as a consumer after this iteration of the game. Which again I am sure doesn't matter much to the devs.

[Syd Thrift]

I’m certain that the devs don’t care about ridiculousness like this post, I agree. There are plenty of dynasties on this board that you can look at if you really think the game itself is somehow cooking results in favor of large market teams.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I’m certain that the devs don’t care about ridiculousness like this post, I agree. There are plenty of dynasties on this board that you can look at if you really think the game itself is somehow cooking results in favor of large market teams.

Hmmm...Seeing conspiracies where there are none. Now, where have I heard that before?

[Cyprian]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I’m certain that the devs don’t care about ridiculousness like this post, I agree. There are plenty of dynasties on this board that you can look at if you really think the game itself is somehow cooking results in favor of large market teams.

Money Talks, and wheres the money?

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by Cyprian

Money Talks, and wheres the money?

You've provided zero evidence and made no compelling argument to support your claim

[Matt Arnold]

There's no inherrent bonus to small or large market teams, other than our completely accurate code which causes players on Mets franchises to blow out their arms at rates much higher than league average.

[Ty Cobb]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

There's no inherrent bonus to small or large market teams, other than our completely accurate code which causes players on Mets franchises to blow out their arms at rates much higher than league average.

an ***...I laughed uncontrollably at this. Thank you, Matt!