How do you handle position changes?

[ALB123]

Let's say that I have 2 SS's on my Active Roster who are very, very close in every way, stat-wise, but my current 2B stinks. Both of the SS's have good 2B ratings and good bats, so I figure I'll move one SS into 2B and go win some games.

Do you just slide one of the SS's into 2B and go about your business? Or do you right-click on one of the SS's and Set Position to 2B in addition to physically putting him at 2B? It won't affect his performance, right? I've used the Set Position... option a lot. However, I'm wondering if I'm doing myself a disservice somehow especially with UT guys who play 5 positions. Is it just better management to leave him listed on his as a SS on his Profile Page even if he's going to play 2B, RF & 3B but NOT SS (unless my starter goes down or gets tired)? Would it affect trade possibilities if an AI team is looking for a SS but I changed him to 2B on his Profile Page??

[jpeters1734]

changing his position can affect the overall rating, but i have honestly not noticed any other effects. I like to change it just for visual reasons

[CBeisbol]

I am 99% sure it makes no difference

[jimmysthebestcop]

I do both usually in the show I change it so I dont get confused as they will be there long term. In the minors I leave their original position as I am trying to develop their bats and they could be playing completely out of position or at dh. Depends if I get too many same position players stuck in a level and cant move them.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I do both usually in the show I change it so I dont get confused as they will be there long term. In the minors I leave their original position as I am trying to develop their bats and they could be playing completely out of position or at dh. Depends if I get too many same position players stuck in a level and cant move them.

That's a beautiful idea!! Change it in MLB, leave it in Minors. Your explanation is simple to remember. Awesome. I will be using that method from now on.

[luckymann]

Yeah it's a tricky one. I'm kind of the same as jpeters in that I like having a spread in my rosters. But it gets confusing as to who plays where as primary if you don't keep some sort of record.

Same goes with using SP as RP and RP in the rotation. It's a nightmare!

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by ALB123

That's a beautiful idea!! Change it in MLB, leave it in Minors. Your explanation is simple to remember. Awesome. I will be using that method from now on.

Yeah lets use AA as an example. Say I am packed with CF in AA. Once I run out of OF spots then there is DH and even 1B. Honestly don't care if he can even field at 1B but I want him to get AB's. If you change position and forget when quickly checking lists you might be like oh who is this 1.5 star guy not realizing he is a 4 star CF.

[perez24]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Yeah lets use AA as an example. Say I am packed with CF in AA. Once I run out of OF spots then there is DH and even 1B. Honestly don't care if he can even field at 1B but I want him to get AB's. If you change position and forget when quickly checking lists you might be like oh who is this 1.5 star guy not realizing he is a 4 star CF.

I do that when my Assistant GM drafts 9 catchers!

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by perez24

I do that when my Assistant GM drafts 9 catchers!

I usually hire the youngest possible coach (any form of coach) from the craziest non traditional baseball nation and make him my assistant gm.

[perez24]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I usually hire the youngest possible coach (any form of coach) from the craziest non traditional baseball nation and make him my assistant gm.

Nice! I usually fill the role of idiot executive myself.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

changing his position can affect the overall rating, but i have honestly not noticed any other effects. I like to change it just for visual reasons

I have always changed it, but for the same reason. Just for visual preference.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by perez24

I do that when my Assistant GM drafts 9 catchers!

I am a control freak, so I do not let my assistant do anything, but shine my shoes. I would not trust my assistant to handle the draft. If someone is going to draft 9 catchers, it is going to be me.

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by luckymann

Yeah it's a tricky one. I'm kind of the same as jpeters in that I like having a spread in my rosters. But it gets confusing as to who plays where as primary if you don't keep some sort of record.

Same goes with using SP as RP and RP in the rotation. It's a nightmare!

That the positions of the players who are being "forced" into a role show up in pink takes care of this for me. Anyone who I'm moving around to different positions gets "forced" so I can easily tell who are. At least when looking at my minor league lineups and rotations.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by luckymann

Yeah it's a tricky one. I'm kind of the same as jpeters in that I like having a spread in my rosters. But it gets confusing as to who plays where as primary if you don't keep some sort of record.

Same goes with using SP as RP and RP in the rotation. It's a nightmare!

Yeah...I know what you're saying. In anything A+ and under, I barely remember anyone's name, let alone their original role. I know this isn't a perfect thing by any means, but usually, I'll bring up all of the pitchers on a modified Pitching Rating View that I created. I sort by stamina and more often than not, Any 65 and higher is a SP. It's not always true... I drafted Kenny Rogers on my Yankees team and he started at 45 for Stamina and it didn't increase until AAA.

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Yeah lets use AA as an example. Say I am packed with CF in AA. Once I run out of OF spots then there is DH and even 1B. Honestly don't care if he can even field at 1B but I want him to get AB's. If you change position and forget when quickly checking lists you might be like oh who is this 1.5 star guy not realizing he is a 4 star CF.

Same. I know for a fact I've lost at least one player due to changing his position on-field and in his Profile. I was wondering why I got offers on that guy.

Originally Posted by perez24

Nice! I usually fill the role of idiot executive myself.

I'm right there with you, perez24...

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I usually hire the youngest possible coach (any form of coach) from the craziest non traditional baseball nation and make him my assistant gm.

Oh really? I never even thought of putting a non-executive into the Asst. GM role. Not even a manager! Sadly, there are so few non-Americans in my Universe because I can't set up other leagues like indy and Cuban or Korean & Japanese in a Historical role. I am so bummed about that. But anyway, that's good to know. Thanks.

Originally Posted by perez24

I do that when my Assistant GM drafts 9 catchers!

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

I am a control freak, so I do not let my assistant do anything, but shine my shoes. I would not trust my assistant to handle the draft. If someone is going to draft 9 catchers, it is going to be me.

Ahhhh...I'm glad you mentioned that. The last Draft I had, I went peeking at the Mock Draft to see who the big dawgs might be. Round after round there was a Catcher next to my Team Name Honestly, there were 5 in a row then an RP and then 2 more Catchers. And when the actual Draft started, my "Scout Recommendation" was that same Catcher from the Mock Draft. I did draft him and my 2nd round Scout Recommendation was the 2nd Catcher I saw in the Mock Draft. After a bunch of WTFs?! I stopped even asking him for a suggestion.

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

That the positions of the players who are being "forced" into a role show up in pink takes care of this for me. Anyone who I'm moving around to different positions gets "forced" so I can easily tell who are. At least when looking at my minor league lineups and rotations.

Oh, you mean in the individual player's Set Strategy page? Ahhhh...That's not a bad idea either.

Oh, while talking about the Set Strategy pages...

Do any of you use the "Bench When Fatigue %" feature? If you do, how do you take advantage of that feature?

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by ALB123

Oh, you mean in the individual player's Set Strategy page? Ahhhh...That's not a bad idea either.

Yeah
It makes it really obvious which players you are moving between positions

[Syd Thrift]

I am like 99% positive that changing a player from SP to RP and vice versa changes their stamina profile. A SP will be able to throw 100+ pitches in a game but even if they only throw like 20 they won’t be ready to go for 3 or 4 days. A RP meanwhile will be able to bounce back much more quickly. I believe people have to mess around a lot with openers and followers for that reason.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I am like 99% positive that changing a player from SP to RP and vice versa changes their stamina profile. A SP will be able to throw 100+ pitches in a game but even if they only throw like 20 they won’t be ready to go for 3 or 4 days. A RP meanwhile will be able to bounce back much more quickly. I believe people have to mess around a lot with openers and followers for that reason.

The whole stamina concept still remains a mystery to me. On the same Player Dev Report I had a closer who I basically use as a LOOGY go up in stamina and an SP who was fresh off two CGs go down. Bizarre.

[jimmysthebestcop]

Yeah stamina concept is pretty bad in the game. It's too basic for how complex a mechanic it is in IRL. I've only seen pitchers lose stamina rating if they either age or bust.

So you can have a RP for 5 years and start him when he is 100% and he will still go 6-7 innings if he has 60 stamina. And a SP with say 75+ stamina can still only have the same pitch count as like a 30 stamina RP pitcher.

Sure if the SP becomes a full time bull pen then just to get on a throwing routine he will throw about the same as any other RP maybe occasionally some more pitches. But if its like a call up situation or emergency situation aka 1 time thing then he should be able to throw normal.

I had a SP get tossed after like 2 batters. It basically wrecked my entire staff even though I had an emergency SP who was a fresh call up. You still only get 2 or 3 innings depending on pitch count of them.

I'm not sure if the players who play out all the games realize how much of a bad job the AI does managing the bullpen when you sim weeks at a time. Not just for your team but all teams. I haven;t started a new universe yet but I actually think the pitcher stamina/fatigue setting needs to be adjusted to give the AI any hope of managing a bullpen. I know historical settings are different, and the guys who play most games, not sure about fictional but the modern MLB settings while probably accurate give the AI no chance.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Yeah stamina concept is pretty bad in the game. It's too basic for how complex a mechanic it is in IRL. I've only seen pitchers lose stamina rating if they either age or bust.

So you can have a RP for 5 years and start him when he is 100% and he will still go 6-7 innings if he has 60 stamina. And a SP with say 75+ stamina can still only have the same pitch count as like a 30 stamina RP pitcher.

Sure if the SP becomes a full time bull pen then just to get on a throwing routine he will throw about the same as any other RP maybe occasionally some more pitches. But if its like a call up situation or emergency situation aka 1 time thing then he should be able to throw normal.

I had a SP get tossed after like 2 batters. It basically wrecked my entire staff even though I had an emergency SP who was a fresh call up. You still only get 2 or 3 innings depending on pitch count of them.

I'm not sure if the players who play out all the games realize how much of a bad job the AI does managing the bullpen when you sim weeks at a time. Not just for your team but all teams. I haven;t started a new universe yet but I actually think the pitcher stamina/fatigue setting needs to be adjusted to give the AI any hope of managing a bullpen. I know historical settings are different, and the guys who play most games, not sure about fictional but the modern MLB settings while probably accurate give the AI no chance.

Yeah...I'm really beginning to figure that out. I never expected them to be perfect, but wow... Even my Starting Pitchers sometimes. I posted in a different thread a screengrab of the time the AI allowed David Cone to pitch a 13 inning Complete Game. Coney threw 241 pitches to git'er dun. Ridiculous. Oh yeah, and especially in the beginning of the season, I was doing the "Sim for a Week" option... My 1988 season is about to start. We'll see how it goes.

[luckymann]

It's almost impossible to manage this aspect of the game in bulk. You have to diligently check the settings in the Stats & AI tab, not just for the top league, but all the way down. Plus there's the individual strategy settings the AI sets for each team it is managing. I play out all games for the team I am in charge of and am astounded at the number of times an SP who is doing well gets yanked after 4. It only seems to happen when playing out a full game. I'll go to the day's scores after finishing my game and there'll be CGs all over the joint.

I don't have too many complaints about this fantastic game, but having the devs streamline the process of managing the broader universe - including the settings applied - would be fine by me.