Greatest baseball play ever

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

More Jeter. This play probably saved that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Yt8r9ybS8

I hate that WS. Clemens should have been kicked out. More yankee favoritism

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by BMW

But my "dislike" of Jeter is in one form. Damn, whenever the Yankees came up in the trailing in the late inning of a playoff game - there came Derek Jeter. And I swear that 90% of the time after his time at bat, he was on base to give the Yanks hope for a rally. Stressful times every time!

That's why he is in the Hall of Fame.

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I try not to hate any individual. And the reason I don't like Jeter pre-Marlins has very little to do with anything he did. First, he is a Yankee. So he had little hope to begin with as far as I was concerned. Then, it is the media hype. The media pouring the love on someone to the extreme makes me not like them. Brett Favre is someone else I began to root against because of the media. Being a life long Tar Heels fan, I alwaus pulled for Michael Jordan. But the press had me pulling against him by the time he got to his 1st retirement. I freely admit, not very big of me. I get manipulated that way. I own up to my biases.

However, I like to think I'm fair enough in assessing a player/coach's ability even if I don't like him. And I point to my opening post as proof of that. But, again I admit, Jeter did nothing to make me not like him.

Now....once he took over the Marlins, I dislike him for buying the team then selling everyone. I thought Miami baseball fans deserved better. Especially when baseball told S. Florida a new park would allow the Marlins to keep their young stars.

That last part: Fair enough. I only "knew him" as a player. What he's doing down there with the Marlins, I don't follow. (Hmmm, still, consider what he took over and started with.)

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I hate that WS. Clemens should have been kicked out. More yankee favoritism

It was the only WS that had me stressed out initially. Mets fans had nothing to lose. Yankees fans had everything to lose. The Yankees represent NY, not that second rate team filled with disgruntled Brooklyn Dodgers fans and their kids.

The Yankees are the UPS of baseball in NY while the Mets are FedEx. The Yankees are McDonald's, Coke, Heinz, Marlboro. While the Mets are Burger King, Pepsi, Hunts, and Winston.

After a tense first few games, and much like smothering a quadriplegic, the Mets didn't put up much of a fight. I'm glad that was finally put to rest.

[Leo_The_Lip]

Let's not forget Al Gionfriddo's catch off DiMaggio. Many writers and players say it was the only time DiMaggio ever showed emotion on the field.

https://www.efootage.com/videos/9041...nfriddos-catch

[swoboda]

Let;s not forget this World Series gem.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpk7aX_Qawk

Although admittedly Agee's two in one game were better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkenHcDKNg

[Leo_The_Lip]

It would have been a true gem if he had thrown the man out at the plate.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

mazeroski has to be in the mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIjHo4xwyr4

Pirates fan here but I'd say not. CONTEXT SENSITIVE its a great play but to me greatest play has to stand on its own. Its great (or isn't) without context.

That knocks out HRs except maybe some out of the entire park shot (contender but not winner) because within broad categories the flight of a HR ball isn't recognizably unique. Some tower, some are liners, some are reasonably high and crawl over the fence but in the big picture there's nothing unique.

Pretty much the same with a pitch. Some are really pretty, some aren't, but a lot of the beauty of a successful pitch is the batters reaction to the ball which since we're counting this as a pitcher's play makes the batter not the one doing the great play.

Gotta be a fielding play. Probably some kind of infield play. An outfield catch alone wouldn't do it no matter how spectacular... unless he then threw someone out with a magnificent throw.

Back on the first thread on this by the flag waver, I posted Maz hitting into a triple play in the movie The Odd Couple because it wasn't a real play and neither was that OP's nomination. But maybe there's a slick triple play.

The one with Neil Walker and Jung Ho Kang doesn't make it because Kang hesitated and didn't realize what he had.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Especially when baseball told S. Florida a new park would allow the Marlins to keep their young stars.

Baseball spouts lies or BS all the time. Like how low wage jobs, 5 hours a day 81 days a year are great for the local economy. The players for the most don't spend their salaries in the teams home town. And ask for a government to build a park because of all the trickle down benefits.

Which is why I'd like the Rays to pack up and leave St Pete ASAP.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Pirates fan here but I'd say not. CONTEXT SENSITIVE its a great play but to me greatest play has to stand on its own. Its great (or isn't) without context.

That knocks out HRs except maybe some out of the entire park shot (contender but not winner) because within broad categories the flight of a HR ball isn't recognizably unique. Some tower, some are liners, some are reasonably high and crawl over the fence but in the big picture there's nothing unique.

Pretty much the same with a pitch. Some are really pretty, some aren't, but a lot of the beauty of a successful pitch is the batters reaction to the ball which since we're counting this as a pitcher's play makes the batter not the one doing the great play.

Gotta be a fielding play. Probably some kind of infield play. An outfield catch alone wouldn't do it no matter how spectacular... unless he then threw someone out with a magnificent throw.

Back on the first thread on this by the flag waver, I posted Maz hitting into a triple play in the movie The Odd Couple because it wasn't a real play and neither was that OP's nomination. But maybe there's a slick triple play.

The one with Neil Walker and Jung Ho Kang doesn't make it because Kang hesitated and didn't realize what he had.

I agree home runs are not great plays. They can make great moments depending on the situation.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Pirates fan here but I'd say not. CONTEXT SENSITIVE its a great play but to me greatest play has to stand on its own. Its great (or isn't) without context.

That knocks out HRs except maybe some out of the entire park shot (contender but not winner) because within broad categories the flight of a HR ball isn't recognizably unique. Some tower, some are liners, some are reasonably high and crawl over the fence but in the big picture there's nothing unique.

Pretty much the same with a pitch. Some are really pretty, some aren't, but a lot of the beauty of a successful pitch is the batters reaction to the ball which since we're counting this as a pitcher's play makes the batter not the one doing the great play.

Gotta be a fielding play. Probably some kind of infield play. An outfield catch alone wouldn't do it no matter how spectacular... unless he then threw someone out with a magnificent throw.

Back on the first thread on this by the flag waver, I posted Maz hitting into a triple play in the movie The Odd Couple because it wasn't a real play and neither was that OP's nomination. But maybe there's a slick triple play.

The one with Neil Walker and Jung Ho Kang doesn't make it because Kang hesitated and didn't realize what he had.

I hear you but come on - walk-off game 7 home run. :-) I mean really, find another hill to die on.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I hear you but come on - walk-off game 7 home run. :-) I mean really, find another hill to die on.

A great play is great on its own merits, not on its context. Put in context and you could argue for the pitch that created a pop up by a .220 hitter for the last out in a seventh game world series no hitter as the greatest.

[Westheim]

A homer can't be the greatest baseball play ever, because by definition the ball isn't even *in play*.

...

...unless it bounces off Jose Canseco's thick head and over the fence.

[USF]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...5&action=click

Buck Martinez, C - double play with a broken leg - Tor at Sea.

[Cobra Mgr]

You guys are putting too much thought into what "play" is.

[Syd Thrift]

Sure, a homerun is a play all by itself. I agree that they aren’t necessarily exciting. People can hit a ball off of a stick very far. We’ve known this for a while. Sometimes when the ball gets hit especially far (like Cecil Fielder’s HR over the roof at Tigers Stadium in 1990) or in a clutch situation (the Shot Heard Round the World) it can be a great play, sure, but by themselves they really aren’t.

[BMW]

This could be something that devolves into splitting hairs. But I have to agree. There are tremendous moments that aren't great plays. That's not downplaying a Gibson or Carter home run, these are literally life altering events for fans.

I cry every time I watch the end of game six Mets/Boston. Hell, I'm tearing up a little right now just typing about it!

A great play to me is something where it's easy to see the skill and awareness of a player who's put into an impossible, split-second situation and then astoundingly they just do everything 100% correct.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

You guys are putting too much thought into what "play" is.

You aren't thinking enough.

[Hageneezz]

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[Robby The Z]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0FCsWcuy4

Earliest play in my lifetime I can remember watching live from the 1970 World Series. And I distinctly remember at age 5 noticing something that Curt Gowdy did not on the telecast: Elrod Hendricks doesn't have the ball in his glove when he tags Bernie Carbo. Two replays and he never points it out.

This play had a bit of everything what with the umpire Ken Burkhart being knocked over,and as Sports Illustrated showed with their photos later: Carbo never touched the plate. Also does my heart good to see Sparky Anderson coming out and arguing the call.

Actually in the highlight film here: at 5:45, they use some still photos, player interviews and more replays to explain all of this - and yes, Curt Gowdy is the same guy doing the narration.
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhTXNUV-QQ

[bertha]

Originally Posted by Hrycaj

Maybe not the greatest but certainly one of the most iconic. Mays over the shoulder catch on a dead run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dK6zPbkFnE

Also this one. Nowhere near great but just fun to watch. Bo Jackson climbing the wall after a catch in Baltimore. He totally didn’t need to do it but I loved every second of it when he did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk3l_L-VJ3w

very nice video