Editing Player Ratings

RedHawk24 · 04-02-2020, 10:03 PM

Hi there!

I'm hoping some of you have some feedback for me or might be able to help me with this. My friend and I have been doing this thing for around five years where I create a batter, he creates a pitcher, and we simulate our careers, with one season taking a week. Typically, we spend a normal baseball season each year re-simulating a career. He's a Cubs fan, I'm a Red Sox fan, so we control those teams as well as our player's careers. We typically give ourselves decent ratings to start off with, while having the potential be maxed out.

In years past, I have not really had this problem, so I'm seeing if there might be any solutions.

When I start a new real-life league and create a fictional player and go to edit his ratings, for some reason the stats generated are really... off. I could give a pitcher 6 or 7 200 pitching ratings (max is 250, so we're not talking about a perfect pitcher) and I'm seeing 700 strikeout seasons, 0 walk seasons, 0 ground balls allowed seasons, and I'm trying to figure out which part that I am editing that is the problem. I see that other pitchers have better ratings in some pitches and have more reasonable numbers. In years past, I could give a batter or a pitcher all maxed out ratings and there would be no problems (albeit records in every category and incredibly long careers). Now, it seems that there is a limit to how high (and how many) ratings a player can truly have before it breaks the league.

When creating custom players in OOTP21, are there any strategies that any of you use to have an all-time great player while still making the numbers be realistic? Are there any rules of thumb you use? Or, are there more realistic limits that should be followed instead of the 250 rule that is allowed?

One more thing. I've tried taking the 20th best player in each editable ratings category and putting those numbers as a player. I did this for both a pitcher and a hitter. So, the player has the 20th best fastball, curveball, stamina, etc... and the batter has the 20th best power, stealing, etc. While the batter has more realistic numbers (around a .350 average, 35-40 home runs, which is where I'd like to see a created player), the pitcher, with so many pitches having decent ratings, is still overwhelming opponents.

Needless to say, any feedback that any of you can provide me would be greatly appreciated. I've been a big fan of creating players in this game but I would like to better understand the limits that OOTP21 has in order to have a better experience with this. I will provide any answers to questions you may have.

Thank you all!

jimmysthebestcop · 04-02-2020, 10:11 PM

Screenshots would help of the player you are copying and the new player you are creating.

RedHawk24 · 04-02-2020, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Screenshots would help of the player you are copying and the new player you are creating.

Will do. I'm downloading the update right now so as soon as that is done, I'll upload the screenshots. I'll even upload screenshots of a simulated season of both players.

Syd Thrift · 04-02-2020, 10:20 PM

A player with 6 or 7 200+ pitches is about as close to a perfect stuff pitcher as you could get. A top of the line starter will have maybe 4 pitches above 100, with maybe one approaching 200. One way, too, to think of the ratings is that they’re really 1-200 with an extra 50 points reserved for the rare, once in a decade players with singularly amazing abilities (like Barry Bonds’ plate discipline, or Ozzie Smith’s range).

greenOak · 04-02-2020, 10:24 PM

Even though the numbers go from 0-250, 200 is an elite elite rating. A rating of 150 generally corresponds to about a 70 on the 20-80 scale.

Also in the ratings editor is the "Resulting Stats (in a neutral modern Major League environment). There are also the "create current ratings based on stats" and "create potential ratings based on stats" associated with this. These will help you try to get the results you desire.

A 6-pitch pitcher, 98-100mph velo, 62 groundball%, with 200s across the board will have an expected ERA of 0.07, and a K-BB ratio of 484-16 per 264 innings.

Another you need to keep in mind is that the more pitches you have, the higher your overall stuff rating will be. For example, three 200 rated pitches yields an overall stuff rating of 218, while six 200 rated pitches yields an overall stuff rating of 295.

04-02-2020, 10:03 PM	#1
RedHawk24 Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 3	Editing Player Ratings Hi there! I'm hoping some of you have some feedback for me or might be able to help me with this. My friend and I have been doing this thing for around five years where I create a batter, he creates a pitcher, and we simulate our careers, with one season taking a week. Typically, we spend a normal baseball season each year re-simulating a career. He's a Cubs fan, I'm a Red Sox fan, so we control those teams as well as our player's careers. We typically give ourselves decent ratings to start off with, while having the potential be maxed out. In years past, I have not really had this problem, so I'm seeing if there might be any solutions. When I start a new real-life league and create a fictional player and go to edit his ratings, for some reason the stats generated are really... off. I could give a pitcher 6 or 7 200 pitching ratings (max is 250, so we're not talking about a perfect pitcher) and I'm seeing 700 strikeout seasons, 0 walk seasons, 0 ground balls allowed seasons, and I'm trying to figure out which part that I am editing that is the problem. I see that other pitchers have better ratings in some pitches and have more reasonable numbers. In years past, I could give a batter or a pitcher all maxed out ratings and there would be no problems (albeit records in every category and incredibly long careers). Now, it seems that there is a limit to how high (and how many) ratings a player can truly have before it breaks the league. When creating custom players in OOTP21, are there any strategies that any of you use to have an all-time great player while still making the numbers be realistic? Are there any rules of thumb you use? Or, are there more realistic limits that should be followed instead of the 250 rule that is allowed? One more thing. I've tried taking the 20th best player in each editable ratings category and putting those numbers as a player. I did this for both a pitcher and a hitter. So, the player has the 20th best fastball, curveball, stamina, etc... and the batter has the 20th best power, stealing, etc. While the batter has more realistic numbers (around a .350 average, 35-40 home runs, which is where I'd like to see a created player), the pitcher, with so many pitches having decent ratings, is still overwhelming opponents. Needless to say, any feedback that any of you can provide me would be greatly appreciated. I've been a big fan of creating players in this game but I would like to better understand the limits that OOTP21 has in order to have a better experience with this. I will provide any answers to questions you may have. Thank you all!

04-02-2020, 10:24 PM	#5
greenOak Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 203	Even though the numbers go from 0-250, 200 is an elite elite rating. A rating of 150 generally corresponds to about a 70 on the 20-80 scale. Also in the ratings editor is the "Resulting Stats (in a neutral modern Major League environment). There are also the "create current ratings based on stats" and "create potential ratings based on stats" associated with this. These will help you try to get the results you desire. A 6-pitch pitcher, 98-100mph velo, 62 groundball%, with 200s across the board will have an expected ERA of 0.07, and a K-BB ratio of 484-16 per 264 innings. Another you need to keep in mind is that the more pitches you have, the higher your overall stuff rating will be. For example, three 200 rated pitches yields an overall stuff rating of 218, while six 200 rated pitches yields an overall stuff rating of 295. Last edited by greenOak; 04-02-2020 at 10:30 PM.

04-02-2020, 10:11 PM	#2
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Screenshots would help of the player you are copying and the new player you are creating.