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Old 03-01-2018, 03:56 PM   #1
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After 15 versions. I’m giving historical a shot

I don’t know if it’s because as I get older, I’m getting filled with more nostalgia, but I all of a sudden have an itch to play the 1986 season as this was a season I most vividly remember as a 10 year old.

I have been a faithful fictional player up to now and I still play fictional. I just want to re-live that season (except the World Series) where I found my love for stats and the intricacies of the game.

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Old 03-01-2018, 03:59 PM   #2
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How are you going to do it? Are you thinking straight up historical transactions replay? GM a team?
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:25 PM   #3
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Good luck your comments have made me think that I may try a historical replay of the first season I remember well, 1967.

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The thought crossed my mind briefly the other night, for some strange reason. Sil', were you burning candles and chanting? In my case, I suddenly wanted to relive my Avalon Hill Statis-Pro days and conduct a draft with all of the real players and watch the season/s unfold like a friend of mine and I used to do. (Yes, I had a friend once.) Except then, it was all spiral notebooks and record-keeping after every game.
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re-live that season (except the World Series)

Amen to that...
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:52 PM   #6
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The thought crossed my mind briefly the other night, for some strange reason. Sil', were you burning candles and chanting? In my case, I suddenly wanted to relive my Avalon Hill Statis-Pro days and conduct a draft with all of the real players and watch the season/s unfold like a friend of mine and I used to do. (Yes, I had a friend once.) Except then, it was all spiral notebooks and record-keeping after every game.
I remember those days well with the notebooks that you would wear holes in pages with an eraser after updating the stats that you calculated by hand. It is the thing that started my love of math and still allows me to calculate things very quickly in my head.
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:58 PM   #7
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I started a game up and just watched each each of the 5 opening day games (of course using my 3d historical parks) I’m enjoying just seeing the names and the parks. Really bringing me back. Perhaps I may take my Red Sox and manage a bit. I notice that the historical seasons start with their beginning rosters so I may need to put hendu, spike owen, back in there.

I collected the 1986 topps cards and completed the set pack by pack. The only one I ever completed. Also another reason I loved that year. (Although I know it was based on 1985 teams). I have almost every player card memorized from sorting and re sorting those cards every night in my bed. From Paul Householder to Dave Sax. Great to see these names in the game.


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Old 03-01-2018, 04:59 PM   #8
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Incidentally, my little league baseball card that year had Don Baylor as my favorite player


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Funny. I also fondly have started leagues in 1986 as it is a season I remember vividly as a wide eyed 10 year old. But it sounds like I ran with a different squad then you did! I try to re-imagine the non stop party that surrounded my team. Until we won the whole thing! LGM!!!
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After 15 versions. I’m giving historical a shot

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Funny. I also fondly have started leagues in 1986 as it is a season I remember vividly as a wide eyed 10 year old. But it sounds like I ran with a different squad then you did! I try to re-imagine the non stop party that surrounded my team. Until we won the whole thing! LGM!!!


Haha. I guess I’ll have to respect that and live with the three we have won since


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Yes and the 30 years we have gone with being a complete cluster f of a franchise. This year is our I year! I say every year.
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A little roller up along first.....
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:20 PM   #13
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I don’t know if it’s because as I get older, I’m getting filled with more nostalgia, but I all of a sudden have an itch to play the 1986 season as this was a season I most vividly remember as a 10 year old.

I have been a faithful fictional player up to now and I still play fictional. I just want to re-live that season (except the World Series) where I found my love for stats and the intricacies of the game.

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I won the World Series with the '88 Red Sox, vs the Mets. It was glorious.

Although I almost blew game 7 trailing by two runs when I let Mike Boddicker hit for himself. Thankfully he got a base hit and reached second. I immediately pinch ran for him with Romine. The Sox then tied the game after Dwight Gooden fell apart.

I had Clemens come out of the bullpen on three days rest, and he promptly struck out the side in the 6th and 7th, then set down in order in the 8th and 9th. The Sox took the lead in the 8th when Todd Benzinger doubled home Mike Greenwell.

I always wondered how I would explain away the fact that I let Boddicker hit in the 6th trailing by two runs in the press conference.

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I won the World Series with the '88 Red Sox, vs the Mets. It was glorious.

Although I almost blew game 7 trailing by two runs when I let Mike Boddicker hit for himself. Thankfully he got a base hit and reached second. I immediately pinch ran for him with Romine. The Sox then tied the game after Dwight Gooden fell apart.

I had Clemens come out of the bullpen on three days rest, and he promptly struck out the side in the 6th and 7th, then set down in order in the 8th and 9th. The Sox took the lead in the 8th when Todd Benzinger doubled home Mike Greenwell.


I remember being at Fenway for Todd Benzinger’s ML debut


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That was in 1987, I believe.

I remember 1987 being the "coming out" year for Greenwell, Burks, and Benzinger. John Marzano came up that year too, when they finally got rid of that bum Mark Sullivan. Gedman was injured most of the year.
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I don’t know if it’s because as I get older, I’m getting filled with more nostalgia, but I all of a sudden have an itch to play the 1986 season as this was a season I most vividly remember as a 10 year old.

I feel exactly the same way. I'm thinking of taking 1997 out for a spin and no I wasn't a kid back then but it was the first time I saw my Astros play in person at Shea Stadium. But I'm also trying to decide how much to replay, completely historical including transactions or some more freedom to wheel and deal. I'm not sure.

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it took me ~2 years to be mildly happy wiht my fictional setups... that's my barrier.. my own neuroticism.

i'd have to flesh out which method for ratings i prefer and this or that... how to adjust eras as i want etc etc.. just thinking about it gives me anxiety.
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I feel like the real next evolution in historical is to use, for instance, the historical ballpark DB at Seamheads.com to provide full park factors (rather than just run-based park factor, which is what the game does now) and then calculate player stats based on that. I want to see what would happen if Ted Williams was traded for Joe DiMaggio, dammit.
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:56 PM   #19
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I don’t know if it’s because as I get older, I’m getting filled with more nostalgia, but I all of a sudden have an itch to play the 1986 season as this was a season I most vividly remember as a 10 year old.

I have been a faithful fictional player up to now and I still play fictional. I just want to re-live that season (except the World Series) where I found my love for stats and the intricacies of the game.

That is all


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My second favorite season now. I was 14 at the time and it was the second time seeing the Astros in the play offs. Not so sadly last year replaced that at as my favorite season. I wish I had been in the US to see all the games. My family was living in the middle East and I was would check the box scores in the paper every day. When we saw games they were often a few days old. My memory is not what it used to be but I think that was the year or maybe it was '85 when Rose faced Ryan and struck out three times that night. I was in a hospital in Dhahran after a concussion from a bicycle accident, going to fast tried to turn and hit a pole, and didn't remember reading about the outcome of the game a few days earlier when they were showing it on TV. Kind of glad I didn't it was an exciting game. Not sure we will ever see a 4000 K pitcher vs. a 4000 hit batter again.
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just wanted to say that I stuck my head in here after many years and so glad to see the old faces still posting.

19 looks awesome. I will preorder!

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