Joey Gallo season for the ages

[schreck]

So Joey Gallo turned into a beast in 2019. Playing a standard game, no changes to any settings or anything like that, but he just went off, way ahead of the rest of the league leaders in several stats as you can see here. Was pretty awesome, pretty big outlier, even for him from the seasons right before and after. Guess it goes to show what he could do if he actually makes regular contact.

[The Yurpman]

79 HRs!

[Bunktown Ballers]

The example right here of Joey Gallo makes my point of argument that this game has nothing to do with REAL LIFE. It's a baseball simulation for entertaining purposes only. All the stats, players, trends, too many walks, not enuff stolen base argument are settled with this example. OOTP is hands down the greatest baseball simulation ever produced & the only place where baseball dreams can come true.
Thanks OOTP team
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[Elendil]

^Probably tens of thousands of seasons have been simmed by forum participants in OOTP 18 already, and so it's not surprising that some people would find extreme outlier seasons. Run MLB another 1000 years, and I'd be shocked if someone didn't hit 79 HR.

[vicenteegardo]

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[Peregrine]

I haven't seen him hit 79 but in my league he has hit 60+ in several seasons now.

[Lukas Berger]

Gallo is so tough to rate, because he has some of the best power potential of any player ever if he could just make minimal contact. It's looking like he may not get there irl, but the potential is certainly there.

Even with his crummy contact skills in OOTP, the power can still shine through in some sims. In others he's MIA. That seems pretty reasonable to me, he's such an all or nothing guy in reality, it only makes sense he's that way in OOTP as well.

I have made a couple tweaks to lower his potentials a little, which should make him a bit less likely to go all Babe Ruth on MLB in the future.

[delv213]

I'd imagine his hitting potential in the game isn't at all that off from what it is in real life. He does hit in a good ballpark for example, and 80 grade raw power doesn't make an appearance everyday so 50-60 homers isn't inconceivable. 79 homers is pretty unreal though lol.


Imagine Bonds hit in Coors from 2001-2004 though? I want that sim!

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Gallo is so tough to rate, because he has some of the best power potential of any player ever if he could just make minimal contact. It's looking like he may not get there irl, but the potential is certainly there.

Even with his crummy contact skills in OOTP, the power can still shine through in some sims. In others he's MIA. That seems pretty reasonable to me, he's such an all or nothing guy in reality, it only makes sense he's that way in OOTP as well.

I have made a couple tweaks to lower his potentials a little, which should make him a bit less likely to go all Babe Ruth on MLB in the future.

Beautiful part about OOTP. I've seen Gallo the bum, Gallo the Stud, & Gallo never called up. Randomness is sweet. I would quit playing if same thing happened year in & year out.
Thanks For A Great Game
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[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Gallo is so tough to rate, because he has some of the best power potential of any player ever if he could just make minimal contact. It's looking like he may not get there irl, but the potential is certainly there.

Even with his crummy contact skills in OOTP, the power can still shine through in some sims. In others he's MIA. That seems pretty reasonable to me, he's such an all or nothing guy in reality, it only makes sense he's that way in OOTP as well.

I have made a couple tweaks to lower his potentials a little, which should make him a bit less likely to go all Babe Ruth on MLB in the future.

For me, he's simply a poor man's Dave Kingman. Nothing more, nothing less. He has way too many holes in his swing for big league pitchers to exploit. That said, IMO of course he'll never be the impact player some thought, and he certainly will never approach even 50 homers let alone 79.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

For me, he's simply a poor man's Dave Kingman. Nothing more, nothing less. He has way too many holes in his swing for big league pitchers to exploit. That said, IMO of course he'll never be the impact player some thought, and he certainly will never approach even 50 homers let alone 79.

I tend to agree. That's the most likely outcome for sure.

Sometimes guys can fool you though and I hate to be too dogmatic about him because I have a weird feeling he might be one of the guys who does.

[schreck]

It was pretty wild when I noticed around the all star break he had 50 homers already. Was waiting for him to get hit by a bus or something to see if the game would rein him in, or if he'd end up with 100. 79 was pretty wild though, not to mention having a SLG almost 130 points higher than the next guy, 2.3 more WAR, 33 more RBI (almost hit the record 190), and on and on. The more I look at it the more incredible it is, really loving this game. Really glad I finally gave it a shot this year (well sort of, really putting a damper on the rest of responsibilities )

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

For me, he's simply a poor man's Dave Kingman. Nothing more, nothing less. He has way too many holes in his swing for big league pitchers to exploit. That said, IMO of course he'll never be the impact player some thought, and he certainly will never approach even 50 homers let alone 79.

Gallo walks a *lot* more than Kingman ever did and appears to be a decent 3rd baseman / OFer where Kingman was a horrible LF who eventually had to move down to 1B/DH. Also, Gallo has yet to sent any women reporters a dead rat so there is that, too.

I mean, I see the comparison and to an *extent* I see how he's a "poor man's" Kingman because it looks like he strikes out too much to get his average to Kingman level, but I don't know, he's more Rob Deer to me (and potentially *far* more valuable than Kingman).

[Elendil]

Yeah, Rob Deer or Ken Phelps is what I was thinking - Deer probably the better comparison because of the fielding.

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Gallo walks a *lot* more than Kingman ever did and appears to be a decent 3rd baseman / OFer where Kingman was a horrible LF who eventually had to move down to 1B/DH. Also, Gallo has yet to sent any women reporters a dead rat so there is that, too.

I mean, I see the comparison and to an *extent* I see how he's a "poor man's" Kingman because it looks like he strikes out too much to get his average to Kingman level, but I don't know, he's more Rob Deer to me (and potentially *far* more valuable than Kingman).

Was gonna say Rob Deer lol, but you get the idea. Chris Carter, Evan Gattis, Adam Dunn, Chris Davis, Ken Phelps like the guy above mentions. Gallo does have the potential to surpass those type players because of his ability to defend a little, and walk, but to do that he needs to make more contact than he has so far. Back when he was in the minors, the prevailing thought was that Ryan Howard wouldn't hit big league pitching, he proved his doubters wrong, so you never know. Truthfully I hope I'm wrong and he becomes something special, but as of right now I don't see it, not at the MLB level.

[Padreman]

79 hr is the OP is telling the truth about not altering player or modifiers is over the top

[andjbock]

Who beat him in Slugging % the other two years?

[TuckerDuckson]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Gallo walks a *lot* more than Kingman ever did and appears to be a decent 3rd baseman / OFer where Kingman was a horrible LF who eventually had to move down to 1B/DH. Also, Gallo has yet to sent any women reporters a dead rat so there is that, too.

I mean, I see the comparison and to an *extent* I see how he's a "poor man's" Kingman because it looks like he strikes out too much to get his average to Kingman level, but I don't know, he's more Rob Deer to me (and potentially *far* more valuable than Kingman).

He's actually a pretty poor fielder with a career .931 fielding percentage as a 3B in 365 games in the minors. He also has a very "average" range factor of 2.77 per 9. and a 2.65 per game. So eventually he will need to be moved to DH or 1B (where he is midly more successful with the glove albeit a small sample size of 40 games.)

See the problem with Gallo is that he has a baseball sized hole in his swing. The man had a 35% strikeout rate in his entire minor league career. Including three seasons (out of five) where he put up more than 150 strike outs. Kingman by comparison had only 2 seasons out of 16 with more than 150 strikeouts. I know he's young and all, but he is literally whiffing a third of all plate appearances he gets and is striking out even more than the legendary strike out king. But seriously.. would you really want a guy coming up to bat who has a 35% chance of providing an out for your team?

Kingman, by comparison, had only a 24% strikeout chance (Again, albeit a VERY VERY large sample size, the man still struckout a heck ton) But still, basically a 1/4 chance of striking out with each plate appearance. Basically all Gallo's got above Kingman is a better glove right now, but thats about it. If anything, at this point in Gallo's career, his stats say that he is worse than Kingman will be in the strikeout department, which is scary.

[Syd Thrift]

Kingman also played in an era where there were quite a bit fewer strikeouts. In 1979, for example (just chosen because it was Kingman's best season), the league had a K rate of 5.1 compared to 8.3 now. That 24% 1970s era rate is actually pretty close to a 35% 2017 K rate relative to the league when you convert them.

The point about Gallo having stone hands at third is well noted, however.

[henry296]

In a test sim, I just had Gallo hit 60 in 2019.