Historical question

gdelmonico · 11-22-2016, 06:27 PM

Hi all,

Just began playing this game a couple of weeks ago and have been non stop addicted to it.

quick question, I'm starting a historical league in 1901 and was wondering why teams like the Baltimore Orioles and Detroit Tigers have teams like the Baltimore Canaries and Detroit Wolverines as part of there history. Is there anyway to change this so teams like the Orioles and Tigers have no history while keeping history for National League teams.

Thanks in advance, appreciate any info.

mitchkenn · 11-22-2016, 07:30 PM

Baltimore Orioles as we know them today, actually started in Milwaukee in 1901, moved to Saint Louis in 1902 (as Browns) before going to Baltimore.
There was a Baltimore Canaries 1872 -1874 as part of the National Association, not recognized as a major league by MLB. There was also a Baltimore Monumentals in 1884, that was ML. Neither of these became the current Orioles

Detroit had a ML team, Detroit Wolverines 1881 - 1888. But like the Baltimore team, it is not actually associated with the current Tigers.

(above info from MLB Teams and Baseball Encyclopedia | Baseball-Reference.com)

My guess is the game just is associating any early teams with a city pre-1901 as part of the city/team prehistory. But that's just a guess.

kq76 · 12-01-2016, 09:05 AM

I think the reason why is because OOTP has trouble with the often changing structure of early baseball history so they created a more constant fake history. It's kind of annoying if you want to replay baseball history as close to as what was reality as possible, but I appreciate why they went with what they did.

11-22-2016, 06:27 PM	#1
gdelmonico Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 13	Historical question Hi all, Just began playing this game a couple of weeks ago and have been non stop addicted to it. quick question, I'm starting a historical league in 1901 and was wondering why teams like the Baltimore Orioles and Detroit Tigers have teams like the Baltimore Canaries and Detroit Wolverines as part of there history. Is there anyway to change this so teams like the Orioles and Tigers have no history while keeping history for National League teams. Thanks in advance, appreciate any info.

11-22-2016, 07:30 PM	#2
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	Baltimore Orioles as we know them today, actually started in Milwaukee in 1901, moved to Saint Louis in 1902 (as Browns) before going to Baltimore. There was a Baltimore Canaries 1872 -1874 as part of the National Association, not recognized as a major league by MLB. There was also a Baltimore Monumentals in 1884, that was ML. Neither of these became the current Orioles Detroit had a ML team, Detroit Wolverines 1881 - 1888. But like the Baltimore team, it is not actually associated with the current Tigers. (above info from MLB Teams and Baseball Encyclopedia \| Baseball-Reference.com) My guess is the game just is associating any early teams with a city pre-1901 as part of the city/team prehistory. But that's just a guess. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

12-01-2016, 09:05 AM	#3
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,782	I think the reason why is because OOTP has trouble with the often changing structure of early baseball history so they created a more constant fake history. It's kind of annoying if you want to replay baseball history as close to as what was reality as possible, but I appreciate why they went with what they did. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)