OOTP developers keeping stat on us?

MrBojangles · 05-20-2016, 01:59 AM

I was wondering, since this is such a stats based game, would there be value in the OOTP developers receiving "stats" on how we play this game we enjoy so much?

By stats I guess I mean out keystrokes and/or someway to know that I've created a fictional league vs a 2016 MLB league. I imagine that this specific, data-based, information would somehow be useful to the developers. If nothing else they could see that "Feature A" is getting used extensively while "Feature B" not so much and make development decisions with this knowledge available to them.

I am (obviously?) no computer genius, but to me it seems that feedback given is subjective and sample size limited to those that respond. I played this game for years before joining the forum and I imagine there are many other players that don't join the forum - so there voices are silent.
In today's world of Big Brother I'm sure this ability either exist or could be implemented easily.

Also, would, we, the players want this?

I would.

The Wolf · 05-20-2016, 02:26 AM

They do this and have discussed some of the data with us. No biggie.

kq76 · 05-20-2016, 07:50 AM

Have you not read that popup when installing the game? Yes, it's in there, but it's opt-in only (or opt-out, I forget, it's one or the other).

For almost every other program I say no to those things, but to OOTP I say yes. I feel like I know and trust the OOTP people, but other software developers I don't know at all. I almost want to say no to OOTP too though because I test things with MLB leagues and don't use features enough that I like which skews the data to things that aren't indicative of what I want improved. But for most people, yeah, it's probably best to okay it.

RchW · 05-20-2016, 08:39 AM

Yeah I rarely allow data collection. OOTPD have earned that privilege.

Assos · 05-20-2016, 09:29 AM

Indeed, I do not care how much time they see I waste on this game

Just makes them make it better each year!

Bobble · 05-20-2016, 01:07 PM

So ... they're aware of my rampant cheating? Yikes!

NoOne · 05-20-2016, 01:07 PM

i hope they don't base too much on the forums (not the black-and-white stuff, if that must be said)... it's a very esoteric crowd with a narrow vision about what the game "should" be.

it's likely not a diverse crowd relative to all that play the game.. start to get group-think on some things, too. if i'm wrong, then it's a good resource for the more subjective choices about the future of the game.

i don't give info to any company/organization.. i paid enough already. i block the game in firewall, too. games that don't allow me to do so, i find a way to do so - lots of options out there even if you can't do it yourself. if it is mine i will do what i want with it regardless of an end-user agreement.

MrBojangles · 05-21-2016, 02:13 AM

I didn't realize that they already collect this data. Great to learn - except now they know that I might have used Commissioner mode to "fix" a player contract once in a while.

Déjà Bru · 05-21-2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

For almost every other program I say no to those things, but to OOTP I say yes. I feel like I know and trust the OOTP people, but other software developers I don't know at all.

I feel the same way. I mean, it's not as if I would definitely recognize Markus on the street - I might - and I am certain he would not rush over to me and say "Déjà Bruuuuu! How ARE you, buddy?"

But I do feel like I "know" these guys and in fact I want them to have my data because I want to register my style of play (historical fiction) and I hope it will help them continue to develop this fine game.

RchW · 05-21-2016, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBojangles

I didn't realize that they already collect this data. Great to learn - except now they know that I might have used Commissioner mode to "fix" a player contract once in a while.

They only collect with your permission.

05-20-2016, 01:59 AM	#1
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	OOTP developers keeping stat on us? I was wondering, since this is such a stats based game, would there be value in the OOTP developers receiving "stats" on how we play this game we enjoy so much? By stats I guess I mean out keystrokes and/or someway to know that I've created a fictional league vs a 2016 MLB league. I imagine that this specific, data-based, information would somehow be useful to the developers. If nothing else they could see that "Feature A" is getting used extensively while "Feature B" not so much and make development decisions with this knowledge available to them. I am (obviously?) no computer genius, but to me it seems that feedback given is subjective and sample size limited to those that respond. I played this game for years before joining the forum and I imagine there are many other players that don't join the forum - so there voices are silent. In today's world of Big Brother I'm sure this ability either exist or could be implemented easily. Also, would, we, the players want this? I would.

05-20-2016, 07:50 AM	#3
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,022	Have you not read that popup when installing the game? Yes, it's in there, but it's opt-in only (or opt-out, I forget, it's one or the other). For almost every other program I say no to those things, but to OOTP I say yes. I feel like I know and trust the OOTP people, but other software developers I don't know at all. I almost want to say no to OOTP too though because I test things with MLB leagues and don't use features enough that I like which skews the data to things that aren't indicative of what I want improved. But for most people, yeah, it's probably best to okay it. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

05-20-2016, 08:39 AM	#4
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Yeah I rarely allow data collection. OOTPD have earned that privilege. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-20-2016, 01:07 PM	#6
Bobble Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: High and outside Posts: 4,033	So ... they're aware of my rampant cheating? Yikes! __________________

05-20-2016, 01:07 PM	#7
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	i hope they don't base too much on the forums (not the black-and-white stuff, if that must be said)... it's a very esoteric crowd with a narrow vision about what the game "should" be. it's likely not a diverse crowd relative to all that play the game.. start to get group-think on some things, too. if i'm wrong, then it's a good resource for the more subjective choices about the future of the game. i don't give info to any company/organization.. i paid enough already. i block the game in firewall, too. games that don't allow me to do so, i find a way to do so - lots of options out there even if you can't do it yourself. if it is mine i will do what i want with it regardless of an end-user agreement. Last edited by NoOne; 05-20-2016 at 01:11 PM.

05-20-2016, 09:29 AM	#5
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,768	Indeed, I do not care how much time they see I waste on this game Just makes them make it better each year!

05-21-2016, 02:13 AM	#8
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	I didn't realize that they already collect this data. Great to learn - except now they know that I might have used Commissioner mode to "fix" a player contract once in a while.