At the risk of getting run out of town...

NexusBB · 08-08-2003, 04:46 PM

This isn't going to be popular, but I think it would be wicked cool if all the tremendous features and the realism of OOTP could have a graphics component... that is, I think it would be great if you could choose to play the games in an arcade-like fashion (only not silly tracer baseballs or any of that other arcade-like garbage).

The SIGNIFICANT difference (and the reason I don't play High Heat or MVP Baseball) is that they do not have the simulation, realistic feel, or challenges of OOTP. They are different animals but I think it would be a lot of fun to combine ther best features of a well-designed baseball sim with a graphics-driven game.

It would be a killer combination, but I imagine my opinion is probably not all that widely shared among most OOTPers....

Le Grande Orange · 08-08-2003, 04:56 PM

HERETIC!!!! Run him out of town!!!

Personally, I want more and better baseball simulation features (doubleheaders, adjustable roster sizes, independent minor leagues, and reserver clause era financials, please?) over any sort of arcade graphics.

To each their own...

eriqjaffe · 08-08-2003, 05:04 PM

I have to agree, to a point. I'd love a game that combined the graphics of MVP Baseball with the OOTP engine.

But I don't own MVP Baseball, and I do own OOTP.

I'd rather have the sim features than the graphics any day.

Makes me think...there are some Football Pro leagues out there that use FBPro as the sim engine, but create the "screen shot" pictures on the website using Madden.

--Eriq.

twins15 · 08-08-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by NexusBB
This isn't going to be popular, but I think it would be wicked cool if all the tremendous features and the realism of OOTP could have a graphics component... that is, I think it would be great if you could choose to play the games in an arcade-like fashion (only not silly tracer baseballs or any of that other arcade-like garbage).

It would be a killer combination, but I imagine my opinion is probably not all that widely shared among most OOTPers....

I think that would be absolutely awesome if they could combine the grpahics and arcade style games of a High Heat or MVP Baseball, but I'm not holding my breath. I doubt that will ever happen.

Now, get out of here. We don't want you here.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 08-08-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Le Grande Orange
Personally, I want more and better baseball simulation features (doubleheaders, adjustable roster sizes, independent minor leagues, and reserver clause era financials, please?) over any sort of arcade graphics.

Ditto.

Gastric ReFlux · 08-08-2003, 06:05 PM

I don't think anyone is going to run you out of town for this. I too would love to see OOTP with a graphical representation some day, except that I don't know if I can really surrender any more time to my already raging OOTP addiction.

kq76 · 08-08-2003, 09:06 PM

I'd love to even just have stickmen running around trying to catch a white speck on the screen that is the baseball. That probably wouldn't be too difficult to add, but I'm sure that even the pure stat lovers would get a real kick out of watching their game being played out by stickmen.

akw4572 · 08-11-2003, 12:16 AM

i'd like something so simple as the old microleague baseball i played on my commodore 64

draven085 · 08-11-2003, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by kq76
I'd love to even just have stickmen running around trying to catch a white speck on the screen that is the baseball. That probably wouldn't be too difficult to add, but I'm sure that even the pure stat lovers would get a real kick out of watching their game being played out by stickmen.

Check this out. I used to play this game as a kid. My first stat based game. I guess statheads start early

cooper_gd · 08-11-2003, 07:30 AM

By OOTP30, there could be sim action with digitally modeled player FX by ILM or Peter Jackson's group. Not to control, of course (no arcade!), just to represent the sim action.

Or how about OOTP-Centennial where perfect 3-D holographic representations of players are projected into your yard to play out the sim action. What addons there!

Of course there will be the mods in the OFX, or Olfactory Effects, where you can smell beer, peanuts, grass and, one of my favs, pipe smoke.

Man, I'd be afraid for my marriage.

Tib · 08-13-2003, 01:38 PM

Okay, you've prompted me to suggest something that's been in my head for a while. Since there seems to be an interest in a "graphics element", I suggest the following:

The POV of most stadium photos used for playing fields is from high up behind home plate. Isn't that where the GMs and owners sit? Why not have it appear as though you, the GM, are watching the game? Why not some simple baserunning animation? Why not have players (with proper uniform color, of course) run the bases? It would be like watching the game from the stands without silly arcade-style animation cheapening the experience.

It should be easy to code a simple running man to go from one base coordinate to another, and to another, and so on. Is this really necessary? No. But it would be nicer to look at than a name box.

sebastian0622 · 08-13-2003, 08:38 PM

stick people rule. And I agree about the graphics. One thing I really liked about FPS BBPro is that you had the ability to watch your team play. All players had the same swings, but at least the fast players ran faster and some players were white, dark, or somewhere in the middle. And there is nothing like watching a live homerun clear the fence. Watching words scroll doesn't compare.

ChipperStillRules10 · 08-13-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Le Grande Orange
HERETIC!!!! Run him out of town!!!

Personally, I want more and better baseball simulation features (doubleheaders, adjustable roster sizes, independent minor leagues, and reserver clause era financials, please?) over any sort of arcade graphics.

To each their own...

I agree to this and I would like to see more players retire earlier than 38-42 maybe like 25 I know career ending injuries are sort of this but maybe a A player just giving up at age 24-26.

Steve Kuffrey · 08-13-2003, 09:01 PM

Don't hold your breath, been talked about, debated, etc, etc, etc.....talk of "another game" have been mentioned but that would be YEARS down the road.

Long_Long_Name · 08-13-2003, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by twins15
Now, get out of here. We don't want you here.

Look who's talking

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Skipaway · 08-14-2003, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
Don't hold your breath, been talked about, debated, etc, etc, etc.....talk of "another game" have been mentioned but that would be YEARS down the road.

Kind of curious, if some major gaming company approached and asked to buy the OOTP engine for their baseball game's managing part, with them writing the action parts themselves. Would OOTP do it? Like what happened to Baseball Mogul and Microsoft some time ago?

That way we might even have the game in a year.

Tib · 08-14-2003, 02:40 PM

Steve is right, of course. There are more important issues to address than animated stick men running in a circle. But I'd still like to see player figures in the field and on the bases.

Long_Long_Name · 08-14-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tib
But I'd still like to see player figures in the field and on the bases.

A rectangle with a name in it IS a figure

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I see what you mean, though.

Gastric ReFlux · 08-14-2003, 04:47 PM

When this gets put in, any chance we'll see figures like 36-24-36?

eriqjaffe · 08-14-2003, 05:08 PM

That'll be available with the more advanced "Personal" section engine in Manager Mode 2.

--Eriq.

08-08-2003, 04:46 PM	#1
NexusBB Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, Virginia Posts: 3	At the risk of getting run out of town... This isn't going to be popular, but I think it would be wicked cool if all the tremendous features and the realism of OOTP could have a graphics component... that is, I think it would be great if you could choose to play the games in an arcade-like fashion (only not silly tracer baseballs or any of that other arcade-like garbage). The SIGNIFICANT difference (and the reason I don't play High Heat or MVP Baseball) is that they do not have the simulation, realistic feel, or challenges of OOTP. They are different animals but I think it would be a lot of fun to combine ther best features of a well-designed baseball sim with a graphics-driven game. It would be a killer combination, but I imagine my opinion is probably not all that widely shared among most OOTPers.... __________________ "Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball, the rules and realities of the game." -attrib. Jacques Barzun (b. 1907), U.S. scholar

08-08-2003, 05:04 PM	#3
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	I have to agree, to a point. I'd love a game that combined the graphics of MVP Baseball with the OOTP engine. But I don't own MVP Baseball, and I do own OOTP. I'd rather have the sim features than the graphics any day. Makes me think...there are some Football Pro leagues out there that use FBPro as the sim engine, but create the "screen shot" pictures on the website using Madden. --Eriq. __________________

08-08-2003, 09:06 PM	#7
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,031	I'd love to even just have stickmen running around trying to catch a white speck on the screen that is the baseball. That probably wouldn't be too difficult to add, but I'm sure that even the pure stat lovers would get a real kick out of watching their game being played out by stickmen. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

08-11-2003, 07:30 AM	#10
cooper_gd All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PopBunker.net Posts: 1,011	By OOTP30, there could be sim action with digitally modeled player FX by ILM or Peter Jackson's group. Not to control, of course (no arcade!), just to represent the sim action. Or how about OOTP-Centennial where perfect 3-D holographic representations of players are projected into your yard to play out the sim action. What addons there! Of course there will be the mods in the OFX, or Olfactory Effects, where you can smell beer, peanuts, grass and, one of my favs, pipe smoke. Man, I'd be afraid for my marriage. __________________

08-13-2003, 01:38 PM	#11
Tib All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Paso Robles, CA Posts: 995	Okay, you've prompted me to suggest something that's been in my head for a while. Since there seems to be an interest in a "graphics element", I suggest the following: The POV of most stadium photos used for playing fields is from high up behind home plate. Isn't that where the GMs and owners sit? Why not have it appear as though you, the GM, are watching the game? Why not some simple baserunning animation? Why not have players (with proper uniform color, of course) run the bases? It would be like watching the game from the stands without silly arcade-style animation cheapening the experience. It should be easy to code a simple running man to go from one base coordinate to another, and to another, and so on. Is this really necessary? No. But it would be nicer to look at than a name box. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...ad.php?t=64219

08-08-2003, 04:56 PM	#2
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,642	HERETIC!!!! Run him out of town!!! Personally, I want more and better baseball simulation features (doubleheaders, adjustable roster sizes, independent minor leagues, and reserver clause era financials, please?) over any sort of arcade graphics. To each their own...

08-08-2003, 06:05 PM	#6
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I don't think anyone is going to run you out of town for this. I too would love to see OOTP with a graphical representation some day, except that I don't know if I can really surrender any more time to my already raging OOTP addiction.

08-11-2003, 12:16 AM	#8
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	i'd like something so simple as the old microleague baseball i played on my commodore 64

08-13-2003, 08:38 PM	#12
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	stick people rule. And I agree about the graphics. One thing I really liked about FPS BBPro is that you had the ability to watch your team play. All players had the same swings, but at least the fast players ran faster and some players were white, dark, or somewhere in the middle. And there is nothing like watching a live homerun clear the fence. Watching words scroll doesn't compare.

08-13-2003, 09:01 PM	#14
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Don't hold your breath, been talked about, debated, etc, etc, etc.....talk of "another game" have been mentioned but that would be YEARS down the road. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

08-14-2003, 02:40 PM	#17
Tib All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Paso Robles, CA Posts: 995	Steve is right, of course. There are more important issues to address than animated stick men running in a circle. But I'd still like to see player figures in the field and on the bases. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...ad.php?t=64219

08-14-2003, 04:47 PM	#19
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	When this gets put in, any chance we'll see figures like 36-24-36?

08-14-2003, 05:08 PM	#20
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	That'll be available with the more advanced "Personal" section engine in Manager Mode 2. --Eriq. __________________