MASSIVE problem I always have this time of the year with OOTP

Syd Thrift · 02-25-2015, 09:53 AM

Every year at about this time there are a bunch of cool new features that are touted and every year, although I get an itch to play some fake baseball because of the beginning of real baseball, I find myself wanting to do things that only the next version of OOTP can deliver. I fear that there is only one fix for this issue: release the game today in a bug-free, fully ready-to-go state. I do not feel like this is asking too much because of [insert reason why it would make sense to demand a 100% ready release a month and a half before the deadline here].

So please, Markus, get on it. "Burn the midnight oil" or whatever it is you burn at midnight in Germany (sauerkraut, perhaps?).

colourmebrad · 02-25-2015, 11:21 AM

I'm still playing OOTP 12 and am foolish enough to read about the new versions (tight budget with other priorities, otherwise I'd just buy the new versions) which is a recipe for pain and suffering.

Gai1997 · 02-25-2015, 11:30 AM

I feel the same way. Haven't really played OOTP besides online leagues since the game was announced. I say work on mapping out some fictional leagues you want to do. That's what I'm doing. Gives you something to look forward to and work on in the mean time.

Orcin · 02-25-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Every year at about this time there are a bunch of cool new features that are touted and every year, although I get an itch to play some fake baseball because of the beginning of real baseball, I find myself wanting to do things that only the next version of OOTP can deliver. I fear that there is only one fix for this issue: release the game today in a bug-free, fully ready-to-go state. I do not feel like this is asking too much because of [insert reason why it would make sense to demand a 100% ready release a month and a half before the deadline here].

This seems like a completely reasonable request to me.

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

So please, Markus, get on it. "Burn the midnight oil" or whatever it is you burn at midnight in Germany (sauerkraut, perhaps?).

I think what they burn at midnight might prevent an early release rather than expediting it.

Syd Thrift · 02-25-2015, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

I think what they burn at midnight might prevent an early release rather than expediting it.

You're thinking of the Netherlands. Germany is to the south.

frangipard · 02-25-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gai1997

I say work on mapping out some fictional leagues you want to do.

Did that last week. Now what?

Westheim · 02-25-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by colourmebrad

I'm still playing OOTP 12 and am foolish enough to read about the new versions (tight budget with other priorities, otherwise I'd just buy the new versions) which is a recipe for pain and suffering.

Odd, how other than my OOTP12 team's budget, which is close to zero, my personal budget is comfortable enough to buy whatever game I want.

I just don't want any.

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

You're thinking of the Netherlands. Germany is to the south.

East, actually.

TomVeal · 02-25-2015, 03:40 PM

We all know that OOTP ∞, including complete ratings, statistics, photographs, logos and uniforms for every player, team and league in every country from Little League on up, as well as super-intelligent AI, 100 percent accurate rules for every year in baseball history, one billion story lines and four dimensional graphics, was completed years ago but is being released in tiny increments year-by-year to maximize revenue.

Doc_Brown · 02-25-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

We all know that OOTP ∞, including complete ratings, statistics, photographs, logos and uniforms for every player, team and league in every country from Little League on up, as well as super-intelligent AI, 100 percent accurate rules for every year in baseball history, one billion story lines and four dimensional graphics, was completed years ago but is being released in tiny increments year-by-year to maximize revenue.

Shhhhh no one else is meant to know. I'll just say that OOTP20 will knock your socks off!

Assos · 02-25-2015, 04:48 PM

Aside the fact that no piece of computer software has ever come out perfect. The fact that everyone's computer have different set ups and different hardware, it is almost impossible for a piece of software this complex to be perfect right out of the box. I know your pain of having a flawed league and I am sure the Beta testers try to do the best job that they can but can not run every chance.
Even 15, which is final, I found at odd ball bug with historical random players and starting a league the year before an expansion draft. It is something we have all learned to live with.
I am not a computer programmer, nor do I pretend to be one on television, but I have a friend who is and I am his major Beta tester. He sends me a link and says break it, but I never find all his flaws. It is just a way of life, software is written by humans, it will always be written that way (if a computer wrote software, its program would have been written by humans) so we will have to live with the imperfect world in which we live.

Vechi8 · 02-25-2015, 06:56 PM

I developed a software program for restaurants.. inventory, prices, access to kitchen from server etc. Anyone that has ever created software knows that it is never finished constant updates and fixes. My friends at Oracle go absolutely postal when someone asks if a program may still be in beta.. They scream software is always beta and never complete! I am shocked on how limited the updates are with this game, props to the developers

24Rocks · 02-25-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vechi8

I developed a software program for restaurants.. inventory, prices, access to kitchen from server etc. Anyone that has ever created software knows that it is never finished constant updates and fixes. My friends at Oracle go absolutely postal when someone asks if a program may still be in beta.. They scream software is always beta and never complete! I am shocked on how limited the updates are with this game, props to the developers

OMG I hate Oracle I have to use it at work and UGHH tell him to fix it by yesterday gosh man

so many problems.

I usually get all hot and bothered when new versions come around but my fic league has not been played at all really since the new year so I am not in release it now mode but when that road to release comes in my e-mail things may change.

Syd Thrift · 02-25-2015, 08:13 PM

I'm a programmer myself who just so happens to be working on a large, seemingly unending project at my current job, so I'm getting a kick...

Markus plx make Out Of The Keyboard Programming next k thx

02-25-2015, 11:21 AM	#2
colourmebrad Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 107	I'm still playing OOTP 12 and am foolish enough to read about the new versions (tight budget with other priorities, otherwise I'd just buy the new versions) which is a recipe for pain and suffering.

02-25-2015, 11:30 AM	#3
Gai1997 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 370	I feel the same way. Haven't really played OOTP besides online leagues since the game was announced. I say work on mapping out some fictional leagues you want to do. That's what I'm doing. Gives you something to look forward to and work on in the mean time.

02-25-2015, 03:40 PM	#8
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,242	We all know that OOTP ∞, including complete ratings, statistics, photographs, logos and uniforms for every player, team and league in every country from Little League on up, as well as super-intelligent AI, 100 percent accurate rules for every year in baseball history, one billion story lines and four dimensional graphics, was completed years ago but is being released in tiny increments year-by-year to maximize revenue.

02-25-2015, 04:48 PM	#10
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	Aside the fact that no piece of computer software has ever come out perfect. The fact that everyone's computer have different set ups and different hardware, it is almost impossible for a piece of software this complex to be perfect right out of the box. I know your pain of having a flawed league and I am sure the Beta testers try to do the best job that they can but can not run every chance. Even 15, which is final, I found at odd ball bug with historical random players and starting a league the year before an expansion draft. It is something we have all learned to live with. I am not a computer programmer, nor do I pretend to be one on television, but I have a friend who is and I am his major Beta tester. He sends me a link and says break it, but I never find all his flaws. It is just a way of life, software is written by humans, it will always be written that way (if a computer wrote software, its program would have been written by humans) so we will have to live with the imperfect world in which we live.

02-25-2015, 06:56 PM	#11
Vechi8 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3	I developed a software program for restaurants.. inventory, prices, access to kitchen from server etc. Anyone that has ever created software knows that it is never finished constant updates and fixes. My friends at Oracle go absolutely postal when someone asks if a program may still be in beta.. They scream software is always beta and never complete! I am shocked on how limited the updates are with this game, props to the developers