Aroid, Yankees and Ruth

AirmenSmith · 02-09-2015, 06:26 PM

So I was reading on the bleacher report about how Aroid wants bonds HR record. I thought about this and was wondering if anyone sees this playing out.

What I am thinking will happen is that if Aroid gets close to Ruth's record, the Yankees will release him. I also don't seeing any other team picking him up either so he will never pass Ruth.

Just my thought. Curious to see if anyone thinks this will happen. If "The Boss" was still with us then I would be sure this would happen.

mirrf · 02-09-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

So I was reading on the bleacher report about how Aroid wants bonds HR record. I thought about this and was wondering if anyone sees this playing out.

What I am thinking will happen is that if Aroid gets close to Ruth's record, the Yankees will release him. I also don't seeing any other team picking him up either so he will never pass Ruth.

Just my thought. Curious to see if anyone thinks this will happen. If "The Boss" was still with us then I would be sure this would happen.

I'm sure ARod wants the record, sure. Will he reach it, no. Not likely at all. His last full season in the majors he hit 18. -And that was a couple seasons ago.

If ARod was approaching Ruth's 714 and he were still productive, the Yankees would definitely keep them. If he comes close to Bond's record, he must have been productive and they'd keep him...

Steve509 · 02-09-2015, 07:18 PM

I don't think they will. If they haven't released him outright after everything that has gone on with Aroid, I doubt they now. It's most likely related to the amount of money he is still owed through is entire contract, and I doubt they will want to eat 20+ mil salary for him not to play(how many years does he have left on his contract?).

On a side note, while I love seeing the Yankees get beat up over all the bad contracts they have, I do think they(and other teams as well) should be able to void contracts for those who test positive for PED's(namely steroids and hgh). If any of us were caught taking drugs or any illegal substance I doubt our employers would have any issues terminating us at their company. Not sure why sports players get the benefit of guaranteed contracts(excluding NFL).

MorseMoose · 02-09-2015, 07:24 PM

He is not going to sniff Ruth's record, let alone Bonds'.

But, let's say he does...the Yankees would never be allowed to release him. They PA would be on them quicker than you can say cracker jacks. So, again...no.

Let's say they do release him, if he's close to Ruth's number, he most certainly will be picked up by a team as that means he's hit more than 50 homeruns after the age of 37 (not super weird, but he's only hit 71 since 2010). If he's close to Bonds' record, that means he's hit 110 after the age of 37.

I just don't see any of that happening.

RchW · 02-09-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve509

I don't think they will. If they haven't released him outright after everything that has gone on with Aroid, I doubt they now. It's most likely related to the amount of money he is still owed through is entire contract, and I doubt they will want to eat 20+ mil salary for him not to play(how many years does he have left on his contract?).

On a side note, while I love seeing the Yankees get beat up over all the bad contracts they have, I do think they(and other teams as well) should be able to void contracts for those who test positive for PED's(namely steroids and hgh). If any of us were caught taking drugs or any illegal substance I doubt our employers would have any issues terminating us at their company. Not sure why sports players get the benefit of guaranteed contracts(excluding NFL).

I like the fact that they are stuck with paying the money. Nothing will convince me that the teams didn't know who was juicing when these contracts were signed.

Steve509 · 02-09-2015, 07:31 PM

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I like the fact that they are stuck with paying the money. Nothing will convince me that the teams didn't know who was juicing when these contracts were signed.

I am really torn on it, because I enjoy seeing teams stuck with those large contracts given out. On the other hand, I hate seeing known cheaters(multiple times at that), still getting paid handsomely based on their juiced up stats of the past. Frankly, I just wish they had banned Aroid permanently.

knightdreamer2k · 02-09-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mirrf

I'm sure ARod wants the record, sure. Will he reach it, no. Not likely at all. His last full season in the majors he hit 18. -And that was a couple seasons ago.

If ARod was approaching Ruth's 714 and he were still productive, the Yankees would definitely keep them. If he comes close to Bond's record, he must have been productive and they'd keep him...

This!^^ Yankees would definitely keep him if he could do that, and as a Yankee fan that would mean he was very productive.
He won't though cause we are in the post-roid era and nothing suggest he has that skill level to reach the mark. If the guy hits .250 and hits 10 HR he exceeded my expectations.

rudel.dietrich · 02-09-2015, 09:34 PM

He will get to 600 and there will be a huge uproar when he gets his bonus. But another 120+ is out of the question I think.

I am hearing good things about him in that he is in excellent shape for his age. But so little playing time combined with his age and combined with the Yankees front office hating him will ensure he has a minimal impact.

If I had to guess, I would say he has about 30 more HR in him for the rest of his career however long that might be.

I think the Yankees truly want to see what they can get out of him this year and if he plays terribly the they will bury him on the depth chart of just cut him.

There is no possible way they get 60 million worth of value out of him, but with the state of their team, they want to try and at least see if something is still there.

AirmenSmith · 02-09-2015, 10:12 PM

I do think he will get close to Ruth because he feels like he should be the best. One way or another he will do what he has too, so he can get the extra money and records.

One thing I don't agree with is that the Yanks can't release him because of the PA. Players get released all the time during contracts, they still get their money so nothing wrong is happening.

Although I just wish the Yankees would release him so he can fade away. If only MLB was like OOTP

MorseMoose · 02-10-2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

He will get to 600 and there will be a huge uproar when he gets his bonus. But another 120+ is out of the question I think.

I am hearing good things about him in that he is in excellent shape for his age. But so little playing time combined with his age and combined with the Yankees front office hating him will ensure he has a minimal impact.

If I had to guess, I would say he has about 30 more HR in him for the rest of his career however long that might be.

I think the Yankees truly want to see what they can get out of him this year and if he plays terribly the they will bury him on the depth chart of just cut him.

There is no possible way they get 60 million worth of value out of him, but with the state of their team, they want to try and at least see if something is still there.

Isn't he at like 650? He'd only need 110 to get to Bonds, 60 or so to get to Ruth.

rudel.dietrich · 02-10-2015, 12:53 AM

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Isn't he at like 650? He'd only need 110 to get to Bonds, 60 or so to get to Ruth.

Yes, your right he needs six to get to 660. I misread the news story where he needs six more to get his bonus.

knightdreamer2k · 02-10-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Isn't he at like 650? He'd only need 110 to get to Bonds, 60 or so to get to Ruth.

Yankees have him for 2 more years. I don't think he will sniff 60 with them at his current output. Many other players retire and leave money on the table if they are no longer effective, but not arod.
I guess I'm expecting him to hit like around .200 with 5 hrs and ride the bench. Oh yeah and I wouldn't release him because I don't believe he is enough of a distraction (yet) to affect the team.

jdono927 · 02-24-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Isn't he at like 650? He'd only need 110 to get to Bonds, 60 or so to get to Ruth.

He's at 654. 6 behind Willie Mays and 60 behind Ruth

ThatSeventiesGuy · 02-24-2015, 03:01 PM

He'll probably pass Mays, but no way they'll let him sniff Ruth-Aaron-Bonds territory. I think MLB would put the kibosh on it if the Yankees don't...unless he returns to 30-homer-a-season levels, which I seriously doubt.

swoboda · 02-24-2015, 03:55 PM

he will never get to 714

CommishJoe · 02-25-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

He will get to 600 and there will be a huge uproar when he gets his bonus. But another 120+ is out of the question I think.

I am hearing good things about him in that he is in excellent shape for his age. But so little playing time combined with his age and combined with the Yankees front office hating him will ensure he has a minimal impact.

If I had to guess, I would say he has about 30 more HR in him for the rest of his career however long that might be.

I think the Yankees truly want to see what they can get out of him this year and if he plays terribly the they will bury him on the depth chart of just cut him.

There is no possible way they get 60 million worth of value out of him, but with the state of their team, they want to try and at least see if something is still there.

Basically, I agree with everything in this post. A-Rod won't even come close to Ruth not to mention Bonds. However, if he's productive, they'll find a spot for him. They need offense pretty badly and they would want SOME return on the $60m he's still owed. If he's garbage, they'll either cut him or bury him on the depth chart. As it is, he's projected to be the right handed DH.

BaseballMan · 02-25-2015, 12:33 PM

I dont think he will get there. I think he may be washed up already. Still if he can still play i dont wanna see a team release him to keep him from breaking a record. That seems a bit cheap imo.

Syd Thrift · 02-25-2015, 01:49 PM

I don't have a great deal of sympathy for the Yankees here as the CBA specifically forbids talent-related bonuses - you can only assign bonuses based on PAs or innings pitched or awards won - and the team went around that by signing a separate deal with A-Rod through their PR department. That they now can't get it voided because A-Rod violated a baseball-related good conduct clause but not the actual law makes me cry big fat tears for them.

I think there's a strong chance that A-Rod hits the Willie Mays milestone but he'll likely go no further than that. As far as that goes, I'd be interested to see just how ironclad they made that PR contract... does it specifically state that he has to hit #660 as a Yankee to receive that bonus? Because I think it would be hilarious if he got cut, signed with the Marlins, hit like .180 in 150 at bats with 7 homeruns, and the Yanks still had to pay out.

02-09-2015, 06:26 PM	#1
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	Aroid, Yankees and Ruth So I was reading on the bleacher report about how Aroid wants bonds HR record. I thought about this and was wondering if anyone sees this playing out. What I am thinking will happen is that if Aroid gets close to Ruth's record, the Yankees will release him. I also don't seeing any other team picking him up either so he will never pass Ruth. Just my thought. Curious to see if anyone thinks this will happen. If "The Boss" was still with us then I would be sure this would happen. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

02-09-2015, 10:12 PM	#9
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	I do think he will get close to Ruth because he feels like he should be the best. One way or another he will do what he has too, so he can get the extra money and records. One thing I don't agree with is that the Yanks can't release him because of the PA. Players get released all the time during contracts, they still get their money so nothing wrong is happening. Although I just wish the Yankees would release him so he can fade away. If only MLB was like OOTP __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

02-24-2015, 03:01 PM	#14
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	He'll probably pass Mays, but no way they'll let him sniff Ruth-Aaron-Bonds territory. I think MLB would put the kibosh on it if the Yankees don't...unless he returns to 30-homer-a-season levels, which I seriously doubt. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

02-24-2015, 03:55 PM	#15
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	he will never get to 714 __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

02-09-2015, 07:18 PM	#3
Steve509 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 121	I don't think they will. If they haven't released him outright after everything that has gone on with Aroid, I doubt they now. It's most likely related to the amount of money he is still owed through is entire contract, and I doubt they will want to eat 20+ mil salary for him not to play(how many years does he have left on his contract?). On a side note, while I love seeing the Yankees get beat up over all the bad contracts they have, I do think they(and other teams as well) should be able to void contracts for those who test positive for PED's(namely steroids and hgh). If any of us were caught taking drugs or any illegal substance I doubt our employers would have any issues terminating us at their company. Not sure why sports players get the benefit of guaranteed contracts(excluding NFL).

02-09-2015, 07:24 PM	#4
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	He is not going to sniff Ruth's record, let alone Bonds'. But, let's say he does...the Yankees would never be allowed to release him. They PA would be on them quicker than you can say cracker jacks. So, again...no. Let's say they do release him, if he's close to Ruth's number, he most certainly will be picked up by a team as that means he's hit more than 50 homeruns after the age of 37 (not super weird, but he's only hit 71 since 2010). If he's close to Bonds' record, that means he's hit 110 after the age of 37. I just don't see any of that happening.

02-09-2015, 09:34 PM	#8
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	He will get to 600 and there will be a huge uproar when he gets his bonus. But another 120+ is out of the question I think. I am hearing good things about him in that he is in excellent shape for his age. But so little playing time combined with his age and combined with the Yankees front office hating him will ensure he has a minimal impact. If I had to guess, I would say he has about 30 more HR in him for the rest of his career however long that might be. I think the Yankees truly want to see what they can get out of him this year and if he plays terribly the they will bury him on the depth chart of just cut him. There is no possible way they get 60 million worth of value out of him, but with the state of their team, they want to try and at least see if something is still there.

02-25-2015, 12:33 PM	#17
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,532	I dont think he will get there. I think he may be washed up already. Still if he can still play i dont wanna see a team release him to keep him from breaking a record. That seems a bit cheap imo.