So... guess the new OOTP 16 features!

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Actually, Tommy John surgery would be part of the injury database, right?

That's what I was thinking too.

I wonder how difficult it would be to have era specific injury files in OOTP?

[rpriske]

I don't understand people who take offense to other people being opposed to certain suggestions.

This made up "anti crusade" is nonsense. There are just times when people disagree with you. That's it.

I have been on both sides of it. I wanted the 'unwritten rules of baseball' included for a more accurate play experience. (A player stealing a base when up by 10 runs in the 9th? Uh no.) Some people loudly disagreed.

They were wrong, of course.

It is perfectly reasonable to say you disagree with something that would change the game a great deal. Like, for example, that big animation push that went on last year. Should people saying 'everybody wants 3-D graphics' just stand? Wouldn't that give inaccurate information to the designers?


Basically, if someone disagrees with you, get over it. OTOH, it is possible to disagree with someone without acting like an ass - something that certain of our more hirsute brethren haven't figured out as of yet.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Actually, Tommy John surgery would be part of the injury database, right?

Actually, yeah, I think it is. Era specific injury databases would be cool. Somehow merging the whole injury system with the storyline system might make things work more fluidly, but that would almost certainly be a nightmare to code.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by rpriske

I don't understand people who take offense to other people being opposed to certain suggestions.

This made up "anti crusade" is nonsense. There are just times when people disagree with you. That's it.

I have been on both sides of it. I wanted the 'unwritten rules of baseball' included for a more accurate play experience. (A player stealing a base when up by 10 runs in the 9th? Uh no.) Some people loudly disagreed.

They were wrong, of course.

It is perfectly reasonable to say you disagree with something that would change the game a great deal. Like, for example, that big animation push that went on last year. Should people saying 'everybody wants 3-D graphics' just stand? Wouldn't that give inaccurate information to the designers?


Basically, if someone disagrees with you, get over it. OTOH, it is possible to disagree with someone without acting like an ass - something that certain of our more hirsute brethren haven't figured out as of yet.

Well said. Nothing wrong with discussion when it is done without being as ass.

[David Watts]

I'm hoping 16 will finally be the version we can start with a 1 subleague setup and later expand to a 2 subleague setup without messing up the league's history.

[chucksabr]

EDIT: Just read Brad's post, so I withdraw the question.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Well said. Nothing wrong with discussion when it is done without being as ass.

[chucksabr]

Originally Posted by rpriske

I don't understand people who take offense to other people being opposed to certain suggestions.

This made up "anti crusade" is nonsense. There are just times when people disagree with you. That's it.

I have been on both sides of it. I wanted the 'unwritten rules of baseball' included for a more accurate play experience. (A player stealing a base when up by 10 runs in the 9th? Uh no.) Some people loudly disagreed.

They were wrong, of course.

It is perfectly reasonable to say you disagree with something that would change the game a great deal. Like, for example, that big animation push that went on last year. Should people saying 'everybody wants 3-D graphics' just stand? Wouldn't that give inaccurate information to the designers?

Basically, if someone disagrees with you, get over it. OTOH, it is possible to disagree with someone without acting like an ass - something that certain of our more hirsute brethren haven't figured out as of yet.

I agree with you 100% that it is reasonable to oppose a change someone suggests that would change the game for everybody. Applying "unwritten rules" without the ability to change them would affect everybody, so it's fair to oppose it when it comes up. (BTW, you probably already know that you can implement your unwritten rule about stealing while 10 runs up in the 9th within strategy options already.)

But the implementation of promotion/relegation would be optional, a way to run your league only if you want to. That's the key. If you don't want to, you never have to see it, or even know it's available. It wouldn't affect you at all. So if a feature doesn't affect you, then why deprive a substantial subset of people who want that feature, just because you would never use it yourself? (Just so you know, I don't mean you, rpriske, here, I mean it as a hypothetical "you".)

I understand that many people oppose the idea of Markus and his team spending even one minute on p/r because "to model that would be difficult and demand way too much time coding", or something along those lines. But unless those posters do the actual coding for this specific game, they have no idea how much time or effort it would take. Only Markus and his team know, and he has explicitly, in this very thread, left open the possibility that p/r will be implemented into the game at some point "if [he] can figure out a quick and dirty way to do it". And with all due respect to all the coders in this thread, his opinion is the only one that counts for anything regarding the difficulty of coding for OOTP games.

[Poweshow]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Then you should've said that instead of claiming OOTP was exactly the same for the past 10 years. I apologize for not reading between the lines correctly.

That's the beautiful thing about my posting, there is no reading between the lines required, just common sense.

[Bowtie]

Uniform numbers for all managers and coaches? That is too long overdue.

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by Bowtie

Uniform numbers for all managers and coaches? That is too long overdue.

And a full coaching staff. Or at least add the base coaches

[BMD]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

We'll announce the new version on Friday, January 23rd. And this will be the biggest announcement in the history of the series, I can tell you that much.

Is this really the huge announcement we have all been waiting for!? MLB will recognize time spent playing OOTP 16 as work experience on our résumés when applying for front office jobs! Woo hoo!

Okay, if not that, maybe ITP being included as a play option?

[HerbertMcHoover]

It's been stated already and in this thread, but along with base coaches, how about an assistant hitting/pitch coach and a bullpen coach?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by HerbertMcHoover

It's been stated already and in this thread, but along with base coaches, how about an assistant hitting/pitch coach and a bullpen coach?

Must keep control......

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by RchW

Must keep control......

Lol!! I thought of just you when that was posted.

I wouldn't mind base coaches. They are a part of baseball. A good coach could definitely get you runs on the bases. Conversely, a bad coach will cost you runs.

[Padreman]

Base coaches are a must

[metsguy234]

Originally Posted by Padreman

Base coaches are a must

What effect would a first base coach have on players? I can see a third base coach, maybe.

[Padreman]

Several firstbase coaches are also base running coaches. So baserunning skills. 3rd base coaches can help you score more or hinder you depending how good he is

[Padreman]

Royals' Rusty Kuntz is baseball's best base-running coach | The Kansas City Star

[BIG17EASY]

I think we need to see more tangible effects from the current coaches, an easier system for hiring/promoting and the ability to hire coaches away from other teams before we start adding more coaching positions.

Just my .